From that last link: for OSX: Webgrazer.. looks cool! NSFW =)
http://www.dekorte.com/Software/OSX/WebGrazer/index.html

When people say "write a new operating system" these days, they
just mean hack their own version of Linux or BSD.

Senator Fark:

2005-03-02 04:57:17 PM Senator Fark

epyonyx also if anyone can tell me why Firefox takes forever to load up when I start it that'd be great

Try using a preloader:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader/

Thank You
Thank You
Thank You

Oh yea, epyonyx thanks for asking the question

people are creatures of habit. They won't want to stray from the "ease" of windows.

PhantomPhark:

8ctopus

What the hell is a droog

Rent A Clockwork Orange.

Or, better yet, READ 'A Clockwork Orange.'

palexc:
PhantomPhark: Rent A Clockwork Orange.

READ. READ A Clockwork Orange.

Sorry, didn't know you were there ahead of me. My apologies.

Pussies.

w00t!

"The new MSN Search - as the starting page of all default IE installations - could easily overtake Google's usage amoungst the masses. We'll see."


AAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!

*deep breath*

AHHAHAAHAAHAAAAHHAHAHAHHAA!!!

Bootyful. Bootyful. Yeah, at least until people get sick of a bloated webpage laden with ads for a homepage and they change it.

M$ did not invent Hotmail, they acquired it, back when it was HoTMaiL.

That said, is anyone else mesmerized by the "Hello Again" commercials for Nick at Nite?

I used to think Google could do no wrong.

Then I saw Google Groups Beta.

Thank god they've only inflicted that on the US server.

greaser_77: Try using a preloader:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader/

Also, putting /Prefetch:1 in the Firefox's shortcut speeds up loading time (ie: "C:\mozilla firefox\firefox.exe" /Prefetch:1).

My bet is that google is just going to hire everyone out from M$ and then M$ will have no one working for them...becuase google has bought everyone's souls...and then google buys GOD...and then....it...buys............

Most of the anti-Google stuff you see out there is brought to you by PR specialists paid by Microsoft...

/Pluto's Kiss

rmoody:
Bootyful. Bootyful. Yeah, at least until people get sick of a bloated webpage laden with ads for a homepage and they change it.

The truth is many people don't know how.

rmoody:

Bootyful. Bootyful. Yeah, at least until people get sick of a bloated webpage laden with ads for a homepage and they change it.

How hard could it be for you to actually go to their site and be proven wrong:

http://search.msn.com/

Google is still better, but you should learn to stop spewing bullshiat to support your arguments. In any topic.

google local is one of my favorite google tools that a lot of people don't know about yet either.

speaking of M$, when will I ba able to play m4a or mp4 files on wmp??

This will probably be similar to the vision that Gates had a few years back about a .net system based on a very, very, very basic computer wired to a super computer across the internet. It's kinda like going back to the concept of a mainframe and terminal, but this time around, the mainframe will be SICK. I mean, all of your high-end graphic programs, games, "desktop" applications would be run, superfast on the mainframe.

The reason I think my theory is possible is that they're great at using outdated PCs for their own search engine cluster. The beauty of Google isn't just their search engines, but their ability to build and maintain supercomputers at fractions of fractions of the cost of tech wonders like "Big Blue." I would not be surprised at all to see Google find newer revenue sources through their clustering and OS technologies. And as business smart as they seem to be, they won't license the software out, rather, they're going to keep it hidden and secret for themselves. Profit!

I doubt that google would rewrite an OS from scratch, however a software layer that allows windows drivers and programs that run on windows would be a killer app.

Microsoft will steal it and put it out as Longhorn.

No what they should do is implement a DFS-able version of Google/FS and make every computer in the world part of the Massive Googlebrain.

Google isn't as dominant a search engine as many farkers are making it out to be:

comScore Media Metrix Dec 2004
Google: 35%
Yahoo: 32%
MSN: 16%
AOL: 9%
Others: 8%
http://searchenginewatch.com/reports/article.php/2156431

or alternatively

Neilson NetRatings Dec 2004
Google: 44.9%
Yahoo: 32.0%
MSN: 25.2%
AOL: 17.0%
http://searchenginewatch.com/reports/article.php/2156451
[totals here exceed 100% because each user can be counted for more than one search engine]

(and please read read the articles before speculating on their methodology)

That's dominant enough for me to love hem, StrongBrad.

Dan86turbo-

I'm guessing since you're an employee, you actually have to use Internet Explorer. My deepest sympathies.

Senator Fark:

epyonyx also if anyone can tell me why Firefox takes forever to load up when I start it that'd be great

Try using a preloader:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader/

Thank you very much.

Deep Hurting
If Google wanted to make a good desktop GUI, why would they hire someone from Microsoft to do it?
Maybe they're tired of being successful and want to give failure a try?


If billions a year in profit is failure I would like to see an example of success.

While people here have pointed out that Microsoft crushed Netscape (won the battle), they forget that MS lost the war.

The war was Microsoft trying to keep the World Wide Web off of Windows Systems -- after all, if someone can view pages that look the same on any OS, eventually there will come a time when people find a way to write applications for that, and eventually all your applications can be done online (it's bad for people in the OS business when their customer base realizes they can run their favorite applications for cheaper on another OS). They wined and dined the people from NS askign them not to, they decided to anyways, MS played hard ball and killed them, but in doing so they had to bring the interweb to Windows. By crippling NS, they at least crippled the WWW for a while, so they are partially dictating how people design, but it's a lot harder to control than the OS front is.

