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2005-03-18 01:30:03 AM
Submitter is a girl?

Would you like to see my Drizzt Do-urden book collection?
 
2005-03-18 01:30:27 AM
Can you cut food with a tube after I eat you?
 
2005-03-18 01:32:50 AM
Yes.
 
2005-03-18 01:35:23 AM
Adamantium cannot be penetrated by any other solid object.

However, a light-saber is not exactly solid. It is a grouping of accelerated particles. It doesn't so much cut as it simultaneously separates and overheats the component molecules of any object it comes into contact with.

So the answer is yes.
 
2005-03-18 01:40:49 AM
Yes, for all the reasons as spoken by my geeky overlord GWS.
 
2005-03-18 01:40:52 AM
GWShenlong05: So the answer is yes.

Nerd alert! How sexy!!
 
2005-03-18 01:42:26 AM
MelLuvsDMB: Nerd alert! How sexy!!

*cough*

I mean...

What kinda lame question is this?! F*ck off, nerd-boys! I wanna see some titties! Where tha sexy TFettes at?
 
2005-03-18 01:45:15 AM
Owned!
 
2005-03-18 01:45:21 AM
MelLuvsDMB: Nerd alert! How sexy!!

Hey there, good looking.

*quickly puts on deodorant*

Want to go out tonight?
 
2005-03-18 01:47:13 AM
*quickly puts on deodorant*

Very smooth. I almost didn't even notice.
 
2005-03-18 01:47:38 AM
GWShenlong05:

It doesn't so much cut as it simultaneously separates and overheats the component molecules of any object it comes into contact with.

You make it sound like a light saber could heat through any material enough hot enough to melt it, we all know this is not the case.
 
2005-03-18 01:48:18 AM
SurgeonDryHog: Very smooth. I almost didn't even notice.

Do you like Elton John?
 
2005-03-18 01:51:06 AM
Custom5:

You make it sound like a light saber could heat through any material enough hot enough to melt it, we all know this is not the case.

I remember reading that if a light saber were to fall end-over-end, it would continue falling through an entire planet, unaffected by friction. Now I know that this might be an exaggeration, but I'm sure that a light saber would melt through nearly any solid object.

Where have you found evidence to the contrary?
 
2005-03-18 01:55:27 AM
GWShenlong05: Where have you found evidence to the contrary?

There are weapons used in the Star Wars universe to protect things from the light saber's parallel plasma energy beam, one of which was shown in the Clone Wars cartoon by a robohenchman. I'm sure they developed something in the movies but I don't recall every seeing anything that a light saber couldn't eventually destroy.
 
2005-03-18 01:59:00 AM
oh

my

god
 
2005-03-18 01:59:27 AM
Custom5:

but I don't recall every seeing anything that a light saber couldn't eventually destroy.

Dude, a lightsaber couldn't destroy Elvis. The King is forever, in fact Elvis is in every single one of us. He's everywhere...he's everybody, he's still the king.

Man, oh man, what I want you to see, is that the big "E" is inside of you and me.
 
2005-03-18 01:59:49 AM
Custom5:

I'm sure they developed something in the movies but I don't recall every seeing anything that a light saber couldn't eventually destroy.

Ah, gotcha. I'm only going by the movies, here. I haven't gotten into the books or other spin-off properties. There are limits to my geekiness.
 
2005-03-18 02:00:17 AM
Cortosis ores, energy shields and Mandalorian iron are the names I found for such things on the wikipedia page just now.
 
2005-03-18 02:01:38 AM
Could either cut through Superman?
 
2005-03-18 02:02:22 AM
GWShenlong05:

Adamantium cannot be penetrated by any other solid object.

However, a light-saber is not exactly solid. It is a grouping of accelerated particles. It doesn't so much cut as it simultaneously separates and overheats the component molecules of any object it comes into contact with.

So the answer is yes.


Wow.

Just... wow.
 
2005-03-18 02:03:53 AM
ThatDevGuy: Wow.

Just... wow.


AAAAAAAACK!

I did not post these comments!

(Waves hand)

This is not the TotalFarker you are looking for.
 
2005-03-18 02:04:08 AM


A lightsaber would so pwn Adam Ant! That goody two shoes...
 
2005-03-18 02:04:28 AM
Wow, I thought this thread had died....

GWShenlong05: Where have you found evidence to the contrary?

Oh yeah baby!! That sexy talk is making me soooooo hot!

