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2005-03-16 11:16:18 PM  
How come there's only been like 3 posts regarding this quote?

"I sat down and I ate three Mr. Goodbars because I was so angry," she said. "You can't lump parents in one group."

How many groups of parents are there? Those who eat Mr. Goodbars and those who don't?

I've never heard a more off-the-wall quote ever. It has nothing to do with the subject matter. It almost sounds like advertising. I didn't know Mr. Goodbars were that popular let alone popular enough to quote by name to a reporter.
 
2005-03-16 11:16:44 PM  
They refuse to come to school and refuse to explain why, they're assumed to have dropped out. If that happens, they're listed as ineligible for welfare. Simple.

But they aren't ineligible for welfare. So, yes, I do have a point. Attacking the typo was just gravy.
 
2005-03-16 11:17:27 PM  
Let's see, the government spends decades telling parents,"Don't worry about your kids education, we'll worry about it for you. We'll decide exactly what they need to be taught, when they need to be taught it, and everything else. Just sit back and leave it to us." So the American people, being sheep, do as their told and don't worry about it at all. And then the government complains that parents don't care about their kids education!

When you're the source of the problem, your ranting about the problem is a little silly.
 
2005-03-16 11:18:15 PM  
so what ur kid is sick? call the farking school when your son needs to be absent! you need to call in sick for your work, you do the same to school.... farking stupid parents...
 
2005-03-16 11:21:45 PM  
You silly americans and your tyranic laws. Send the parent in jail 1 year for 10 days of absenteism, that's just great. So when are the executions for kids who miss out for 15 days? I think you guys can find other ways to promote education. No child left behind hm?
 
2005-03-16 11:25:05 PM  
"We have only just begun," Nichols said. "We mean this. I don't know how else to say it. You're going to send your child to school."

Because of statements like this, I am hating the stupidity of the people and government of this world. Not all people mind you, but plenty, and ALL government is corrupt somewhere in it's life. Provide "free" schooling and MAKE the children show up, even if it means throwing the parents in jail? And just exactly how are you going to enforce this? Oh yeah, the government can do whatever it wants to whomever it feels like doing it to. Stop trying to dictate and do your damn job, US Federal State and Local Governments.

/pointless rant over
//still pissed though
 
2005-03-16 11:25:22 PM  
This article made me so angry, I spanked it to pictures of Masuimi Max.

[image from polezilla.com too old to be available]

I demand restitution. And a cigarette.
 
2005-03-16 11:27:26 PM  
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2005-03-16 11:28:34 PM  
I'm amazed at how many people think the person in the article didn't call their kid in sick. Dealing with administration in my school district would have been like dealing with the INS, except worse. The school district is way more likely to be the farkups...
 
2005-03-16 11:28:37 PM  
woodstock827

so what ur kid is sick? call the farking school when your son needs to be absent! you need to call in sick for your work, you do the same to school.... farking stupid parents...

FARK you man. Around here, just "calling in sick" is NOT good enough for excused absences in school. ALL absences are unexcused unless there is PROOF, definative proof that yor child was sick or otherwise unable to attend. Being the doc at home for a bad cold or whatever is not good enough here. It's not all the parents fault. It's not all the kids fault. The schools and systems of government resposible are to blame as well.
 
2005-03-16 11:29:53 PM  
soggykeyboard

Provide "free" schooling and MAKE the children show up, even if it means throwing the parents in jail? And just exactly how are you going to enforce this?

That is what is known as "free, compulsory education." It's actually considered one of the defining aspects of the industrialized first world.

But go ahead, you tell that durned gummint to get offa yer back.

/and pick up a box of Mr. Goodbars while you're at it
 
2005-03-16 11:30:37 PM  
Oh and by the way...someone else referred to it but lets make it clear: The main reason the school district cares is because they don't get money for absent student. Doesn't matter if they're absent due to cancer/hit-by-a-bus or just truant. So I wouldn't put it past them to threaten any kids parents, even a sick kid.

/bitterly hates public school administrators
 
2005-03-16 11:33:39 PM  
maracle
/bitterly hates public school administrators

Run for school board and change it.
 
2005-03-16 11:35:26 PM  
Obscure one of the defining aspects of the industrialized first world

Meh. In pointing out your point you have lost sight of mine.
 
