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(   Officer shoots disabled man with taser at theme park. The sign clearly said you had to be this tall to ride the ride   ( divider line
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2005-02-16 09:51:27 AM  
I like how they show a picture of a taser gun in the article. "And this is what that scary gun looks like!!! Aren't you frightened?!?!"
2005-02-16 09:55:02 AM  
The officer should have used lethal force.
2005-02-16 10:08:23 AM  
The officer should've used mayonnaise.
2005-02-16 10:09:01 AM  
Are we hearing more about these things because they are becoming more commonly distributed to LE officers or do we have real abuse here?

I'm thinking officers aren't using the same discretion as they would with a gun because these are considered non-lethal. If you shoot someone with a gun in the chest its a little more final.

But this runs contradictory to what I know about LE officers. They are usually well trained and have a little more common sense than the folks they deal with. (Yes, I'm sure there are asshats out there as well.)

This still isn't as bad as the one they shot outside a bar in Orlando. The poor kid got hit in the eye with the barb.

Its bad enough you have a barb stuck in your eye but then you get 10,000 volts as a bonus.
/gives me the heebiest of the jeebies
2005-02-16 10:10:07 AM  
Hey, if they were going to throw his kid out of the park, he probably deserved it. They don't just throw them out for anything. If he raised his kid to do shiat like whatever it was, toss em both out.

/shorter lines for me!
2005-02-16 10:13:24 AM  
I have a stinkin' suspicion that the "victim" in this case wasn't just standing around idly and doing nothing to provoke the mean ole officer.

Something tells me that there may be a hint of exaggeration in his story.

I could be wrong.
2005-02-16 10:32:32 AM  
that headline made me laugh.
2005-02-16 11:18:52 AM  
Why did the disabled guy have a taser gun?

</grammar nazi>
2005-02-16 11:41:11 AM  
Tasers are good for hippies,

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For pranking your friends, too,

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For those goddamned punks who rice their cars,

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Yeah, tasers are good for you.

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Take that, Ionic Breeze,

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Take that, Live Journal,

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Your Tae-Kwan-Do is worthless now,

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You commie pinko liberal.

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2005-02-16 11:48:19 AM  
Sorry Folks, Parks closed. The moose out front should have told ya.
2005-02-16 12:22:26 PM  
Heh, reminds me of this:
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Props to the farker that shopped this one - can't remember who made it but it makes me laugh everytime I see it.
2005-02-16 04:27:05 PM  
Who cares what the man was doing? Law and order is one thing, but using a weapon on a virtually defenseless person is plain wrong. Police officers are trained in non-lethal physical tactics for a reason. I really wish police officers would start getting charged with assault in cases like this.
2005-02-16 04:29:15 PM  
I'd like to hear more than just the "victims" take on what happened. I'm not saying I dont believe him, but from my experiecnce people tend to bend the truth in their favor.

Also it was legal for the off duty office to use the stun gun if the situation warrented it but that doesnt make it ethical. Two seperate issues.
2005-02-16 04:30:20 PM  
You know, even if the kid was seriously doing something wrong, why heck did they taser the guy with the crushed ankles? What's he going to do? Why not taser, I dunno, the kid?
2005-02-16 04:30:42 PM  

Tasers can actually be up to 40k-50k volts.

I think the problems are both that they are being more widely distributed and there is less discretion by some officers. Officers should show much more discretion when using them, though, than they are showing in some of these recent incidents. Those tasers absolutely can trigger a heart attack in people.

The point of tasers is to temporarily disable unruly people. The guy was disabled already. No matter how disruptive the guy might have been, there was no need to taser the guy. He should have been escorted out.

