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(ABC)   Reporter goes undercover for story on sex with minors; has sex with minor to avoid blowing his cover   (abclocal.go.com) divider line 422
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2005-03-09 11:58:20 AM
er *FROM*
 
2005-03-09 11:58:42 AM
 
2005-03-09 11:59:26 AM
jst3p: If you're cruising the internet for some cock, chances are you're not the deeply clingy emotional long-term relationship kind. Just saying.


Or maybe you are a sad, lonely girl who thinks that sex=love.
 
2005-03-09 11:59:45 AM
There was a state trooper not too far from where I live that was on a sting at a massage parlor.

When the "therapist" offered him the happy ending he took it, not realizing that it was still illegal for him to receive it even if he was conducting a sting. All he needed was the offer.

Needless to say, he is not a state trooper anymore.
 
2005-03-09 12:00:07 PM
6 of one...
 
2005-03-09 12:00:18 PM
Thank heaven for little girls
For little girls get bigger every day!

Thank heaven for little girls
They grow up in the most delightful way!

Those little eyes so helpless and appealing
One day will flash and send you crashin thru the ceilin

Thank heaven for little girls
Thank heaven for them all,
No matter where no matter who
For without them, what would little boys do?
 
2005-03-09 12:00:35 PM
Not "you" you... you know what I mean...
 
2005-03-09 12:00:46 PM
What a Freudian case study this whole thing is.
 
2005-03-09 12:01:16 PM
When the "therapist" offered him the happy ending he took it

Was it CanadianSnowPrincess???
 
2005-03-09 12:01:24 PM
Mr. Clarence Butterworth
So you wanna get some sushi?
 
2005-03-09 12:01:34 PM
jst3p: Why don't we just get her on the couch so we can analyze her tag-team style?

Jesus. She went and looked for horny older men, she found them and sought them out in real life to have sex. Many many times. Many different men. Whatever her deepest innermost hopes and dreams and whatever emotional problems she has - I don't think what we are dealing with is an innocent victim and four depraved criminals.
 
2005-03-09 12:02:19 PM
NO MAN IS EVER A RESPONSIBLE ADULT 24/7. WE ALL WOULD HIT THAT GIVEN THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES. LEGALIZE POT AND SEX WITH CONSENTING MINORS WHO ARE SURFING THE INTERNET LOOKING FOR IT AND RAISE THE SPEED LIMITS.
 
2005-03-09 12:04:14 PM
Jesus. She went and looked for horny older men, she found them and sought them out in real life to have sex. Many many times. Many different men. Whatever her deepest innermost hopes and dreams and whatever emotional problems she has - I don't think what we are dealing with is an innocent victim and four depraved criminals.

Laws of consent exist just because of this attitude.
 
2005-03-09 12:04:52 PM
LEXSLAMMAN (and those that disagree),

You've got it right. There are a number of reasons why this girl may have initiated contact, but that's not the point. The responsibility lies with the adults. In my experience, behavior such as this from young girls is most often secondary to trauma and/or personality disorder (resulting from trauma).

You can kid yourself all you want, but healthy young girls don't go seeking older hairy balding men to "make love to." Of course, maybe that's what you want to believe after looking at all those teen pron sites?

Btw: Yea, that's healthy too...
 
2005-03-09 12:05:17 PM
Ironically, a girl can legally marry in Texas at age 13.

"I hear tell this here filly is intersted in my leavin's"
 
2005-03-09 12:06:20 PM
skinmite, son of a biatch; how did ya work that?

Big cock? No...thats not it.......lots of money? No.....not that either........great looks? Crap, really, I have no idea.
 
2005-03-09 12:06:30 PM
Bangkapi

I'll bet that comment just put you on an FBI watchlist.
 
2005-03-09 12:06:34 PM
A Cuban friend once said to me: "After sixteen, they're ruined."

That friend? You guessed it, Fidel Castro. Perv all the way.

Personally, I like my women young too; they're no good once they mature past gametes.
 
2005-03-09 12:07:11 PM
skinmite:
My girlfriend is 19. I am 35.
Legal and lovin it.


It's fun for a little while, but then they want to marry you and ten years later they mysteriously get pregnant after you've been snipped for years and they announce they want to see other people and take your 3 kids with them and hit you on the head with a beer bottle and because you are now 45 you don't heal as fast and the cops will beat you too just for thinking about returning the beer bottle and because you are a man so you'll lose the kids and have to pay 70% of your income to child support and spousal support for 16 more years even though the last one probably isn't even yours!

Much better to rotate them like milk in the refrigerator, getting a new gallon before they hit their expiration date and go bad.
 
2005-03-09 12:07:34 PM
Let's see a picture of the girl. At least then we could see if it was worth it.
 
2005-03-09 12:09:01 PM
I bet the underage chick is a prostitute, and it just hasn't come out yet. More than meets the eye hear me thinks.
 
2005-03-09 12:10:15 PM
Much better to rotate them like milk in the refrigerator, getting a new gallon before they hit their expiration date and go bad.