2005-03-16 11:35:57 PM  
Let me go out on a limb here...the grandson has asthma because mom smoked while she was pregnant and somebody in the house still does. How this is the school's fault, I'm not sure. Poor little bastard.

And the three Mr. Goodbars...I imagine that was to be breakfast lunch & dinner for the aforementioned poor little bastard.

Cut off the welfare & SSI checks until these kids are in school, that will get their devoted parents' attention.
 
2005-03-16 11:37:16 PM  
But go ahead, you tell that durned gummint to get offa yer back

I Already did. It's called private school -- and I'd sell my house and live out of my car if that's what it would take to make the tuition payments because I will never let my children set foot in a public school in this country.

/Oldest is in pre-kindergarten. Is already learning more advanced stuff then our friend's kid who's in public 1st grade. Plus I don't have to put up with this sort of BS from school officials.
 
2005-03-16 11:38:01 PM  
Welcome to my home town. No, really...
 
2005-03-16 11:38:52 PM  
Cato
I'd sell my house and live out of my car if that's what it would take to make the tuition payments because I will never let my children set foot in a public school in this country.

Is it that bad down there? Public schools (at least when I was that age) are pretty good up here in MN. I went to school with guys that went to Harvard, MIT, Caltech, etc etc...
 
2005-03-16 11:39:25 PM  
They don't care if your kids learn anything. They want warm bodies. The schools here get money from the state based on the average number of students attending. The state does some fuzzy math based on full and half days. The administrators don't care about the education, just the warm bodies.
 
2005-03-16 11:39:45 PM  
SoggyKeyboard

I completely agree with you here.

A good number of these kids skip school without their parents knowledge, and even if a machine calls their house to warn of their child's absence that day (at least at my High School, that's what happens) they are able to intercept it to hide the evidence. My point is that many of these parents don't have a clue, and yes they should do something but when you start throwing parents in jail and arresting them then I think it's gone a little too far (many of these parents DO care about their children's education, but are simply too busy with their job or jobs or some other LEGITAMATE excuse). I proposed in a similar thread, a voucher school system (my Sociology teacher's idea actually). The students who show up, have good attendance, and aren't troublemakers are rewarded with more flexibility in the classroom or elsewhere in/on school. I say after High School, quit forcing the children to go, and yes I do realize that this can cause a burden by having them grow up on welfare (god forbid we still have it) and costing money; but you just have to start somewhere. Hopefully those who decided to drop out will realize their mistake and eventually graduate or receive some sort of school related Diploma.
 
2005-03-16 11:41:16 PM  
Whilst reading this thread, why not enjoy a delicious [image from theplug.net too old to be available]?

/Go on. Take a trip down the Hershey Highway.
 
2005-03-16 11:41:31 PM  
"I sat down and I ate three Mr. Goodbars because I was so angry,"

If by ate Mr. Goodbars she meant sitting in her bathtub, slitting her wrists, and cotemplating cutting off her nuts, then I also eat Mr. Goodbars when I'm depressed. :)
 
2005-03-16 11:43:15 PM  
Cato, et al:

So whats the problem then? School your kid, or put them in school, but being forced to go to school when its obvious somebody ain't gunna help them learn is just one of those things the government SHOULD look after. I pay taxes so that the government can do a whole range of things I cannot do myself that I believe with help contruct a healthier society. I don't want kids being raised by bums who won't ensure their kids receive a minimal amount of schooling; its not fair to the kids.
 
2005-03-16 11:48:25 PM  
"I sat down and I ate three Mr. Goodbars because I was so angry," she said.

[image from zmin.freeblog.hu too old to be available]

"Pain leads to anger. Anger leads to Mr. Goodbars. Mr. Goodbars lead to obesity. Fat you will be."
 
2005-03-16 11:50:51 PM  
First, the laws that are being enforced here are just that... laws. If they aren't enforced, there is no point. Second, many of these delinquent parents are the same ones who with throw a hissyfit of major proportions when their little truant flunks his classes.

Last, most states have become aggressive about enforcing school attendance laws because of specific incidents. One example of this is the Becca Bill in Washington state. A little girl was kidnapped, and no one realized she was gone until many days had passed. The school was not keeping accurate records or following attendance laws, and in doing so, screwed up a way that Becca's disappearance might have been caught earlier. The lax enforcement was then found to be happening in many districts, and with the advent of mandated testing, authorities decided to actually start enforcing the existing laws. School districts in most states have to have a certain percentage of students attending, otherwise it makes it that much harder to not be labelled a failing school.