2005-02-16 04:30:48 PM  
We don't know this person was really 'Virtually Defenseless'. This guy looks pretty big. He wasn't rolling around strapped to a wheel chair ala' Hawking. He was probably really being nasty. And his kid had already done someething to cause him to get thrown out of the park. We have only heard one side of the story and already the pacifists are screaming police brutality. Nice.... There are always three sides to a story. The plaintiffs, the defendant and the truth...
2005-02-16 04:30:52 PM  
That's why it's called Flori-duhh

2005-02-16 04:30:53 PM  
this shouldn't surprise anyone, since cops are a$$holes
2005-02-16 04:31:03 PM  
There is not such thing as a non-lethal weapon. Theres lethal and less lethal.
2005-02-16 04:31:29 PM  

2005-02-16 04:33:07 PM  
I can imagine some wit having a whole bunch of fun by starting a rumor that Tasers, specifically, are both going to be reclassified as "deadly weapons" and are going to be outlawed for unregistered ownership. Maybe with a fake "Columbine"-like news story about some kids who modded up the voltage and killed 15 people in their high school by zapping them.

First of all, Taser stock is already taking a beating. Second, the police and prison guard unions get stiffies when they use Tasers, cause they just luv to zap boyz, and third, the pro-gun crowd will see it as a backdoor to registering all firearms. Fun all around. "Taser Control, Inc."
2005-02-16 04:34:54 PM  
Fantastic Headline. rare.
2005-02-16 04:35:39 PM  
Having had ..ahem..a couple not-so-pleasant run-ins with the OPD, I can give testament to just how much a bunch of knuckleheads they really are.
2005-02-16 04:36:17 PM  
Zap the handicapped. It's fun to watch 'em.
2005-02-16 04:36:17 PM  
Terrific headline.

And the little bastard deserved it.

/no he didn't
//going to hell
2005-02-16 04:36:39 PM  
Orlando police say the officer in this case has not been disciplined and even though he was "off-duty,"

Officer Stick-In-The-Mud needs a whoppin. (Or a taser to the nuts)
2005-02-16 04:36:49 PM  
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2005-02-16 04:38:34 PM  
this guy was disabled? I thought they meant mentally...oh wait.
2005-02-16 04:39:41 PM  
"you know the score, pal. if you're not cop, you're little people."
2005-02-16 04:40:27 PM  
So, what was the kid doing that his Dad had to try and keep him from getting kicked out of the park? And how did he go about trying to persuade the officer? I had a friend with 2 (count 'em two) wooden legs that would easily need to be tasered if he decided to cause trouble. Just because this guys ankles are for shiat doesn't mean he can't be menacing or an ass. Of course, my friend with no legs would never go to the media and say 'look at me, I'm disabled and I was repressed'. He wouldn't even get a disabled parking permit.
2005-02-16 04:40:46 PM  
Theres a big difference between "I can't walk" disabled and "I dont ever have to work again" disabled. You can be too fat and be disabled. Crushed ankles sounds pretty awful but that does not preclude this man from acting like a pushy, in your face dick. Maybe he thinks he can get away with it because of his condition. In any case, those parks are infested with cameras and Im sure theres footage of this somewhere. I just wanna see him fly through the ho dog stand, actually. Maybe they will let him have the tape and he can send it in to Americas funniest home videos. That would be a pretty good settlement. A chance at 10 grand.
2005-02-16 04:42:15 PM  
People, take note that only one side of the story has been told (actually, sensationalized). I have a feeling someone is playing the handicapped card to try and get a nice payout from the deep pockets of Universal and the Police Force.

Besides, who wouldn't pay to see a crippled dude fly out of his chair and into a cart.
2005-02-16 04:42:24 PM  
Nickelodeon could take their cameras outside at Universal Florida and do a reality show -- cops tasering paying guests.
2005-02-16 04:44:00 PM  
This is the reason I think that the police and security gaurds should not ever have access to "non-lethal" weapons. Both the weapon user and the weapon usee think "Hey it's only a taser". The officer is more likely to use the taser just to end an unpleasant confrontation, one that under other circumstances might not have even been worth an arrest and the "victim" will be more likely to fight and run. "It's only a beanbag gun or taser". If it was a magnum both sides would be a little more careful.
2005-02-16 04:44:07 PM  

Hey, if they were going to throw his kid out of the park, he probably deserved it. They don't just throw them out for anything. If he raised his kid to do shiat like whatever it was, toss em both out.