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Dimensiation: *quickly puts on deodorant*

Make sure you get those deodorant balls caught in your armpit hair. I love those! *purrrr*
 
2005-03-18 02:05:07 AM
GWShenlong05:

I did not post these comments!

(Waves hand)

This is not the TotalFarker you are looking for.


You are so toast. I'm ruining your cred from now on.
 
2005-03-18 02:05:12 AM
never odd or even: Could either cut through Superman?

I thought we were already off this "cutting" topic..

But I would have to say it could probably hurt him and with kryptonite near-by it could kill him quite easily.
 
2005-03-18 02:08:32 AM
Dude maybe if Superman was weakened by the kryptonite first, then you could kill him with the light saber.
 
2005-03-18 02:08:39 AM
never odd or even: Could either cut through Superman?

Well that would depend on the source of Superman's matter-deflecting power, as evidenced by his ability to withstand bullets. This, however, can be accomplished by any sufficiently hard material or by an energy field.

If the bullets actually touch Superman's chest, then yes, he could be killed by both an adamantium bullet (and/or claw) or a lightsabre. He is constructed of matter like the rest of us, but merely has superhuman abilities due to being an alien. If adamantium cannot be destroyed by any known matter, then Superman's molecules, however dense, would not deflect the bullet.

If Superman projects some sort of thin energy field around his body which prevents them from touching his chest, the adamantium would still be deflected but the light sabre might slice through it. That would depend on the particle interactions between the light sabre and the energy field in question. Most known energy fields would simply redirect the light sabre's particles around Superman. For instance, you would see the sabre touch him and then spread out behind his back. The wielder might actually be affected by some of those particles deflected back at him.

/also a nerd
 
2005-03-18 02:09:53 AM
Lightsaber is one word, and it would own that adamantium in a matter of seconds, if not instantanious.

Superman could logically deflect the lightsaber blade for a matter of minutes by way of his heat vision.

/also a Geek girl.
 
2005-03-18 02:11:16 AM
tonkin:

Dude maybe if Superman was weakened by the kryptonite first, then you could kill him with the light saber.

An interesting point. That Superman's lack of strength as a result of kryptonite poisoning means he can be killed or restrained by mundane objects would imply that the case is, in fact, a small consciously-maintained energy field around his body. This is similar to the Green Lantern.

Ok I'm done. Seriously. Don't laugh at me.
 
2005-03-18 02:11:28 AM
NEEEERRRRRRDDDDDDSSSS!
 
2005-03-18 02:11:30 AM
ThatDevGuy:

If Superman projects some sort of thin energy field around his body which prevents them from touching his chest, the adamantium would still be deflected but the light sabre might slice through it. That would depend on the particle interactions between the light sabre and the energy field in question

NERRRRRRD!!

Thanks for taking the heat off of me
 
2005-03-18 02:11:43 AM
ThatDevGuy:

If adamantium cannot be destroyed by any known matter, then Superman's molecules, however dense, would not deflect the bullet.

He could deflect it, doesn't mean he's going to destroy it.
The speed of the adamantium bullet would actually have to reach a speed much, much faster than that of a normal bullet to actually have any real effect.
 
2005-03-18 02:13:37 AM
Custom5:

The speed of the adamantium bullet would actually have to reach a speed much, much faster than that of a normal bullet to actually have any real effect.

Right. Adamantium is supposed to be incredibly light, right? Kinetic energy and all.

Maybe an adamantium rail gun. That would imply that adamantium could be manipulated by magnetic forces, though, which I'm pretty sure Magneto has used on Wolverine in one of the two movies. Rail guns work by magnetically accelerating the projectile in an incredibly short period of time. Thus, an adamantium rail gun would theoretically be possible.
 
2005-03-18 02:14:33 AM
I need to leave this thread. This nerdy talk is too much for one woman to take, especially when it's coming from GWShenlong05, ThatDevGuy, and Dimensiation!

"No, no, it'sa too sexy!!"

*off to find Mr. Buzzy*
 
2005-03-18 02:15:17 AM
Aw, Mel, we were just getting started! I even turned it to electromagnetism for you!
 
2005-03-18 02:16:33 AM
ThatDevGuy: I even turned it to electromagnetism for you!

Oh.My.God! I think that just sent me over the edge.....
 
2005-03-18 02:16:34 AM
MelLuvsDMB: *off to find Mr. Buzzy*

Mwahahahahahaha! My plans are coming to fruitition.
 
