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(BBC)   Socialized medicine goes "whoops" again: Girl denied solid food for seven years turns out to be suffering merely from tonsillitis   ( divider line
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2005-02-25 10:45:56 AM  

Yes, sadly (not that I'm against taxes, just income tax--I want a consumption tax). My point is simply that we don't try to use taxes and money to fix every social problem that we face. Sometimes we just need to take the responsibility upon ourselves instead of looking to mother-government.
2005-02-25 10:52:02 AM  

Read the figures I posted above. You are already paying more in taxes for healthcare than most socialised systems. I fail to see your argument.
2005-02-25 10:57:55 AM  
My spider sense detects...
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2005-02-25 10:58:35 AM  


To speak as an economist, fire protection is excludable, but not rivalrous. Health care is also excludable, but is rivalrous as well. Therefore, fire protection is a "natural monopoly," while health care is a "private good." Your analogy is therefore specious.

Also as an economist... wow, humor is dead...
I would argue that fire protection is just as rivalrous... that is to say, subject to competition. In Oklahoma (and several other states, I believe), the EMT /Ambulance companies compete and in many places there are no publicly owned ambulance services... why not fire companies? It's a fairly logical extention.

2005-02-25 11:03:42 AM  
Why is it that we never hear about American children saving up and holding fundraisers to go to Canada or the UK for treatment?
2005-02-25 11:06:38 AM  
Looks like they went to the post office instead of the hospital. Shouldn't do that.
2005-02-25 11:08:46 AM  

Key words in that article, "as well as the costs of tax subsidies for private coverage and expenditures to purchase private insurance for government employees".

GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES are payed with taxes.

The REST of us, don't get government help besides Medicare and Medicaid for healthcare.

And history shows, socialism fails every time when its applied to government and social programs.

There is no such thing as a "prosperous socialist country".

People like you want socialism because "it levels the playing field, and makes life fair for everyone", you think.

The problem is, there are people who are willing and eager to do MORE than their fair share, therefore deserve the right to earn more and keep more because they're willing to go above and beyond everyone else.

They are above the playing field, and earn the right to be more prosperous.

YOU want to hold them back, and bring them down to the lower standards of the poor schlubs who can't, or don't WANT to work harder and earn their keep.

THAT, is assinine, and counter productive.

Life isn't fair, so quit trying to force it to be.
2005-02-25 11:09:11 AM  
Heart valve operations in Bangalore India cost a little less than $5000. Flight to get there is kind of expensive. Out-sourcing the doctor......
2005-02-25 11:09:23 AM  

2005-02-24 09:20:25 PM jim90291
where in the consitution does it say you get FREE health care?

The same place it says you should get free roads, and free pensions.

I don't see anything about health care (or pensions), but there is a mandate for (some, not necessarily free) roads. Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: [The Congress shall have Power] To establish Post Offices and post Roads.

As others have pointed out, much of road building which is funded at a national level is covered by the (much abused, IMO) Commerce clause.
2005-02-25 11:19:38 AM  

Lot of assumptions and untruths in that last post Mikeyboy. I've got better things to do than bash my head up against the brickwall of ignorance.

Life isn't fair, so quit trying to force it to be.

Spoken like a true Christian.

Do you ever ask yourself "What would Jesus do?"? Because I doubt very much he would want you to accept life's unfairness, and continue to grab everything that you can at the detriment of others. I suggest you take a long, hard look at yourself someday and ask yourself if money really is the most important thing in life.
2005-02-25 11:33:18 AM  
If Canadian Doctors are "Rich", then the Canadian people are getting farked. Guess it depends on how rich...150k income? Ok...500k? Nah.
2005-02-25 11:39:40 AM  
what would Jesus do? Faith healing at no charge.
2005-02-25 11:48:52 AM  
All socialized medicine has to do with the story is that some Republican with an agenda submitted the headline.

2005-02-25 11:54:20 AM  
Submitter is a moron.

Socialized medicine has nothing to do with this.
Quit arguing about it, it's pointless... Oh wait, this is fark.

Everyone here is a social and economic expert... Living in Mom's basement.
2005-02-25 12:28:08 PM  
Funny thing about Britain, they have what we call a two-tiered health system with widely available health care for all and health care you can pay for at private clinics and hospitals if you are lucky enough to afford it.

The story doesn't identify which system the girl was using.
2005-02-25 12:37:50 PM  
jim90291: regardless of our insurance/non-socialized health care system, the US still has the BEST health care in the world. yes, you have to afford it/have insurance.

Yeah, er, except WHO ranked the United States 37th in overall health system performance - that's better then Slovenia's, but not quite as good as Costa Rica's.

NEWSFLASH: The US does NOT have the best EVERYTHING in the world.
2005-02-25 12:43:55 PM  
Off-topic, but Sigdiamond's "Owned" pic early in the thread is about the funniest one I've ever seen.
2005-02-25 01:53:45 PM  
American Taxpayers to Pay Majority of Health Care Costs
"The figures show that spending on Medicare and Medicaid will grow at roughly 7% to 8% per year until 2014, when the programs are expected to cover 49% of all U.S. health costs. After that, publicly funded programs will for the first time surpass private insurance as the nation's primary backer of health insurance, the estimates show."
2005-02-25 05:16:44 PM  
You have us confused with Canada.

How long did you live in Canada?
2005-02-25 07:14:30 PM  
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