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(Popular Science)   New Popular Science article begs NASA to finally send astronauts to Mars   (popsci.com) divider line 117
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2002-03-12 02:49:28 PM  
I'd go.....


ummm......

nevermind
 
2002-03-12 02:49:44 PM  
NASA's working on it. They're hoping to do it around 2015 or 2020.
 
2002-03-12 02:50:06 PM  
lets build a moon base and then move on to mars.
 
2002-03-12 02:51:18 PM  
wow, that would be a LOT of airmiles.
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2002-03-12 02:51:22 PM  
Someone tell Popular Science to fund it themselves, then, instead of begging NASA to steal the necessary funds from the taxpayers.
 
2002-03-12 02:51:52 PM  
Where's my Moon base, I want one. But Err and Ignignon may be waiting there with a Quad Laser
 
2002-03-12 02:52:14 PM  
Right on DoubleGGuy.
 
2002-03-12 02:52:47 PM  
NASA lacks a mission-in the larger sense of that word. If the agency does not act soon, it stands to become a relic of the 20th century.

I say let bin Laden and 'da boyz be their "assignment", let's see some fireworks from the sky towards terrorism.
 
2002-03-12 02:53:11 PM  
I think the ISS is great, but It's going to become a huge burden on their budget as well as their image. Until it drops out of the sky, NASA's hands are pretty much tied.
 
2002-03-12 02:54:12 PM  
DoubleGguy -- Nasa spends something like 20 billion a year. That is nothing compared to defense etc. As a taxpayer I want my money going to build moon bases and mars probes.
 
2002-03-12 02:54:35 PM  
It's not "stealing taxpayers money", it's "boldly going where no man has gone before"! Where’s your sense of adventure? Please don’t say in your wallet!
 
2002-03-12 02:54:47 PM  
NASA just needs to change its strategy. Many scientists have put forth the idea of having astronauts get the fuel for their return trip from Mars itself and/or leaving parts of the landing vehicle behind on the surface that double as living quarters or shelter. Such places can be used by future missions, helping to lay the groundwork for a "base" on Mars.
 
2002-03-12 02:54:56 PM  
Who here believes in Manifest Destiny?
 
2002-03-12 02:55:52 PM  
I don't see the problem here. Just go back to the soundstage, replace the gray dust with red dust, and VOILA!!! Instant Mars landing.
 
2002-03-12 02:57:28 PM  

When will NASA ever reach that monolith on the moon ? Someone needs to go to them and beat them on the head with a hipbone. At this point Nasa isn't capable enough to plant a flag inside a Planet Hollywood.


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2002-03-12 02:58:22 PM  
You guys might like to know that ord is undefined.
 
2002-03-12 02:59:36 PM  
Don't they watch shiatty 50s science fiction? Or shiatty 90s science fiction, for that matter? Going to Mars causes nothing but problems.

Then again, I'm all for anything that causes Tim Robbins to shrivel up into frozen blue zombie-looking corpse thing.
 
2002-03-12 03:01:49 PM  
I admit that I don't follow NASA,....but fuel from Mars? Sounds like a bad idea to have an interplanetary gas-station on the red-planet.
 
2002-03-12 03:02:48 PM  
I say screw Mars. Let's spend some cash sending Mork back to Ork.

Shazbot. Nanoo Nanoo.
 
2002-03-12 03:03:22 PM  
Mars or Bust!

I'd pay for the whole thing personally, if I had the dough...
 
2002-03-12 03:03:32 PM  
I admit that I don't follow NASA,....but fuel from Mars? Sounds like a bad idea to have an interplanetary gas-station on the red-planet.
 
2002-03-12 03:05:05 PM  
kewl
 
2002-03-12 03:05:42 PM  
Why not just send a Mars to the Astronauts. I seems a lot easier.
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2002-03-12 03:05:42 PM  
Catapultic
do you ever use DevStudio?
(I get the same message)
it causes the ads not to load (if you notice)


back on topic:

Remember, the money used to investigate how to go to space/moon/mars always leads to technicological advances
that improve human quality of life.
Remove NASA and you lose the need to do some of that research. Many advances are NOT made by seeking that
advance, rather through the humdrum research done to
achieve other technologies.

(think: Microwaves. Also, some advances on human eye
understanding were made through research on FISH)

back offtopic
We should spraypaint '1337' on Mars. That would be neato.
 
2002-03-12 03:07:23 PM  
Point of article: NASA's rockets have gone limp...space program needs Viagra.

So NASA's job is to entertain and inspire? I thought that was Bono's job...

*runs away with head covered*
 
2002-03-12 03:09:44 PM  
As much as I support the space program, there's no way I'd climb into a ship and fly to Mars. NASA has a hard enough time getting orbiting satellites to Mars.
 
2002-03-12 03:10:33 PM  
Are they talking about the same NASA that can't even manage to keep the ISS within budget (which, for the record, orbits this planet)? The same NASA which can't convert to metric (not that I blame them, the French invented it I think).

Riiiiiiight. Why can't we get private enterprise to do this?
 
2002-03-12 03:18:44 PM  
I was reading an article in Astounding about just this subject; the fact that NASA doesn't have an ounce of the Romance, of the will to do what people call impossible, that it had in its inception. Interesting article; it also mentioned that the Russians have always had this kind of passion about their space program. Of course how many people write to their senators and representatives asking them to push more funding to NASA? In the long term, though, it's the commercial progress that needs to be pushed; let DuPont start building factories in orbit, and I'll be you that they'd put a lot more research funds into making better, cheaper launch mediums!
 