You, Sir, are my hero.
 
2005-03-09 12:11:38 PM
I'm not saying what these guys did is right, but this girl almsost sounds like she's enjoying this entire thing (from the second article). Almost like Alicia Silverstone in 'The Crush'.
 
2005-03-09 12:13:16 PM
Trish the Dish unavailable for comment.
 
2005-03-09 12:13:46 PM
It is absolutely ridiculous that a 16 year old girl can spread her legs for man after man and she is labled a "Victim"...But the men end up in jail with a lable for the rest of his life. Nothing happens to her.
 
2005-03-09 12:13:57 PM
Lebowski78

...hear me thinks.

Me don't haves ESP.
 
2005-03-09 12:14:48 PM
Ahhhh - yet another case where invented "facts" in a headline about a mediochre (at best) article gets the green light....
 
2005-03-09 12:15:11 PM
So this girl is working w/ cops on a sting operation... and she actually HAS SEX w/ these 4 men? Does this sound fishy (or ridiculously absurd) to anyone else? They would never let her go through w/ the act, nor would they need to to arrest these men.
 
2005-03-09 12:15:37 PM
I don't know about you all, but I am a responsible adult who has no interest in violating a teenage girl. I question whether some of you are actually pervs, after all, this is the internet. Besides, I am happily engaged to the most beautiful woman on earth.

For all of you who equate child molestation and statuatory rape to homosexuality, you are farking retarded. You need to stop reading Ann Coulter, watching FOXNews, and listening to talk radio. Wake up and take a look at the real world. The VAST majority of pedophiles are men who pray on underage girls. Homosexuality, by definition, is a relationship between two people of the same sex. There is no age stipulation. Most gays and lesbians prefer people from their own age group, just like most heterosexuals. And guess what? Just like in our overall population, homosexuals make up a very small percentage of the sex offender community.

It is important that we uphold the standards we have set, otherwise the social contract between the individual and society will be broken. In other words, these men must be punished severely for committing an act that was not only illegal, but against the customs of our culture. Anyone under the age of 18 is not a suitable sex partner for anyone over the age of 18. Our society has set that boundary, and all responsible (as in: NOT RETARDED) adults should be held to that. Period.
 
2005-03-09 12:15:55 PM
Crap, really, I have no idea.

She's fat???

/just kiddin'... sorry....
 
2005-03-09 12:16:30 PM
This should make for an interesting Lifetime Original movie.
 
2005-03-09 12:17:44 PM
its so nice that the same people who feel these guys are horrible predators for farking a 16 year old who said yes are the same pricks that cheer the "pound me in the ass" prison scenario.
 
2005-03-09 12:19:25 PM
lexslamman

I don't know about you all, but I am a responsible adult who has no interest in violating a teenage girl.

Violating? They had consensual sex with her. It was illegal, yes. But they didn't violate her, they violated the law.
 
2005-03-09 12:19:34 PM
I just learned the term "Prostitot" (pros-tih-tot) the other day to describe underage girls who dress like hookers.
And yeah, the legal age here in Canada is too young for me... now. When I was 14 I thought I was all grown up and ready - desperate - for sexual relations; then my younger sister turned 14 and I realized that I was just a tad deluded at that age.

I'm all for women expressing their sexuality but at such a young age they aren't expressing anything except a need to fallow trends and it could put them in physical danger (worst case scenario) or confuse them in the long term about the real nature of sex and relationships.
 
2005-03-09 12:20:19 PM
FMad

So this girl is working w/ cops on a sting operation

Where in the article did it say that?
 
2005-03-09 12:20:23 PM
Anyone under the age of 18 is not a suitable sex partner for anyone over the age of 18. Our society has set that boundary, and all responsible (as in: NOT RETARDED) adults should be held to that. Period.

Period?!? Oh snap... we better stop discussing this pronto!

You're a tool, and I'll tell you why. There are no absolutes... What if the GIRL is 18 and the guy is 17 + 8 months? Still immoral? What if they are only 4 days apart and they have sex in that magic-3-day-window??? Still perverted and wrong? What's that??? Oh, so NOW it's complicated... I see...

Let's change the subject and say that you are interested in brewing your own beer. Suddenly, the LAW says it's illegal to do so... Are you now a bad person because you previously took part in an act that violates a social contract? Would you stop??? If you didn't, would you be an anarchist???

Not so black and white, you say??? Stop telling people that the world is simple. Period.
 
2005-03-09 12:21:16 PM
jst3p: I might just as well say that it exists because of people with attitudes like yours: i.e. "lock up all the depraved men possible, having sex with hot young girls that beg for it is SICK!"

/takes two opposite views to tango
 
2005-03-09 12:21:30 PM
About people complaining about the headline. Many times they will take a headline form one link and put it with a different link. It will be the same story but a different link. I guess they don't like the source it is being linked to. This is way many times the headline doesn't really match the link.

I wish they would be more careful about this to make sure they match better.
 
2005-03-09 12:21:56 PM
Not like she got farked in the ass by an LA Laker.
 
