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2002-03-18 09:54:15 AM
 
2002-03-18 09:55:04 AM
"Take a left, Grandma.."
"I'm driving?"
 
2002-03-18 09:55:24 AM
After seeing a couple of children and a couple of adults get killed by elderly drives I don't understand the "amusing" tag.
 
2002-03-18 09:57:04 AM
As Fb- said,
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2002-03-18 09:57:28 AM
I will be 55 this year, when can I safely start running over children and small animals?
 
2002-03-18 09:59:00 AM
True story from SC.

My mom couldn't see well enough at the DMV to get her license renewed. They told her she would have to go to her eye doctor and get a note saying he was treating her to get her license renewed. Sure enough. She went to him, got a letter saying that an opthomologist has verified that she can't see and the DMV issued her a new license.

Scary, huh? Not only did they know she couldn't see that well, they had a professional eye examiner verify it before they issued her a new license.
 
2002-03-18 09:59:11 AM
The poll says it all.
 
2002-03-18 09:59:37 AM
Leonard_cohen....HALLELUJAH!!!!
 
2002-03-18 10:00:47 AM
Q: What's worse than a speeding bullet.
A: An old man in a Cadillac.
 
2002-03-18 10:07:16 AM
 
2002-03-18 10:07:25 AM
Just the other day I was driving down the road past a small shopping center when some little old lady who obviously couldn't see over her steering wheel was pulling out into the road. Seeing her obvious age and height impairment I slowed down, just in time to swerve out of her way as she proceeded to pull out of the drive onto my side of the road heading directly toward me. I've seen wide turns before that was ridiculous! Here in VT they don't require retests unless given reason either. That doesn't make sense. It kinda reminds me of how you can't get a restraining order against someone unless they actually attack you first. Logic doesn't often seem to have any place in this society.
 
2002-03-18 10:08:53 AM
 
2002-03-18 10:10:06 AM
It just goes to show that America has the best damn Deparment of Motor Vehicles... Period!
 
2002-03-18 10:10:46 AM
"Did I just hear a bump?"
 
2002-03-18 10:11:25 AM
 
2002-03-18 10:11:52 AM
Having seen too many old folks out driving who are hooked up to oxygen tanks, who are sitting on phone books just to see over the dashboard, and who don't know which lane is which, methinks mandatory driving skill and written exam evaluations are in order - test both every two years at age 65 and every year at age 75. I'm willing to pay higher license fees to support such a program.
 
2002-03-18 10:12:54 AM
I'm usually the last guy to cheer for lawsuits and removing personal freedom, but this is right on. I'm all for making it more difficult for everybody to get a driver's license--apparently to get one today all you need is a face they can take a picture of. But I think the elderly are statistically underrepresented by surveys simply because they frequently are the cause of the accidents, but are not actually involved in them. I've seen old people run others off the road, back into parked cars without knowing it, and drive 35 MPH in the left lane of a highway. Statistics can't capture this.

I was once at the DMV and there was a guy that could barely walk getting his license renewed. He hobbled over to the vision test and started slowly calling out letters, struggling with each one. I don't know how may he got right, but the license was issued, leaving the rest of us in line staring incredulously at one another.

Then he hobbled out the door and spent 10 minutes gently lowering himself into his Oldsmobuick. Imagine what this guy's reflexes are like! He can barely sit down!

There's gotta be a better way.
 
2002-03-18 10:14:09 AM
It is about time someone turned the focus on those old farts. Thats one group that gets away with murder just because they are old and helpless. The DMV should give mandatory driving tests every year after 60. I have a grandma who doesn't belong on the road, and there is nothing more painful than riding with her, or her with you for that matter, she is just plain scared to be on the road.
My other grandma had a lead foot and a serious case of Road Rage. She hated stupid old people driving as much as the rest of us.
 