2002-03-12 03:19:24 PM  
dont waste my tax money on this, feed poor kids or something, just dont do this
 
2002-03-12 03:20:11 PM  
No, I won't be you, but I will bet you
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2002-03-12 03:20:18 PM  
One proposal on how future Farkonauts will stay in contact with home base:

www.ipnsig.org/home.htm
 
2002-03-12 03:21:11 PM  
well, i have a sense of adventure, but why pay for it with tax money, when it would be easier to go someplace else and get it....
 
2002-03-12 03:21:30 PM  
I say go right now! Cause I'm sick of the "Look it is a face on Mars, obvious evidence of intelligent life." "And look here is an enhanced photo, ohh, ahhhhhhhh!!!" "And here you can actually see our ancient Egyptian Ancestors waving." "And way have all our probes disappeared?"

JUST GO farkING FIND OUT WHAT IT IS INSTEAD OF FIGHTING ABOUT IT, CAUSE THERE IS NO WAY TO BE SURE UNTIL YOU GO THERE. SHUT UP!!!!!!

(Knock, knock)
"Wow, who do you think that is?"
"I don't know"
"Maybe it is the pizza guy?"
"Yeah, or my neihbor"
"Let's listen closer next time."
"ok"
(Knock, knock)
"There it is again, definitly the pizza guy"
"No, no way it's the mailman"
"Your stupid, that sounded nothing like the mailman."
"Your stupid I have a degree in hearing."
"But I definitly smell anchovies?"
"I farted."
"Ohh.. haha!"
"That was funny."
"Let's listen again."
"OK"
(Knock, knock)
"That time it sounded like Jehova Witness"
"I agree"
"They suck"
"Yeah"
"Man, someday way in the future we may actually know for sure who is knocking at the door."
"Your dreaming man"
"Seriously dude"
"fark You!"
"No man I was reading Popular Science and they said they are working on door opening technology"
"Dude, that is science fiction man."
(Knock, knock)
...
...
...
(Knock, knock)
 
2002-03-12 03:22:30 PM  
We choose to do this thing because we don't want to do that other thing.

"the astronauts will face dangerous radiation, bone loss, and the rigors of living in a confined space with no privacy"
That happened to me once, but my girlfriend said it just happens sometimes. As far as the other two, sounds like NYC.

oh, and 2001 kicks ass!!!!!
 
2002-03-12 03:22:57 PM  
Although Mars is a laudable goal, I say put it on the back burner for now and immediately begin work on a permanent moon base. We could have one up and running in a year, maybe two. The moon is close, it's potentially exploitable (which means we will get our money back) and in case of an emergency, a creditable rescue effort could be mounted.

If America had been a 3-day trip back in the time of Columbus it would have been completely colonized in a year. What are we waiting for?
 
2002-03-12 03:24:41 PM  
Clearly, a trip to Rigel 7 would be more useful...
 
2002-03-12 03:24:50 PM  
As a taxpayer, I gladly contribute to the space program.
 
2002-03-12 03:25:50 PM  
ord

\Ord\, n. [AS. ord point.] An edge or point; also, a beginning. [ Obs. or Prov. Eng.] --Chaucer.
 
2002-03-12 03:26:22 PM  
I'll go. Sign my ass up.
 
2002-03-12 03:26:22 PM  
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2002-03-12 03:27:30 PM  
clambam Good point, puts it in perspective. However, the settlers were reasonably sure that if things went haywire in the New World they'd still be able to breath. On the other hand, we are reasonably sure there are no dangerous indigenous peoples on the moon.
...OR ARE THERE?!!!
 
2002-03-12 03:28:43 PM  
Judging by some of the Farkers around here, I'd say humans have been to Mars already.
 
2002-03-12 03:28:43 PM  
"Remember, the money used to investigate how to go to space/moon/mars always leads to technicological advances
that improve human quality of life."

At what astronomical cost though? (no pun intended)
The billions upon billions that NASA has spent bringing us such modern marvels as the microwave, TANG, and that dried up ice cream crap coulda been spent a whole lot more efficiently in the private sector.
 
2002-03-12 03:30:09 PM  
No! NASA can't send a person to Mars, somebody might get hurt! That's a reference to Challenger; people go into space knowing the risks, and when they die NASA shuts down for years. Stupid. NASA will never make it to Mars.
 
2002-03-12 03:30:58 PM  
even if nasa don't send anyone to mars within the next decade/century, that doesn't mean NO one's going to mars. there's other countries, other space organizations . . . china's building rockets now. just wait 'til china announces that IT'S going to mars, and nasa will get off it's lazy ass pretty damn fast.

anyway, who's to stop private investors and corporations from getting together and sending someone to mars? that's where all the money's at, anyway, and a whole LOT of those corporations are run by people who would just LOVE to help get to mars. just for the sheer farking joy of it.

what's billions of dollars GOOD for if you can't get something that no one else has?
 
2002-03-12 03:31:44 PM  
Money doesn't disappear (unless you work at Enron), those billions upon billions go back into the economy.
 
2002-03-12 03:33:17 PM  
They need to do something really shocking...something no one expects. I'd support sending Ashcroft to the sun!
 
2002-03-12 03:33:41 PM  
Start with a moon base. Tourism, super-secure storage.. whatever you want, just make it useful. Learn from it and move towards Mars.

I'd much rather my tax dollars went to NASA than much of the other crap it goes to.
 
2002-03-12 03:33:55 PM  
The greatest prose that has ever been written
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2002-03-12 03:34:36 PM  
How long before the Disney/Vatican/Microsoft conglomerate purchases the Moon and begins to breed "the perfect race" (just like Moonraker!), honestly?
 
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