And maracle, school pursue this because most teachers want kids to pass. They don't attend, they don't pass usually. This has been borne out in my classes this year. I know; how dare we actually follow the law and force these kids (and their parents) to be accountable. Newsflash: every district I have been in allows absences to be excused for legitimate reasons. Those parents would not have been called if they had made sure the absences were excused.

And to each of you who say how fascist this is, etc, do something about it. Get on your school board, talk to your elected officials, whatever. Realize that a lot of this is coming from both state and federal government, and that with No Child Left Behind, it probably won't change. One reason for truancy hearings is to make parents of chronically truant kids give a damn. And where I've been, it has worked fairly well. Only way parents get thrown in lockup is if they fail to show without notice, or don't follow the judge's ruling.

/loves how everyone is an 'expert' on educational issues
//wonders how many have actually seen a truancy hearing
 
2005-03-16 11:52:18 PM  
SoggyKeyboard:

Provide "free" schooling and MAKE the children show up, even if it means throwing the parents in jail? And just exactly how are you going to enforce this? Oh yeah, the government can do whatever it wants to whomever it feels like doing it to.

Though he makes it a little stridently, the man's got a point. Some of us don't often think about just how much power our state has over us. Whether you think it's a good thing or something that's harmful to people, it's still something you need to really consider.
 
2005-03-16 11:52:32 PM  
I am sure this is a combination of both the parents and the local schools worried about their federal funding. Take out the federal funding and leave it to the locals and you will get 10x the concern for wasted time and resources for absentia and parents who are too ignorant to realize their kids will never make it if they don't achieve. Make only a 8th grade education mandatory and anything above voluntary and rid them of any social benefits. Some kids don't want to learn and it is just the way it is. Let them work or stay home and be supported and babysat by their folks. Take that money and put it into more policing and prisons because we need them to babysit instead. There are no good solutions right now for crappy parenting and the crappy educational systems except to get back to the basics and realize not everyone is suited for book learning and some people will always be the underclass. Someone needs to dig the ditches and clean toilets, they don't need a degree for that.
 
2005-03-16 11:56:36 PM  
Cato: Let's see, the government spends decades telling parents,"Don't worry about your kids education, we'll worry about it for you. We'll decide exactly what they need to be taught, when they need to be taught it, and everything else. Just sit back and leave it to us." So the American people, being sheep, do as their told and don't worry about it at all. And then the government complains that parents don't care about their kids education!

Hmmm... My kids each went to 12 years of public schools, and I never experienced anything like that. Their schools encouraged parental involvement. I went to every parent-teacher day and every event they were involved in.

This article just demonstrates that a small number of parents don't care about their kids education. They figure it's the job of the government to educate and discipline their kids. It's not bad schools, it's bad parents.
 
2005-03-17 12:01:56 AM  
SoggyKeyboard

Meh. In pointing out your point you have lost sight of mine.

Well, you did end your post with this disclaimer:

/pointless rant over

And you also sounded so darned surprise that the government could 1) provide FREE education and 2) MAKE kids attend school.

Actually, in 1948, UNESCO asserted that "free compulsory elementary school education" was a basic human right. But somehow, I doubt you're a big fan of the U.N.

But basically, the notion of free, compulsory education is an historical outcome of both the 18th century Enlightenment and 19th century Industrial Age, and thus springs from 2 notions
1) literacy should be available to all people regardless of class or income
2) people with a minimum of education make better workers.

/This message brought to you by the letter Q and the number 6
 
2005-03-17 12:02:17 AM  
Kell Hound: yes.

Lets see, the schools get paid per child attending. Yea, I'm sure they want them all there.
BUT:
Parents are in charge of there children until they are 16 (or whatever), period. I hate those parents that defend the bad actions of their kids... come on.
 
2005-03-17 12:10:36 AM  
Open up forced labor camps for the little delinquent darlings.

Doing some hard labor will make their useless asses love school in a jiffy.


/You know it's right, it's just that with the pussification of America, it'll never happen.
 
2005-03-17 12:14:25 AM  
Damn, sounds like the case of "'Sullivan County Department of Education' vs 'NCubed'". Btw, I live in Tennessee as well. I absolutely hate going to school every single day. Why would I want to be forced to attend a place were ignorance is held in esteem? My grades went down the crapper when I got in high school. I still took the ACT and made the highest score in my school (pop. 1000+).
 