2002-03-18 10:16:08 AM
And while on the subject of old people; What the hell is the deal with people over 70 having a liscense? I mean jesus christ, these people can't even go to the bathroom without aid, but they are allowed to take full control of a 200 hp vehicle. It scares me to know that Edna the 73 year old invalid hasn't had her driving skills tested for over 57 years. It's pretty funny how senile old men with slow reflexes aren't allowed to go shopping without help, yet they can hop in their Cadillac and go careening over the highway any time they want...

..... An old lady that decides to look under her seat for that roll of pennies she is going to buy her Ensure with, while she is operating a vehicle on a highway, is a lot more dangerous than that speeding car being driven by the driver that is focused and aware in the left lane. Sure, he might be doing 80, but as long as he is focused on the road and is aware of the cars around him, he is safe. Don't even try telling me the guy speeding is more dangerous than the old lady digging for pennies while doing the speed limit....

The driving laws and focuses of this country really need to be re-evaluated. While I can partially see how speeding is dangerous and should be stopped, I also see that it is not nearly as much of a threat to the lives of other drivers as those that drive carelessly and without regard to those around them. Yet I have yet to see an old lady sitting in her Cadillac ElDorado, begging the officer not to cite her for wearing glasses that have a darker tint to their lense than the legal limit for car windows.
 
2002-03-18 10:18:50 AM
I do think it's interesting that the guy decided to sue the state and not the old man who hit him. I guess it's still not acceptable to sue old people and hold them responsible for their actions.
 
2002-03-18 10:18:59 AM
"In Missouri, for example, where the push to control older drivers began after a deadly wreck in 1991, people can already inform on bad drivers anonymously. The law is widely seen as a way to help worried family members get elderly relatives off the road."
This and more at this old article:
http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/05/09/p1s4.htm
 
2002-03-18 10:21:59 AM
Boomslang, I think the window tinting is just so an officer can actually see in a car when he's approaching.
 
2002-03-18 10:22:05 AM
Hell Yeah. License holders need to be manditorily checked every year past age 60-65. While no-one WANTS to have thier ability to get around impaired, realizing that you're a danger to everyone else is important. My grandfather voluntarily gave up his license at age 65. 35+ years of being a driver's ED teacher gave him some respect. Hope more news like this makes the mainstream and causes some reform. Unfortunately seeing as how senior citizens represent a HUGE voting block, seeing this kind of initiative pass a ballot anywhere is going to be slim methinks.
 
2002-03-18 10:22:16 AM
old people scare the crap outta me when they drive. especially when an old women slamed into the back on my car last year. I was farking stopped at a red light and she hit me. what a biatch.
 
2002-03-18 10:23:37 AM
Didn't anyone else catch this? (Caps are mine since I don't know HTML)

Lawyers for a man who's been IN A COMA for months now said they're going to sue the state of New Jersey over elderly drivers. Vincent Corso HAS BEEN IN A COMA ever since he was allegedly struck by an elderly hit-and-run driver in December.

If this guy is has been in a coma since he was hit, how did he hire lawyers to sue? Or did a lawfirm just decide the guy WOULD sue if he was concious and they're simply suing it in his name? I don't like elderly drivers either and something needs to change but if these lawyers are suing on behalf of comatose man without actually being hired by him, then they're even lower than I thought.
 
2002-03-18 10:26:39 AM
Yep, I lived in New Jersey, once you first get your Licence you never have to take another test unless you pretty much kill someone, I have moved back to Michigan, here you get re-tested (written test) every 8 years. I think there should be a road test every 8 years as well. (maybe it would get more of the idiots of all ages off the roads)
 
2002-03-18 10:32:07 AM
I live in South Jersey and we have had many people try to change the law for people to take the driving test every couple of years or so. Why wont they listen?
 
2002-03-18 10:33:38 AM
That would put a major crimp on New Jersey's drug trafficking...
 
2002-03-18 10:33:56 AM
Speaking as a resident of the blue-hair state, I say bravo.

My aunt has gotten Alzheimer's pretty badly. She's not driving anymore, but it wasn't too long ago that she told me, "The drivers here are much nicer when you drive in the wrong direction. In Maryland they honk and yell at you."
 
