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(IOL.co.za)   Man -- told by doctors for 10 years he was "dangerously obese" -- had 55-pound tumor in his stomach   (iol.co.za) divider line 98
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2005-03-16 02:10:22 PM
More interesting is the news link below it (pops)...

Sex doll causes panic in the post office
 
2005-03-16 02:10:36 PM
Apparently it proves I can't spell and don't preview.
 
2005-03-16 02:14:27 PM
To the people who blame bad medical practices on socialized medicine, have you seen the studies on how many medical patients in America are killed by health-care providers mistakes every year? I think the latest ones put th number close to a quarter million.

Sheesh, does everything that happens in the world have to support your political view in some way?
 
2005-03-16 02:14:40 PM
Devilbunee:

The doctor asked if I had a problem with being admitted, to which I replied "Well, you're the Doctor." He sent me home without an excuse for work.


Sounds to me like you weren't exactly the most helpful. Giving a smartass answer when a doctor asks you a question- even if it may seem like a stupid question- doesn't usually lead to the best medical treatment.
 
2005-03-16 02:16:04 PM
o the people who blame bad medical practices on socialized medicine, have you seen the studies on how many medical patients in America are killed by health-care providers mistakes every year?

Have you seen the studies on how many people die in the UK each year for the lack of specialists?

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/10/utrans.xml
 
2005-03-16 02:16:09 PM
My aunt complained and complained about pain in her hip, and the docs told her there was nothing wrong with it. Turned out the top of her leg-bone was necrotic, and she had to get her hip replaced.

Yesterday, we had the article about the woman who complained and complained about pain in her gut, and it turned out that the doc had left a surgical sponge inside her.

Now we have Mr. Tumor.

That's it. If I ever have a recurring pain, and the doctors tell me that it's nothing, I will NOT believe them.
 
2005-03-16 02:16:26 PM
starfleetcoyote

If I only listened to people that agree with me, I'd get verrrrrrry lonely
 
2005-03-16 02:17:46 PM
This happened to me once, but instead of a tumor in my stomach, it was a penis in my pants...

/and I'm not dangerously obese...

//but I could be delusional...
 
2005-03-16 02:17:52 PM
sapa-dpa. I've wondered about that. Anyone know what it means? Is it an editor note or something like that?

Paris Hilton is a whore.
 
2005-03-16 02:20:17 PM
mmmmmmmmm...necrotic hips..lhagrhglhl
 
2005-03-16 02:20:34 PM
Gwydion you forgot anesthesiology, the other specialty of choice for those who have no people skills.
 
2005-03-16 02:20:35 PM
scooby111

While I agree with you, I have never had trouble getting a doctor to listen to me (except for one older guy) and I have seen like 15 different doctors.

I think doctors tend to listen to me because I am a tall male and have a tendency to know more medical stuff than most people. As for the tall male part, studies have shown that both males and taller folks, all other tings being equal, tend to be granted more credibility than females and shorter folks due to prejudices most prople don't even realize they have.
 
2005-03-16 02:22:14 PM
GIS for 'its not a tumor'

 
2005-03-16 02:24:12 PM
Cauchy_Riemann_equations

Have you seen the studies on how many people die in the UK each year for the lack of specialists?

No, and that link you included doesn't provide any. But what's your point, anyway? That socialized medicine causes deaths? So does non-socialized medicine, so what?
 
2005-03-16 02:24:33 PM
So, lemme get this straight:

Socialized medicine is bad because doctors make mistakes.

US-style medicine is expensive because lawsuits and malpractice insurance cost too much. But wait, it's not socialized, therefore they shouldn't be making mistakes and lawsuist/malpractice shouldn't be an issue. What gives?
 
2005-03-16 02:28:22 PM


my doctor says it's how much I drink...

/cancer
 
2005-03-16 02:29:39 PM
If it weren't for the socialists he wouldn't have been able to keep it so long.
- makes a much sense as any of this
 
2005-03-16 02:36:15 PM
rcaston: o' canada....

In other news, Yateley, Hampshire, and the Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading have been moved to Canada.

o' reading comprehension....