/shorter lines for me!

That's not the point. The point is that unless the officer was threatened with impending physical harm, he should stick to diplomacy and not electricity.

The unfortunates side-effect with the proliferation of less-lethal weapons in law inforcement is that they the police seem much quicker to turn to thier weapon as a solution to uncomfortable situations.

Maybe the kid deserved to be ejected, but I sincerely doubt the father deserved getting tazered.
2005-02-16 04:46:47 PM  
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He's comin right for us!
Thin their numbers!
2005-02-16 04:47:44 PM  
I have met some disabled people who I would take a tazer to in a heartbeat if I had one at the time.

I am pretty sure the guy was not calmly trying to pursuade the officer to not kick his son out of the park.

Did the cripple die? No? Fine then, carry on. Next time don't get in someones face, you might get shot instead.
2005-02-16 04:49:39 PM  
I'm still trying to get past "ankles crushed in an elevator accident".

2005-02-16 04:51:09 PM  
"ankles crushed in an elevator accident" = he owed "people" some money & couldnt pay up.
2005-02-16 04:51:35 PM  
Crushed ankles from an elevator accident? I'm thinking the cable broke and the whole thing fell. Ouch! that's gotta hurt! Oh, the taser story? I'll catch the follow up when there's more than just one side being told...
2005-02-16 04:51:41 PM  
Maybe the kid deserved to be ejected, but I sincerely doubt the father deserved getting tazered.

Since we weren't there we don't know for sure do we? Maybe the guy was ramming him with his wheelchair. Just because the guy said he did nothing does not mean it is true.
2005-02-16 04:52:04 PM  
The cops are always right.
2005-02-16 04:53:57 PM  
If universal's security is like Disney's, rest assured there will be security footage of the incident. Also, most police departments that issue Tazers require the officers to be shot with it before they are issued it. So, more than likely this cop knew exactly what he was doing. BTW, I tend to believe the guy deserved it. An off duty cop still has to fill out paperwork for doing this. And rest assured the paperwork alone will take the fun out of buzzing a cripple.
2005-02-16 04:56:25 PM  
I am so sick of that disabled shiat. My grandfather was stricken from Polio at the age of seven and couldn't walk and would never think of calling himself disabled. He went to college, got a degree, and got up and went to work everyday of his life. This asshat is well enough to walk around an amusement park and he's screaming disabled. We are probably paying for his day at the park too cause he probably is on disability. Sorry..don't buy it. I know several asshats who are on complete disability and live better than I do and are perfectly capable of working. Would love to hear the other side of the story.

/well enough to walk around a damn park you ain't disabled
2005-02-16 04:56:46 PM  
"He pulled out his Taser gun and shot me," Traub said. "I was 4 feet away from him on the other side of the ropes."

4 feet? That's within "swinging-crutch" range.

/I'd have taser'd the his arse just for having that porno mustache.
2005-02-16 04:57:31 PM  

Since we weren't there we don't know for sure do we? Maybe the guy was ramming him with his wheelchair. Just because the guy said he did nothing does not mean it is true.

That might be true ... the article was mighty short on facts.

The point I'm trying to make is that the officer in question should be just as reluctant to go to the Tazer, as he would be to go to his bang-bang gun. The fact is that these less-lethal weapons sometimes kill people. (Case in point, the girl in Boston who was shot in the eye with a pepper-spray ball during rowdy celebration following one of the Sox' wins)

If the cop himself or any bystander was in jeopardy of physical harm, fine ... zap the guy. But I suspect that the guy was at worst beligerant and should have been either subdued by other means, or physically escorted from the park.
2005-02-16 04:57:55 PM  
I think the whole thing is a set-up by Disney.
2005-02-16 04:58:48 PM  
I like how the broadcaster is a member of the IBS network.

2005-02-16 04:58:56 PM  
jst3p, suddenly cops aren't the biggest pricks in this thread.
2005-02-16 04:59:10 PM  
It could have been worse. He could've given the guy the shocker instead...
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