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2005-01-30 03:58:53 PM
SSNPguerrilla:

Yay, we're spreading our form of government to the dark people! Kinda reminds me of how the USSR wanted to spread Communism to free people of capitalist dictatorships.

Except the difference between us and the Soviets is...that we're right and they're wrong. Just like we worship the right God, and the brown people worship the wrong one. Next step after spreading democracy to them (kinda sounds like spreading an STD, don't it?), we can spread our religion. Because in the end, white people are always right.
 
2005-01-30 03:59:50 PM
CLINTON! GORE!
 
2005-01-30 04:00:04 PM
Put your money where your mouth is.
If you think this war is such a good idea then give up your social security.
Oh wait, Bush is doing that anyway.
 
2005-01-30 04:00:07 PM
I, for one, welcome the new democratically elected Iraqi Overlords.

haws83

Both sides of the aisle thought there were WMDs prior to the war, Kerry and Bush both, both received poor intelligence.

Utterly correct, but you seem to imply that Kerry had independent sources. The fact is that ALL the intelligence was filtered, to both sides of the aisle, through the Bush Administration, who, whenever pressed for any details, clammed up and said, "Sorry, we cannot share any more with you without compromising our sources. Just trust us."

Sure, a lot of Dems voted for war based on bad intelligence, but it was Bush's intelligence -- sorry if that made anyone laugh, I'm not buying any new keyboards.

I, for one, genuinely hope things there work out, and I am not rooting for any American casualties or failures. I am rooting for the same thing in this country, where I have even less hope.
 
2005-01-30 04:00:21 PM
There is something very noble about what our troops, those people on the ground and the Iraqis themselves have done but it is also overshadowed by the farkers in the Bush Administration.
 
B82
2005-01-30 04:00:25 PM
The insurgents will never end up running Iraq, no matter when America leaves. They are mostly Sunni while the majority of Iraq is Shiite. In a fair fight, the Shiites would end up massacring any new Saddam-like Sunni warlord.
 
2005-01-30 04:00:44 PM
This may have been a faulty war, but at least this is something positive to come from it. This is a great step to getting the American Troops home to safety, without compromising the Iraqi people and their security.

Congratulations to all the people who dared to go vote today, and to all the Soldiers who risked their life, protecting their right to do so.
 
2005-01-30 04:01:08 PM
02:30:40 PM Buckshot: There are LOTS of dictatorships out there, will we be freeing all of them now?

Well ... yeah. When Iraq is in hand, there's going to be lots of low-hanging fruit to reap, such as Iran. We won't even have to invade in most cases. Just having a prosperous, democratic nation in the neighborhood is going to make a lot of people wonder why they can't vote and have a satellite TV receiver. We'll be doing all we can to encourage that line of thinking.
 
2005-01-30 04:01:14 PM
LawrencePerson
It's simply undeniable at this point that many liberals want to see Democracy in Iraq fail rather than see Bush suceed. Just listen to the liberals themselves:

Many? You linked to Democratic Underground. They are widely regarded as nutjobs. You, however, are simply an asshat.
 
2005-01-30 04:01:44 PM
Now they know who to assassinate.
 
2005-01-30 04:02:24 PM
WHERE ARE THE HUMAN SHEILDS?

If you recall, before the war in Iraq. A group of left-wing hippy liberals went to Iraq to stand infront of hospitals, schools, ect... to try to stop the United States from bombing those targets.


So, where are the Human Sheilds who will stand next to the man or woman, who is trying to gain freedom? Do they not think the school that was used as a warehouse for bombs is not a valuable of a target as a man or woman who wishes to vote?
 
2005-01-30 04:02:47 PM
I am so happy for those people. Been through hell since the 70's, now they get some freedom. All geopolitial analysis aside, you've gotta remember that.

Regardless of which side of the fence you sit on, you have to admit this is a landmark day for them and for the middle east.
 
2005-01-30 04:02:47 PM
you know, this kinda reminds me of the election the Israeli's had in Lebanon when they invaded. It was "a resounding success" considering we were under military occupation. Thank god my party assasinated the president that the Israeli's...err Lebanese elected.
 
2005-01-30 04:03:12 PM
Buckshot,

> "Freeing" the Iraqi people became the buzz phrase once no WMDs were found. American soldiers were still killed for a false cause.

Well, a lot of people forget why wars are originally fought and tend to think of the end result. A lot of people believe the American Civil War was always a crusade to end slavery and I'm sure there are several who think WWII was fought to end the extermination of European Jews.

> "And Iraq is a protectorate now. They have no military, no defense, no nothing. The second we leave, they're toast. The new government will never ask us to leave. We still have no exit strategy."

That's pretty-much like everywhere else we "won" wars in the 20th century. Apparently we had no "exit strategy" for Germany and South Korea, either--because we're still there. That's why all the talk of "Fark it, let's just leave!" is even more irresponsible than starting a war under (arguably) questionable motives.