/your private health care system at work
Here...
and here...
 
2005-03-16 02:36:40 PM
well, that's a silly place to hide a tumor.
 
2005-03-16 02:38:03 PM
Medical Misdiagnosis is the Problem of the Doctor; Not Who Pays for the Care.
 
2005-03-16 02:40:03 PM
kanadier-
I almost choked on my own spit trying to stop myself from laughing out loud at that...

thanks
 
2005-03-16 02:41:40 PM
Fat people are a cancer on society!

/wahahahaha
 
2005-03-16 02:43:41 PM
Sadly, this is typical of most doctors I've met.

Typical process for getting something diagnosed:

Visit 1: "It's nothing serious. Just a minor bug that's going around. It will go away on its own in a couple of days."

Visit 2: "You must have been injured recently. Use this cold compress on the affected area three times a day."

Visit 3: "Oh, yes, it's clearly an infection. Take this antibiotic."

Visit 4: "Okay, let's do ten different tests."

Visit 5: "Looks like a viral infection. Get plenty of rest."

Visit 6: "As I originally suspected, you have a disease with a long name that you wouldn't understand. Take this prescription."

Visit 7: "Here are some exercises I want you to try."

Visit 8: "You didn't do the exercises properly. Just as I thought, you now have an STD."

and so on and so on

They never admit that they're stumped, and never consider multiple possibilities.

Their motto seems to be: Take a guess and know that the body will heal itself in 90% of cases, so you can take credit for the success.
 
2005-03-16 02:45:07 PM
If the doctors are all so bad, how can we be sure he even really has a tumor? Hmmm?
 
2005-03-16 02:52:18 PM
Unfortunately, as Neal Borrtz says, socialized medicine is an inevitability as more of the populace has been duped into believing that government medicine is a right, just like government education.
 
2005-03-16 02:53:48 PM
2005-03-16 01:13:37 PM DrumCorpsAlum

Reminds me of old school ER, like 1st or second season, when this fat chick went to the ER because she was sick, and popped out a young'n


They did the same thing with this season. Teenager comes in complaining of stomach pains. Out pops a youngin. Although this teenager was a skinny asian kid, not a fat sick woman.
 
2005-03-16 02:56:38 PM
Free healthcare? there's a fix for that...go to the county hospital, they may charge you but they cannot turn you away for any reason...and they get reimbursed for all defaulted medical billing by the federal government.

$31k in medical bills that UMC won't ever see.
 
2005-03-16 02:58:05 PM
As we start to defeat all of the medical problems that can kill us, we're going to see a rise (Percentage-wise) in the number of people that die due to medical mistakes. Think about it, if we eliminate all of the "Natural" things that can kill us, we'll only be left with the "Un-Natural".....

Seriously, if you want to know why medical mistakes are such a big deal, look at the amount of paperwork that is generated by a typical patient visit to a hospital. Before I have even ordered, examined, or seen my patient, the chart can number over 30 pages! A simple medication order (Tylenol) can add between 3 and 12 pages to that. An X-ray can double the size of the chart, and a CT scan can generate an additional 10-100 pages(!) of paperwork. This is not including all of the images generated, or other results.
To get that simple tylenol dose, a nurse may have to read what the doctor wrote, write what she is giving, fill out a form, sign for the medication, and then note again that she gave the medication. Granted, a scenario that I've seen only in one hospital.

My question is this: How much of your health care dollar is going to pay for pieces of paper and other administrative costs? You're certainly paying more money for admin, than for actual medicine.
 
2005-03-16 03:13:21 PM
You know what the call that person that graduates from medical school dead last in his class?

"Doctor"
 
2005-03-16 03:13:46 PM
"Get in my belly!"
 
2005-03-16 03:28:37 PM
'Everyone just took one look and thought I drank 15 pints a day'

hell that's nothing.. my professors look at my papers and think i drink 15 pints a day.
 
2005-03-16 03:36:31 PM
Mr Smithson, 53, says that he first complained about a grossly disorted abdomen and accompanying pain in 1994. He was referred to the hospital by his GP, but when he was seen there he was told he was fat.