2005-03-17 12:14:40 AM  
Spamzilla: What's the opposite of irony?

Obvious? Obviousness? Is that a word?
 
2005-03-17 12:17:14 AM  
Nice hyphen usage, submitter.
 
2005-03-17 12:18:51 AM  
Maybe the kids and parents just suffer from low self-esteem and just need a hug and some group therapy.

/America has been neutered by social stigma and condemnation of masculinity. We are a society of victims and blame those who have achieved for our own inadequacies.
 
2005-03-17 12:25:34 AM  
Why is it a problem that these underchieving little douches don't want to go to school? Somebody has to work at Taco Bell, and it sure as fark won't be me.

/earned 42K last year
//will add another 15% on top of that this year
///"Spell 'guacamole' and I'll give ya a tip, kiddo."
 
2005-03-17 12:36:21 AM  
ANOTHER REASON why some people shouldn't procreate. Don't make them if you can't raise them right.
 
2005-03-17 12:37:35 AM  
What, is the Obvious tag broked or something?

R'ing TFA...I don't know, but does putting the parent in jail for a year for their child's truancy seem...I dunno...COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to anyone else? If anything, teens who hate their parents but aren't legal yet can just miss a tenth of their Freshman year, and they have nothing to worry about next year, when they're the cool older kid in the Freshman class.

But, then again, this IS Tennessee...
 
2005-03-17 12:41:00 AM  
Tisk! Tisk!

But then, to quote Judge Smales(sp?) "The world needs ditch diggers too!"
 
2005-03-17 12:42:53 AM  
Poo_Fight...

Schmales? (not sure)
 
2005-03-17 12:46:08 AM  
There's only one solution. The truants and their parents will have to killed. Either that or turned into a subserviant slave class with no voting priviledges whilst their on welfare. Or soylent green.

/Just kidding
/or am I?
 
2005-03-17 12:46:18 AM  
When I was a junior in high school there were some days I just didn't feel like going in, so I would tell my parents I was sick and sleep in. Still, I had to bring in a note from home the next day, so one time my mother simply scrawled "My son didn't want to go to school yesterday so he didn't" on an index card and signed it. The school nurse laughed her ass off.

/class salutorian
//just sayin'
 
2005-03-17 12:47:20 AM  
This is the LEast of your worries. In Montgomery County in MD. If you miss a detention they give you in-school suspension. What is IN SCHOOL suspension you ask? well they pull you out of class for an entire day and make you sit in the auditorium with the thugs and wanna be bad ass kids. You're not allowed to DO ANYTHING... Including your homework or any forms of studies. Now you tell me how this is productive. I liked it more when I was in private school. YOU get detention? YOu serve it SATURDAY MORNING for 2hrs, in uniform... You miss it once, you get double. You miss more than once? Expect getting suspended or an office meeting with parents. YOu act up some more? Your parents can kiss the tuition money goodbye, with you being expelled. And no parent likes to lose $7,000 that was suppose to last a whole school year. And that my friend is why private school works.
 
2005-03-17 12:47:29 AM  
i'm shocked that teens who severely fark up in school have parents who don't care
 
2005-03-17 12:52:07 AM  
Mother wanted for Questioning
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2005-03-17 01:08:37 AM  

Man. They had another *thing*. It was a small overlap and, even thought they thought it was silly, removed the costumes and attended the meeting. Nude.


[image from home.comcast.net too old to be available]

 
2005-03-17 01:16:56 AM  
Donaldson said the boy has asthmas and other medical problems.
I bet, if she did some research on the Internets, she could find some treatment ideas for his asthmas.

SFY
 
2005-03-17 01:21:08 AM  
They tried to pull this on me when my son had medical problems. You still have to go over and over to prove it. The answer is simple. HOME SCHOOL or independent studies.
PSlack, that cracked me up! hehe
 
2005-03-17 01:25:56 AM  
kidneystone:
PUH-leeze...yes the french are tyrants
there are reasons for those laws...look it up
 
2005-03-17 01:39:54 AM  

I bet, if she did some research on the Internets, she could find some treatment ideas for his asthmas.


I bet, if you did some research on the Internets, you could find some treatment ideas for your incredibly small penis as well.

If not, I can forward about 1/2 my in-box to you, no problem.

/i keed i keed
 
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