Best of both worlds - READ, then RENT 'A Clockwork Orange'

Are there any good IDEs for C/C++ in Linux? Just asking

We are back to the thin client or Mainframe state of mind. It's come full circle. Don't think Microsoft doesn't realize this. They are all for it as long as they are the OS/MVS for this new/old trend.

/talk about going around your elbow to get to your arse

Ditka vs. Google....



DITKA by a late field goal...

G. Bostock: Best of both worlds - READ, then RENT 'A Clockwork Orange'

And make sure your copy HAS THE LAST CHAPTER. The one they originally left out in the US version, and the movie for that matter.

Or the real reason they hire OS people is that they are working on internal stuff. They already have their own distributed file system (Google FS) that runs on top of GNU/Linux. There is a LOT of technology behind their search engine. They have done a ton of custom work on the Linux kernel as well as other related pieces of software already.

They also have a brilliant team, and the highest percentage of PhDs of any company in the world.

/wants a job there
//almost done with his BA
///needs to start the PhD

old news... someone from fark made this comment like 3 or 6 months ago in one of the comp geek threads...

/didnt RTFC (is that a valid acronym?)

GooOS, the Google Operating System

Great post about what Google is up to by Rich Skrenta. He argues that Google is building a huge computer with a custom operating system that everyone on earth can have an account on. His last few paragraphs are so much more perceptive than anything that's been written about Google by anyone; Skrenta nails the company exactly:

Google is a company that has built a single very large, custom computer. It's running their own cluster operating system. They make their big computer even bigger and faster each month, while lowering the cost of CPU cycles. It's looking more like a general purpose platform than a cluster optimized for a single application.

While competitors are targeting the individual applications Google has deployed, Google is building a massive, general purpose computing platform for web-scale programming.

This computer is running the world's top search engine, a social networking service, a shopping price comparison engine, a new email service, and a local search/yellow pages engine. What will they do next with the world's biggest computer and most advanced operating system?

I was thrilled reading this today because I had been thinking along the same lines as I wondered about Gmail (and the 1GB of storage in particular)...and that Skrenta had made the argument so well. This weekend, as I hacked through a bunch of XHTML and CSS for an upcoming site redesign, I jotted down a few notes for a follow-up on a post I made over a year ago called Google is not a search company. I was going to call it "GooOS, the Google Operating System".

My notes contained two of Skrenta's main points: the importance of the supercomputer and the scores of Ph.Ds being Google's main assets. A third key asset for Google is the data that they're storing on those 100,000 computers. As I said in that post:

Google's money won't be made with search...that's small peanuts compared to selling access to the world's biggest, best, and most cleverly-utilized map of the web.

So. They have this huge map of the Web and are aware of how people move around in the virtual space it represents. They have the perfect place to store this map (one of the world's largest computers that's all but incapable of crashing). And they are clever at reading this map. Google knows what people write about, what they search for, what they shop for, they know who wants to advertise and how effective those advertisements are, and they're about to know how we communicate with friends and loved ones. What can they do with all that? Just about anything that collection of Ph.Ds can dream up.

Tim O'Reilly has talked about various bits from the Web morphing into "the emergent Internet operating system"; the small pieces loosely joining, if you will. Google seems to be heading there already, all by themselves. By building and then joining a bunch of the small pieces by themselves, Google can take full advantage of the economies of scale and avoid the difficulties of interop.

Google isn't worried about Yahoo! or Microsoft's search efforts...although the media's focus on that is probably to their advantage. Their real target is Windows. Who needs Windows when anyone can have free unlimited access to the world's fastest computer running the smartest operating system? Mobile devices don't need big, bloated OSes...they'll be perfect platforms for accessing the GooOS. Using Gnome and Linux as a starting point, Google should design an OS for desktop computers that's modified to use the GooOS and sell it right alongside Windows ($200) at CompUSA for $10/apiece (available free online of course). Google Office (Goffice?) will be built in, with all your data stored locally, backed up remotely, and available to whomever it needs to be (SubEthaEdit-style collaboration on Word/Excel/PowerPoint-esque documents is only the beginning). Email, shopping, games, music, news, personal publishing, etc.; all the stuff that people use their computers for, it's all there.

Even though everyone's down on Google these days, they remain the most interesting company in the world and I'm optimistic about their potential and success (while also apprehensive about the prospect of using Google for absolutely everything someday...I'll be cursing the Google monopoly in 5 years time). If they stay on target with their plans to leverage their three core assets (which, if Gmail is any indication, they will), I predict Google will be the biggest and most important company in the world in 5-8 years.


http://www.kottke.org/04/04/google-operating-system

See.. threads like this are what make FARK wonderful.

Strong Brad
Google isn't as dominant a search engine as many farkers are making it out to be:

comScore Media Metrix Dec 2004
Google: 35%
Yahoo: 32%
MSN: 16%
AOL: 9%
Others: 8%

That is not surprising. How many AOL, MSN, and Yahoo! lUsers resolve those URLs in order to have information provided to them--as opposed to searching for data?

boot20: Are there any good IDEs for C/C++ in Linux? Just asking

I use Anjuta. I prefer it over some of the more complex IDEs because it isn't as "in-your-face" and lets you do what you want. Works for other languages than C/C++.

boot20
Are there any good IDEs for C/C++ in Linux? Just asking

as Totally Pharked mentioned, there is Anjuta (IDE for gnome), there's another one for KDE called KDevelop, and then there's Eclipse.

That said, I couldn't really tell you much about any of their relative merits as I (and probably most other linux programmers) still use Vim or Emacs.

Happy coding ;)

I totally agree with this flamewar. I hate all technology companies. Except Sandisk. And maybe Logitec.

Oh, and that was supposed to be a joke.

/invisible funny