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(NYPost)   NYC cops capture teen who shot and killed actress last week. Suspect "was whining like a little girl" when arrested   (nypost.com) divider line 327
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2005-02-01 08:23:36 AM
This kid should be shot in the head and all of his friends should be put in jail forever and ever.

/that's all
 
2005-02-01 08:38:20 AM
IMlifelike

This kid should be shot in the head and all of his friends should be put in jail forever and ever.

They all should be shot in the guts and left to die screaming for murdering a woman who was working to make something of herself.
 
2005-02-01 08:39:06 AM
bubba is getting a new sex slave
i would cry tooooooooooo
 
2005-02-01 08:39:41 AM
I say we hang em, then we shoot em, and then we hang em again!
 
2005-02-01 08:39:49 AM
You've got to wonder why they didn't charge the accomplices -- the non-shooters -- with felony murder.

I mean, someone dies in the course of an armed robbery -- that looks like farking felony murder to me...
 
2005-02-01 08:40:27 AM
Yeah, because capital punishment sure does something! All those European countries with no capital punishment and lower crimes rates, they-wait-let me rephrase that...
 
2005-02-01 08:40:43 AM
Whiny biatch.
It's the NYPOST, but I'm glad they caught the punk.
Lock him up. Fo-eva.
 
2005-02-01 08:40:45 AM
If NYC would allow law abiding citizens to obtain concealed weapons permits this sort of abuse and violence would not be so easy to pull off.

/why I moved
 
2005-02-01 08:41:51 AM
Both his family, for turning him in and feeling bad about what he did and her family, for their praise of the cops and lack of calls for death, get the tag in my book. As do the NYPD, but that's pretty much par for the course for those guys.
 
2005-02-01 08:41:54 AM
2005-02-01 08:40:45 AM l.i.m.b.o.t.h.e.l.a.w

If NYC would allow law abiding citizens to obtain concealed weapons permits this sort of abuse and violence would not be so easy to pull off.

/why I moved


Thats a great idea, lets have a city of 15 million people have concealed weapons!

My morning commute would be so great.

Good riddance.
 
2005-02-01 08:42:25 AM
Aside from reinforcing the fact that this kid is a worthless POS, the one thing this article does is demonstrate how the New York Post is not a real source of journalism.

/not that I ever thought that it was
 
2005-02-01 08:43:05 AM
Waste of oxygen punk.
 
2005-02-01 08:43:23 AM
Smookyfufu

I guess you're not a John Lott fan...
 
2005-02-01 08:43:30 AM
I'm no bleeding heart Liberal and i would wish to be somewhat balanced and objective in my comments, so....
hanging used to be pretty effective
 
2005-02-01 08:44:35 AM
Not to discount her family's suffering and the magnitude of the crime ( +++brought to you with PlatitudeRite 2.3+++ )

but:

DuFresne, a Minnesota native, told the thug, "What are you going to do, shoot us?"

=

 
2005-02-01 08:44:42 AM
I guess he'll be squealing like a pig pretty soon.
 
2005-02-01 08:46:28 AM
What are they going to do, shoot him?
 
2005-02-01 08:46:49 AM
EwokHunter: I say we hang em, then we shoot em, and then we hang em again!

i say we stomp 'em, then we tattoo 'em, then we hang 'em, and then we kill him !
 
2005-02-01 08:47:08 AM
If NYC would allow law abiding citizens to obtain concealed weapons permits this sort of abuse and violence would not be so easy to pull off.


You're right. You'd get passing bystanders getting accidentally shot and tourists asking for directions going home in body bags. And realistically, if you've got a gun in your face reaching for your gun probably isn't the smartest move.

/flame on
 
2005-02-01 08:47:15 AM
They got him? good.
Don't let him out this time.
Pull a gun on 4 cops in NY (these days) = 2 yrs in the clink
Pull a gun on 4 cops anywhere else = eating lead
 
2005-02-01 08:48:13 AM
Death is to good for a guy like this. Let him spend the rest of his useless life being someones bit<h in prison, and hating the day he was born into this world. Bring back hard labor prison camps.
 
2005-02-01 08:48:16 AM
Yes, this is a tragedy and the thug should be put away forever or executed (but in NY that won't happen).

That being said however...she may still be alive today if it weren't for her lack of common sense. It's never a bright idea for someone being held at gunpoint to ask the gunman "What are you going to do, shoot me?" The obvious answer, at least coming from a sociopathic thug, is "Yes!".
 
2005-02-01 08:48:40 AM
From experience in Europe, I've noticed that the most likely reason for a higher crime rate over here is not due to guns, but due to the greater emphasis on drug prevention. Granted, there's less shooting deaths, but a higher amount of stabbings and various other ways of killing people. But in Europe, they have a much more relaxed attitude towards drugs, stopping real crime groups from becoming large...without the natural selection over here, they are fat, lazy, and tend not to cause problems.