When he finally reached the Royal Marsden, he says, the first reaction of Meirion Thomas, his surgeon, was: So youve not been to see your doctor for years and years, have you? He had to explain that he had been seeing doctors at regular intervals, with no satisfaction.

Mr Thomas removed what are described in Mr Smithsons discharge notes as a truly immense intra-abdominal liposarcoma. These are slow-growing malignant tumours that develop in fat tissue, and are often found in the abdominal cavity.

They are soft and can be difficult to diagnose, but Mr Smithson says that he had a range of symptoms that ought to have alerted doctors, including backache, circulation problems in his scrotum and a colon so displaced that it could be felt through the abdominal wall. He also had excessive body weight while not having any symptoms of obesity anywhere else in his body. I was constantly shopping for ever-increasing sizes of clothes, he said. Im a tall man and when I was also that heavy I wore out my shoes very quickly.


Unfortunately, no pictures.
 
2005-03-16 03:36:54 PM
Same thing happened to my father. Except it was 63 pounds. They never performed an abdominal check on him and kept telling him to lose weight. Finally my father said screw you to his doctor and got a second opionion. They found the tumor.
 
2005-03-16 03:39:34 PM
Wait - here we go: http://www.getreading.co.uk/story.asp?intid=11609



Now all we need is a picture of the tumour.
 
2005-03-16 03:51:32 PM
 
2005-03-16 04:25:49 PM
Theaetetus:
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
Don't ever GIS for "Giant Tumor"
Oh, geez. I'm gonna be sick.


Dude, thats like Internet 101

/GIS's "Giant Tumor"
 
2005-03-16 04:30:56 PM
Meh. Be a man, cut it out yourself. Screw doctors.
 
2005-03-16 04:41:39 PM
I think there should be an Internet 101 Photoshop contest - or was there already (as in, what the textbook would look like).
 
2005-03-16 04:54:31 PM
If you include the tumor, BMI would only allow another 20 pounds of body mass before he's obese
 
2005-03-16 05:15:06 PM
 
2005-03-16 05:25:10 PM
Theatus

Blame yourself. Some keywords should tip you off before you click "search"
e.g. Flystrike, tubgirl, teratoma, guinea worm...
 
2005-03-16 07:28:50 PM
Such flagrant abuse of the TTIWWP pic, uillchi.
Don't have pictures but I can GIS for tumors... if that is your thing, is it your thing?
 
2005-03-16 07:30:25 PM
My sister was in Londong going to school. She was feeling drastically ill when she left, but attributed it simply to the fact that she was leaving home for the first time, and had to break things off with the love of her life (who honestly believes that an intercontinental relationship will actually work, especially for four years?). Well, after this continued, she went to a doctor who told her she had a stomach virus. In fact several doctor's told her this. Finally, she went to see someone who told her she was six months pregnant. Stomach virus? Hmm...kinda scary if you ask me.
 
2005-03-16 09:13:14 PM
Finally, a fat person who isn't trying to rationalize his way out of feeling lazy.
 
2005-03-16 10:31:01 PM
Hit #4 from GIS "Giant Tumor"

 
2005-03-17 12:21:14 AM
I'd say a fifty-pound tumor pretty much DEFINES "dangerously obese."
 
2005-03-17 02:17:41 AM
People here realize that the US pays the most money for the least healthcare, right? I liked the Limbaugh suggestion above of ripping off the county hospital by leaving taxpayers with the bill. Very Republican of you.

Yes, there are issues in other countries, but I'll take that over, well, NOTHING. At least in Europe, you won't go bankrupt from medical bills because your appendix burst and you didn't have health insurance.

Health care costs are responsible for a good portion of bankruptcies in the US. And those are people WITH health insurance.

But hey, America is automatically perfect, does everything right and can't possibly become any better than it is, right?
 
2005-03-17 02:27:01 AM
Sounds like the quack doctors at Kaiser Permanente. I hope this guy gets enough to be set for life.
 
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