2005-03-18 02:18:28 AM
Unubtainium. Nothing can affect Unubtainium.

/RPG nerd.
 
2005-03-18 02:19:23 AM
MelLuvsDMB: Oh.My.God! I think that just sent me over the edge.....

Hey, you never IMed me. I had to do SOMETHING to seduce you...

(Psst ... I'll electrify your body using Coulomb's law!)
 
2005-03-18 02:22:18 AM
ThatDevGuy: (Psst ... I'll electrify your body using Coulomb's law!)

Holy shiat, I don't even know what that means, but I LIKE it!

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AFeastOfMaggots: Unubtainium. Nothing can affect Unubtainium.

/RPG nerd.


You boys netter watch out! Looks like another hotty just entered the room!
 
2005-03-18 02:22:35 AM
MelLuvsDMB: *off to find Mr. Buzzy*

(Snicker)

ThatDevGuy:

Aw, Mel, we were just getting started! I even turned it to electromagnetism for you!

Now that I think about it, I still think that Superman could turn away an adamantium bullet. Even fired by a rail gun.

Think about it this way. The component molecules of two objects do not need to be destroyed upon collision of said objects. The molecular composition would have to be warped if one of those objects loses its form, but a loss of form (e.g. the bullet becoming "mushroomed) is not necessarily going to happen in a collision between that bullet and Superman's skin.

Now, if the bullet hit his skin and both the bullet and his skin kept their shape, energy would have to be released by the collision somehow. In a collision between two objects, those energy by-products are sound, light and heat.

So, with your theoretical rail gun situation, the bullet's collision could cause both a momentary flash of intense heat and light, followed by the mother of all Ka-POWs. But Superman's skin wouldn't necessarily be punctured.
 
2005-03-18 02:22:56 AM
ThatDevGuy: Thus, an adamantium rail gun would theoretically be possible.

But would it puncture Superman, what I mean is his speed would allow him to dodge it, if that's not the case then his speed would also probably be the answer as to why it would not puncture him, wouldn't his particles be accelerated or something that would help deflect the bullet?

And if the bullet did manage to cut through him, he'd heal faster than the fastest healing object of healer, so Adamantium is probably out for killing him, unless you've got a hell of a lot to waste.
 
2005-03-18 02:24:46 AM
GWShenlong05:

So, with your theoretical rail gun situation, the bullet's collision could cause both a momentary flash of intense heat and light, followed by the mother of all Ka-POWs. But Superman's skin wouldn't necessarily be punctured.

I did not see this before posting what I just did, I'm feeling very Bizarro smart right now.
 
2005-03-18 02:25:08 AM
What about upsidaisium? That's some anti-gravity material from Rocky and Bullwinkle. Not only am a nerd, but I watch old cartoons.

GWShenlong05:

So, with your theoretical rail gun situation, the bullet's collision could cause both a momentary flash of intense heat and light, followed by the mother of all Ka-POWs. But Superman's skin wouldn't necessarily be punctured.

Very true. We'd have to hone the point of the hypothetical bullet to the size of a Superman skin cell, so it would work its way between components of his flesh, and work out the aerodynamics of the rest so that the air resistance did not deform the bullet in transit.
 
2005-03-18 02:26:14 AM
Custom5:

I did not see this before posting what I just did, I'm feeling very Bizarro smart right now.

Isn't "Bizarro" from Superman to begin with?
 
2005-03-18 02:27:54 AM
ThatDevGuy:

work out the aerodynamics of the rest so that the air resistance did not deform the bullet in transit

That layer of enery isn't looking so bad now.
 
2005-03-18 02:28:48 AM
ThatDevGuy: Isn't "Bizarro" from Superman to begin with?

Yes, I was stating that I felt stupid.
 
2005-03-18 02:29:06 AM
Plus, wouldn't they have had to cut the adamantium somehow in order to shape it or whatnot to fit on Wolverines bones? If they had the tech in the US army to do that, well, then, I think a Lightsaber would cut right through it.
 
2005-03-18 02:29:27 AM
Dimensiation: NEEEERRRRRRDDDDDDSSSS!

It needed to be restated.
 
2005-03-18 02:29:51 AM
mrjared:

Plus, wouldn't they have had to cut the adamantium somehow in order to shape it or whatnot to fit on Wolverines bones? If they had the tech in the US army to do that, well, then, I think a Lightsaber would cut right through it.

They form it while it's still liquid. When it cools and hardens, it cannot be damaged in any way.
 
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