Well, all this applies to western Europe, with my experience being Germany, Holland, and England, though I've heard France is much the same. In eastern Europe (Hungary most notably), there's a very strong nationalist attitude, they charge metric assloads for any foreigners at a store. Something that costs 400 forints would be 1000 forints for a customer. You only get the reduced price if you speak Hungarian, basically. They have a sense of solidarity which would prevent random murders, only saving those for a special occasion.

Aside from England (which is almost as scary then Japan), there's also little celebrity worship, so this kind of thing rarely happens. Except Germans and David Hasselhof. I still don't get it.
 
2005-02-01 08:48:43 AM
is this her?

http://www.nicoledufresne.com/
 
2005-02-01 08:48:57 AM
Or, maybe if there were no guns all together, we wouldn't have this sort of problem. I suppose there would still be rocks, and boards with nails in it, but those are must easier to defend yourself against.
 
2005-02-01 08:49:26 AM
2005-02-01 08:43:23 AM Litig8r

Smookyfufu

I guess you're not a John Lott fan...


I like guns. I plan on owning one when I own a home. However, lets be realistic. Every morning we're packed into trains like sardines. I feel like pushing people onto the tracks. I can imagine people shooting each other over seats and going crazy. It's just not feasible to have a city this size armed in a concealed fashion. Besides, have you been to lower Manhattan? It's hard to pull off a robbery with armed marines and police officers with assault rifles and barracades.

On the other hand, at least people would stop wearing Red Sox hats in NYC. ;)
 
2005-02-01 08:49:39 AM

Sorry wanna-be thug piece of shiat. This is the face of a woman determined to fulfill all of her dreams.
 
2005-02-01 08:49:51 AM
TheGlasgowKiss: is this her?
http://www.nicoledufresne.com/


yes.
 
2005-02-01 08:50:19 AM
"I'm sorry for what happened. I didn't know it was going to happen. I had nothing to do with it," Simmon said as he was led out of the Seventh Precinct station house last night.

Riiiight. You didn't know it was going to happen (which means you were there and saw what was going on), but you had nothing to do with it.
/voting guilty!
 
2005-02-01 08:51:22 AM
Or, maybe if there were no guns all together, we wouldn't have this sort of problem. I suppose there would still be rocks, and boards with nails in it, but those are must easier to defend yourself against.

...and don't forget bananas, rasberries, of course the legalization of 160 ton weights would definately solve the rasberry problem.
 
2005-02-01 08:51:57 AM
AppleRulesMicrosoftSucks:

Or, maybe if there were no guns all together, we wouldn't have this sort of problem. I suppose there would still be rocks, and boards with nails in it, but those are must easier to defend yourself against.


Too late. They exist. Can't wish 'em away. We have to deal with 'em. And even if it were possible to stop the manufacture of all firearms, which it isn't, it's not too hard to make a zipgun. In a world with no real guns, the guy who bothered to make a zipgun wins.
 
2005-02-01 08:51:58 AM
2005-02-01 08:47:15 AM Rascalian

They got him? good.
Don't let him out this time.
Pull a gun on 4 cops in NY (these days) = 2 yrs in the clink
Pull a gun on 4 cops anywhere else = eating lead


Your knowledge of NY law is astounding. However, it's actually 2 and a half years if you pull a gun on 4 cops. Get it right.

2005-02-01 08:48:16 AM Nik Hatha

Yes, this is a tragedy and the thug should be put away forever or executed (but in NY that won't happen).

It's murder 2. It wasn't pre-meditated. And the death penalty is ineffective anyway.
 
2005-02-01 08:53:38 AM

Thats a great idea, lets have a city of 15 million people have concealed weapons!

My morning commute would be so great.


Works in Houston.
And Dallas.
And San Antonio.
And Austin.
etc...
 
2005-02-01 08:55:47 AM
"Fleming was busted at the St. George Ferry Terminal in Staten Island at around midnight yesterday after being fingered by his relatives for fatally shooting duFresne, 28, during an amateurish robbery on Manhattan's Lower East Side early last Thursday."
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Gotta love it when your family "drops a dime" on you.

/hope he enjoys "tossing the salad"
 
2005-02-01 08:56:24 AM
2005-02-01 08:53:38 AM kurfu

I'm sorry, but the population of Houston, Dallas, and bumfark Texas isn't 15 million.. Houston has a population of almost 2 million people. Dallas has just over a million people.
 