2002-03-18 10:37:27 AM
I was a victim of an old-fart hit-and-run, in the DMV parking lot of all places. The guy hit my car and drove off, right in front of several DMV employees (smart, huh?) who kindly gave me the guy's license number. I sent the police to his house and they told me he was 83 and claimed that "he didn't see any damage to your car, so he left." Hmmmmm. Let's think about this. He DIDN'T SEE THE CAR - how could he see the big ol' dent he put in the fender? Jiminy Christmas.

My grandfather has no peripheral vision - at all - and he still drives. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.
 
2002-03-18 10:38:01 AM
Walkman, thats interesting, maybe his family is suing.

What we need more of also is just plain stricter testing. I know this girl who is a terrible driver. She is so bad I feel scared every time I see her get in a car. She tok the drivers test something like 5 times before she got the minimum score required. To this day, three years later, she has completely totalled 2 cars, and made messes of a couple others (you'd think her parents would end that).

Fact is, there are people in this world who cannot and should not drive. Like your parents would always say, driving is a privelege not a right. Sure, a person might individually might get inconvenienced by not driving, but do people ever stop and consider what their ineptitude can do to people?

There are millions of gas guzzling, 1000-3000lb vehicles trudging around and one stupid mistake, or not being able to see over the steering wheel, or not being able to see, can cause so much pain.

Take a bus grandma, I'll pay the fare.
 
2002-03-18 10:38:03 AM
Walkman,

My guess is that his family has power of attorney and can act for him in legal matters.

"I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on TV."
 
2002-03-18 10:41:26 AM
With the trade in of your liscense after age 60, you will get a complimentary, top of the line, wheel chair:



Blue arrows not included
 
2002-03-18 10:43:01 AM
Take a bus grandma, I'll pay the fare.

Heh, we HAVE public buses and the old farts STILL refuse to ride them. They cost fifty cents to go anywhere on the system. The bus authority haven't raised the fare in close to twenty years, they can't get anyone to ride, and they want a 30% increase in the property tax levy to add more stops and buses.

They moan and groan that they can't afford more than fifty cents, and then they won't ride them. Ungrateful public money-suckers.
 
2002-03-18 10:44:26 AM
Just wait until these soccer moms in their 12 ton SUV's graduate to Granny.
 
2002-03-18 10:44:35 AM
I like that poll..."Age doesn't matter, ability does". Unfortunately, 60% of the drivers out there lack sufficient ability to deserve a license, and many of these are not senior citizens. We need to start being stricter on who gets a license. It's a privilege, not a right, dammit. I have had friends who were safer drivers drunk than most people are when they're sober. If drunk driving is illegal because it impairs one's ability to drive, then why are drivers who can't drive right to begin with permitted on the road with nothing more than a higher insurance rate, when they can be just as large a threat as some drunk drivers? It makes no sense. Tighten the requirements to get a license, already.

/rant
 
2002-03-18 10:50:15 AM
Hero, indeed. This man is a paragon of common sense.

I deal with these insufferable assholes almost every day here in Florida. They pile into huge luxury cars four at a time to go play bingo or whatever it is that they do; the driver is usually some fool who got his license in the 40s and used public transportation for most of his life in New York City before migrating to Florida, where he and the legions of brainless, ditzy, cell phone toting soccer moms in SUVs now turn the roads into a farking disaster zone waiting to happen.

It never ceases to amaze me how vigorously people will go after drunk drivers, yet it's perfectly acceptable for Hyman H. Goldstein, who can barely see over the steering wheel, to take his 3 drugged-up octogenarian friends out for a Sunday cruise in the sodding Oldsmobile.

Morons.
 
2002-03-18 10:52:07 AM
Whe drivers get to the age of 65 they should be tested yearly IMO to make sure their driving skills aren't slipping with age.
 