Not finishing things we start is what got us into trouble in Vietnam and why we've had to go into Iraq yet again.

We stay until the job is finished, that's all.
 
2005-01-30 04:03:20 PM
I'm Canadian. I didn't care about the WMD scare cause I never felt it. I never felt endangered, but I still supported the War on Iraq for the liberation, because I believe freedom is very important. This news has made me very happy. Go Bush. Don't let me down.
 
2005-01-30 04:03:29 PM
Happy Birthday, Iraq!
 
2005-01-30 04:03:46 PM
 
2005-01-30 04:03:47 PM
The President said,

"Theres an important principle here.... While there may well be a great deal of ethnic and religious conflict in the world ... whether within or beyond the borders of a country, if the world community has the power to stop it, we ought to stop genocide and ethnic cleansing."

Oh wait.. that's what Clinton said after dropping 20,000 bombs on the Serbian military.

/please form two lines
/red vs blue
 
2005-01-30 04:03:47 PM
Now, let us sit back and see if a democratically elected government is able to hold the country together, and not forget our failed experiment in Afghanistan, which is a warzone to this very day.

It is wonderful news that the elections went off without a major disaster, but I would caution everyone to wait and see who the Iraqi people have elected and whether they actually have a mandate before waving victory flags and celebrating a job-well-done. It is very likely that the outcome of this election will be civil war and heightened conflict, started by the Shi'ites if even the tiniest bit of influence is granted to the Sunni minority, or by the Sunni's if the Shia are given hegemony. Throughout the whole Iraq quagmire, no one has given serious thought to the Kurds, either. What if they demand their autonomy or declare their independence?

It is truely a good day, especially if you were backing George Dumbass Bush's warmongery, but wait and see before you get even more smug.
 
2005-01-30 04:03:51 PM
Bush won the election!! hahahahahaha!
 
2005-01-30 04:03:54 PM
I don't think there is anyone who wishes ill will to the Iraqis on this day. Everyone hopes the voting went well.

/Let's try not to let this devolve into a radical rightie fapping thread (i.e. 'liberals want the terrorists to win', etc.)
 
B82
2005-01-30 04:04:32 PM
LawrencePerson

I think the DU administrators deleted that thread. They don't usually like to reveal in public how much they disdain the democratic process when the vote doesn't agree with their POV.
 
2005-01-30 04:04:46 PM
Thedrunkpug
stand in front of hospitals

Part of the geneva convention protects hospitals unless it is being used as a base or a storage for weapons, etc.
 
2005-01-30 04:05:01 PM
thedrunkpug
So, where are the Human Sheilds who will stand next to the man or woman, who is trying to gain freedom? Do they not think the school that was used as a warehouse for bombs is not a valuable of a target as a man or woman who wishes to vote?

don't be silly. human shields might work when the US is bombing, since the US military doesn't like to kill US citizens. but insurgents/terrorists don't give a shiat about human shields, and may actually be more liable to attack if Americans were standing around.
 
2005-01-30 04:05:11 PM
Oops, sorry for the double post. Feel free to delete one.
 
2005-01-30 04:05:55 PM
The problem is Churchy,

they do want the terriorst to win so they can post there george bush photoshops for the 100000000000000000000000 time
 
2005-01-30 04:06:01 PM
TheDrunkPug,

If you recall, before the war in Iraq. A group of left-wing hippy liberals went to Iraq to stand infront of hospitals, schools, ect... to try to stop the United States from bombing those targets.

So, where are the Human Sheilds who will stand next to the man or woman, who is trying to gain freedom? Do they not think the school that was used as a warehouse for bombs is not a valuable of a target as a man or woman who wishes to vote?


That is quite possibly the best point I've seen this week.

They are there my good sir...US Marines and Army Rangers came in to help them because they were abandoned by the rest of the world and no one would help them.
 
2005-01-30 04:06:21 PM
2005-01-30 04:04:32 PM B82

I think the DU administrators deleted that thread. They don't usually like to reveal in public how much they disdain the democratic process when the vote doesn't agree with their POV.


LOL. Leave it to B82 to come out swinging with his twisted views. : ) (Fap, fap, fap)
 
2005-01-30 04:06:24 PM
Day-to-day life will not change much in Iraq, soon anyway. But man, I tell you, those pictures of brave people waving blue fingers brings tears to my eyes.

I feel great for the coalition soldiers too, this is a wonderful day for them. I hope the families of those we lost can draw some comfort from this.
 
2005-01-30 04:06:32 PM
How did I miss this getting the greenlight? Actually, probably because I was reading the other flamewar (I doubt it has been greened though).

LawrencePerson:

It's simply undeniable at this point that many liberals want to see Democracy in Iraq fail rather than see Bush suceed. Just listen to the liberals themselves:

"The Iraq vote is making me sick this morning...I can't believe the Iraqis are buying into this 'democracy' bullshiat."