2005-02-01 08:56:29 AM
Kill this guy to make sure no activist judge decides he is "rehabilitated" and lets him out.

Life without parole? Seems only federal time is like that. Maybe it is time for murder to be considered a federal offense.
 
2005-02-01 08:56:46 AM
Another case of things not to say to an armed robber


"What are you gonna do? Shoot me?"
 
2005-02-01 08:56:54 AM
The kid should fry. Waste of oxygen. We need a three strikes and we kill you law.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-02-01 08:57:21 AM
It's murder 2. It wasn't pre-meditated.

He's charged with first degree murder and second degree murder according to the linked article.

Under the law where I live (maybe not in NYC) he would be guilty of first degree murder based on the felony-murder doctrine and probably also premeditation. Here, premeditation does not mean planning. It means the killer had time to think, and did think about what he was doing, before he killed.
 
2005-02-01 08:59:17 AM
Man, up north everyone really does have an attitude problem. Even the newspaper writers make no reservations in their actions. I guess the papers really are written at a 5th grade reading level.

"Police yesterday busted a paroled teen punk...but the crybaby put on his own performance, moaning and complaining that he was sick"
"station house after being slapped with charges..."


So much for non-ojective reporting.
 
2005-02-01 08:59:27 AM
There are some spooky parallels that hit close to home with this story...

DuFresne = 28 years old
My wife = 28 years old

DuFresne = aspiring actress
My wife = aspiring actress

DuFresne = a few feature roles, various theatre roles
My wife = a few feature roles, various theatre roles

DuFresne = NYC resident to pursue acting
My wife (and I) = moving to NYC for her to pursue acting

/should I be worried?
 
2005-02-01 09:00:06 AM
We'll be reading about his "great skills as a writer" in a few years.


/trying to stay ahead of the curve.
 
2005-02-01 09:00:08 AM
l.i.m.b.o.t.h.e.l.a.w:

If NYC would allow law abiding citizens to obtain concealed weapons permits this sort of abuse and violence would not be so easy to pull off.

/why I moved


Great, so instead of one tragic death, we would be reading about the deaths of many more caught in the crossfire.
 
2005-02-01 09:00:11 AM
I never watched "Bowling for Columbine". In fact, i've never watched a Michael Moore movie, though i'm often accused of loving him for some reason.
 
2005-02-01 09:00:38 AM
Jimbo the Slightly Impressive


Yeah, because capital punishment sure does something! All those European countries with no capital punishment and lower crimes rates, they-wait-let me rephrase that...
________________________________________________________


well, i know this is going to get ugly but Capital punishment is just that. a punishment. not a deterrent. its handed out for the people who can't hack it in regular society because they are a threat to the public. the hang up about it is that we're just as brutal as the criminals...so its a moral thing i suppose.

but whenever people bring up the fact that it doesn't lower crime etc. well no shiat...

I think the death penalty is approrpiate in some cases. for this case? well the trial would have to decide that. and i'm uncertain as to if Florida has the death penalty these days.

but this isn't one of those instances where we're not sure who commited the crime as the other popular anti-death penalty comment usually goes back to accusing the wrong guy (what with DNA evidence and all..Guy Paul Morin (sp?) anyone?)

here we have a confession to a rather senseless act. call me as bad as the criminals in this case but i tend to subscribe to the eye for an eye thing. don't do the crime if you can't do the time..whatever other cliche you want to apply.

as for this kids crocadile tears..i'd be pretty upset too if i was going off to jail for a long time.


i'm not a blood thirsty guy or anything i just think fair is fair in some cases. this murder strikes me as a rather senseless and brutal act.
 
2005-02-01 09:01:18 AM
Smookyfufu

That would surely prevent any other crime like this from happening. You should become a judge with that sort of knack for the law.

You gotta be a shyster before you can be a real judge, you know. Besides, what would the press make of some long-haired hanging judge who traded in his gavel for a sledgehammer, and sentenced murderers to the iron maiden?
 
2005-02-01 09:01:47 AM
Man, I would so love an excuse to pack one of these:



Unfortunately I just can't come up with one.
 
2005-02-01 09:02:49 AM
Shot DuFresne, huh?

I guess he'll be the only innocent man in Shawshank.
 
2005-02-01 09:02:51 AM
Smookyfufu

It's murder 2. It wasn't pre-meditated. And the death penalty is ineffective anyway.

Actually, IIRC in New York it's Murder 1 if the murder is committed in the commission of another felony; so by that logic this kid is farked, cuz he was committing a felony (assault, robbery, take your pick), AND killed someone.

/watches way too much Law and Order
 
2005-02-01 09:02:56 AM
and please forgive any spelling mistakes contained in my post. i know how sensitive some of you are to Typos.
 
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