2002-03-18 10:52:17 AM
BoCoMoFo--I feel your pain. The same thing pretty much happened to me. I was stopped, and just when I put it into gear she hit me and pushed me into an explorer. I was the only one to recieve damage. Then she tried blaming everything on me when the police report was done. She is lucky I didnt kill her right there.
 
2002-03-18 10:54:14 AM
Ok, so now we all seem to be in agreement here. What do we do now, does anybody have an idea how I might affect things to help this law get passed?
 
2002-03-18 10:59:09 AM
lets go to washington. ROAD TRIP. I will get my grandpop to drive us there.
 
2002-03-18 11:00:48 AM
Allright Sparticus, will he land yacht fit us all?
 
2002-03-18 11:02:41 AM
farking blue hairs!
 
2002-03-18 11:03:03 AM
"When I die, I want to die like my Grandfather: Sleeping Peacefully. Not like the passengers in his car: Kicking and screaming."

-Some Joke I heard
 
2002-03-18 11:05:06 AM
I work in a semi-industrial/residential area which a few seniors homes, a couple years back our secretary drove to the mall at lunch time, as she finished her 2 hour lunch (sorry thats another issue) she backed out and was ready to put her car in drive, this old fart throws his car in reverse backs out and hit her car, they both get out and before our secretary can utter a word the old fart starts yelling, ar eyou blind can't you see where your going? as our secretary raised her head she sees the old guy has his left eyed patched. There was no damage but she was yelled at by the old guy for laughing.
 
2002-03-18 11:05:40 AM
I'm all for road tests for all drivers, any age.

I was hit by an old driving a buick road-yacht. She was 73, half blind, and stubborn.

She told the officer that I was just "coming over that hill" when she turned left across my lane. The officer did quick math, figuring I would have been going about 150 for that too happen. I was going 35 before I swerved trying to avoid her.

Her son and daughter-in-law showed up and admitted to me that she shouldn't be driving, but they could not stop her from doing it.

I say retest all drivers, of any age, on the road every five years.
 
2002-03-18 11:08:01 AM
I had never been in an accident before moving to the Jersey shore, then one day an old git (82) ran a red light and wrote off my car....his reason for doing so? The light was green....despite several witnesses saying it was red.
Suffice to say, he got a ticket, and I got whiplash.



The problem with this area is that because such a large proportion of the population is oldies they don't want to start giving them new test when they reach a certain age. Believe me, the old people run this area.


Another problem with this is that a good percentage of the oldies here don't have NJ as their residence. They all have their winter homes down in FL, and just come up here for the summer, to clog the roads and kill some people. This way these people register the cars in FL, and so don't pay NJ tax on the car, they don't have to send the car through inspection (which is incredibly tough here), and they have their FL drivers licences. Chagning the law in NJ is not going to help when it comes to these people. And on top of this, we have all the clogged roadways with tourist and these summer oldies, yet the oldies are not registered here, and according to the census don't live here, so we don't get census funds for them....AND...why is NJ insurance the most expensive in the country??? OLD PEOPLE
 
2002-03-18 11:08:07 AM
I suppose his family could have power of attorney but it still sounds odd that "his" attorneys are suing and he's in a coma.

Get a law passed? Not likely. This has been hashed out for years and AARP always fights it because "it's age discrimination" and in a way it is. Instead of requiring just elderly people to retake written and road every 1-2 years, why not require every driver to do it? I wouldn't mind higher DL fees because it is a privledge, not a right. I know lots of people who shouldn't be behind the wheel and they're nowhere near retirement age.
 
2002-03-18 11:08:23 AM

Sweet!
 
2002-03-18 11:09:03 AM
I am riding a motorcycle nearly every day, in this area of the country, as many others, we celebrate one holiday in our heart and souls 365 24/7.

That would be non driving SOB day.

We start out being too young to drive safely and go directly to being too damn old. From my perspective the elderly are just another road hazard that, like small children, bicyclists, and pedestrians I watch out for.

Were any of you on cell phones when you were hit?
 
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