Yes, because 1-5 posts are representative of hundreds of thousands of people. You, sir, are a farking moron.
 
2005-01-30 04:06:45 PM
stonent: Oops, sorry for the double post. Feel free to delete one.

It's actually funnier with both of them in there.
 
2005-01-30 04:07:47 PM
 
2005-01-30 04:08:16 PM
You know what we need? One of those "Survey" threads for returning Iraq soldiers to tell THEIR side of the story. I'm tired of all the media bias, let's get some real information!
 
2005-01-30 04:08:19 PM
stonent

There was a glitch in the matrix. It happens when they change something.
 
2005-01-30 04:08:42 PM
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2005-01-30 04:09:18 PM
farkdog:

Do we really need to cover the bullshiat party line again. The major reason we went into Iraq was because of alleged WMDs. It was the main selling point and the one that the administration propagandized the American people with.

selling point, maybe...

but how many people would have ok'd it if Bush said we were going in only to up-hold Clinton's Iraq Liberation Act

 
B82
2005-01-30 04:09:25 PM
Churchy LaFemme

Hey, the truth hurts.
 
2005-01-30 04:10:15 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong- aren't there dozens, if not hundreds of people running for the same office? Hmmm... Iraq + leaders that the vast majority of the country doesn't want there = trouble.

Assuming the democratic process stays around until the next election, a lot of those minority groups will group up behind one candidate to win. I guess that's how the two party system evolved here, it guarantees that the smallest amount of people are upset with the outcome.

Sorry if I'm repeating the obvious to anyone, just never really thought about it.
 
2005-01-30 04:10:18 PM
Did the Sunnis vote much? Nope. A resounding success.. bah. But I must say that the Iraqis voting is a hell of a lot better than the alternative.
 
2005-01-30 04:10:19 PM
First brick.
 
2005-01-30 04:10:39 PM
Do you realize that your hero is the only president in the history of this country to have this country invade and occupy another country without a declaration of war. Vietnam and Korea my friend don't count here, neither do Grenada or Panama.

Yeah, he is pretty efficient and gets the ball rolling rather quickly.
 
2005-01-30 04:11:16 PM
If you think that Iraq is going to suddenly become a stable, wealthy, independent nation, with a government favorably disposed towards the U.S., then please report to the Federal Witless Protection Program for reassignment.
 
2005-01-30 04:12:01 PM
LawrencePerson

It's simply undeniable at this point that many liberals want to see Democracy in Iraq fail rather than see Bush suceed.

As a frequent Bush basher, I hope I'm entirely wrong about Bush's policies.
 
2005-01-30 04:12:08 PM
Here's a copy of the ballot.
 
2005-01-30 04:12:13 PM
robolobo: Yeah, he is pretty efficient and gets the ball rolling rather quickly.

I know. I'd say that's pretty impressive.
 
Ox
2005-01-30 04:12:26 PM
First all the sheep believed there actually were WMD's (any non-idiot could have told you they didn't have any, they hadn't found any in years.. hidden yadda yadda syria sure sure whatever.. you do know that the u$a sends people to syria to be tortured because of the pesky human rights issues bush hasn't got around yet.. anyways..

so now it was all to free the iraqi people, that's a nice thought, too bad you let bush bankrupt the country after just one war, you could of liberated others too..

have fun with the crippling interest and debt when china becomes the economic world power in ~20 years and your economy really collpases, then you guys can get in line behind the counties that matter and listen to their bs reasons to liberate texas or floria because they have wmd's..

i hope that your 'fiscal conservative' retard president makes you guys happy, eight-trillion dollars in debt.. let me type that out for you, 8,000,000,000,000.00.. yeah that's alot of money with interest being charged..

once the country goes bankrupt maybe I'll try and snag a nice piece of SoCal cheap...

idiots..
 
2005-01-30 04:12:35 PM
Has anyone heard anything about, if the voters did not show up they did not get their food rations renewed for next year? I have seen some articles that are saying it is a hoax and some that are claiming it is true?
 
2005-01-30 04:12:41 PM
Mama-

"Day-to-day life will not change much in Iraq, soon anyway. But man, I tell you, those pictures of brave people waving blue fingers brings tears to my eyes.

I feel great for the coalition soldiers too, this is a wonderful day for them. I hope the families of those we lost can draw some comfort from this."

I completely agree with you. However, I think many families will find little solace in the fact that giving democracy to oppressed people is by no means the reason why their sons and daughters were sent there to fight and die. Their children went off to war to defend our country when it didn't need saving from Saddam. I'm not sure if I'd ever get over that, democracy in Iraq or no.
 
2005-01-30 04:13:10 PM
So - since we all know how *no* fraud occured in our elections, how possible is it that the candidate that wins has our complete backing?

How likely is it that they won't?


/didn't rtfa/previous posts
 
2005-01-30 04:13:28 PM
any idea who won?
 
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