2005-03-09 12:23:18 PM
Webgrunt

Of course the sex was consensual, I RTFA. What you are commenting on was a declarative statement I made as part of the general conversation that was not directed toward the subject matter of the article.

but, statuatory rape is illegal, as you nicely pointed out, and these guys deserve to go away, especially if the prosecution can prove they knew how old she was.

By the way, for all of the critics out there, I fully support the strictist penalties for sex-offenders. There's no greater crime but murder, in my opinion. Life imprisonment should be the average penalty for a sex related offense.
 
2005-03-09 12:23:29 PM
Some girls are wholesome, others girls just some hole.

This fulfills my daily dose of misogyny.
 
2005-03-09 12:24:28 PM
 
2005-03-09 12:25:23 PM

Jesus. She went and looked for horny older men, she found them and sought them out in real life to have sex. Many many times. Many different men. Whatever her deepest innermost hopes and dreams and whatever emotional problems she has - I don't think what we are dealing with is an innocent victim and four depraved criminals.


Uh, according to the law here they are criminals by definition. And it is pretty depraved to pork a girl younger than 17 when you're 30-something. I'm sorry, but she obviously isn't very mature getting into this kind of thing and the fellas here knew it and took advantage of it.

Are there some exceptions with wide age differences where it may be healthy? Maybe if they're in their 20s. But a teenager? Get the hell outta here with that. See a therapist if you're 30 and find teenage girls to be as mature as you think you are.
 
2005-03-09 12:30:05 PM
A little advice for all you pedophiles traveling to other countries for underage (read: under 18 years old) poon:

It is a federal crime for an American citezen to travel to another country for the purpose of having sex with a person under 18 years of age. They can arrest and indict you as soon as you come home.

/problem is, they gotta prove intent to have sex with person under 18.
 
2005-03-09 12:30:10 PM
Biggest age discrepancy ever? 15 billion years.

/Biblical
 
2005-03-09 12:30:27 PM
My girlfriend is 19. I am 35.
Legal and lovin it.


Sweeeet. So when you were 25, she was 9.

And when you were graduating high school, she was in diapers.

You rock!!!!!!!
 
2005-03-09 12:30:49 PM
"You can kid yourself all you want, but healthy young girls don't go seeking older hairy balding men to "make love to." "

Correct. They are usually looking for cash or some type of social status. Either way, some do seek them out.
 
2005-03-09 12:33:19 PM
Not sure if any Houstonians already mentioned this...i doubit it.

The orthodontist has been caught once before in a sting operation that was on the local news here is Hou. He didn't actually get to have the under-age-sex...they did one of those stings where a grown-up pretends to be 13 or 14 on the net, then lures them to a house. He knocked on the door (all on film), and when cameras were in his face, of course, he took off. This man THOUGHT he was going to have sex with a 13 year old (i can't remember exactly, but 13 or 14)!!!! They also showed bleeped up pictures that he sent a photo of himself the the "girl" holding his penis in a hot-dog bun!!! THEN they went to his office and showed his building on the news! I really hope that slowed his business. Think of all the teenagers going to an ortho....

Freakazoid, I hope he gets some pound...ass...you know

sorry for the poor writing skilz, trying to hurry so I can go to lunch. :)
 
2005-03-09 12:34:02 PM
NCg8r

Allow me to clarify for you, since it seems you are incapable of interpreting the law:

There are no absolutes...

Thank you, Mr. Nietzsche. In the eyes of the law, there are two absolutes: Guilty, and Not Guilty.

What if the GIRL is 18 and the guy is 17 + 8 months? Still immoral?

We're not talking about morality here. Morality has no use when interpreting the law. Moral, immoral, amoral, who cares. Its illegal.

What if they are only 4 days apart and they have sex in that magic-3-day-window??? Still perverted and wrong? What's that??? Oh, so NOW it's complicated... I see...

Not complicated at all, see above. Jackarse.

Let's change the subject and say that you are interested in brewing your own beer. Suddenly, the LAW says it's illegal to do so... Are you now a bad person because you previously took part in an act that violates a social contract?

In the early 21st century, brewing beer does not violate any social contract that I know of. Of course it is against the law in some places to brew your own beer, so yes, it is illegal, but you confuse rational ethics, law, and dogmatic morality so much in these statements I am unsure if you even know what you are speaking of.

Would you stop??? If you didn't, would you be an anarchist???

Yes, the Belgians make the best beer, not me. I would rather drink a Delirium than one of my piece of shiat american krap-braus. No. I would be a conscientious objector.

Not so black and white, you say??? Stop telling people that the world is simple. Period.

The law is very black and white. You are either guilty, or not guilty. You either commit a crime, or you don't commit a crime. The world has no room for fence sitters (earth to moderates). The world is quite simple and most things are easily defined, labled, and put back on the shelf. I am telling everyone that the world is simple, stop making it so damned complicated and go out and live your lives. Period.
 
2005-03-09 12:35:38 PM
sentient_being

You hit the nail right on the head.
 
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