What if she hadn't taken it? She would have likely been writhing in pain and been unable to concentrate, learn anything, or contribute to the class. Is that any better?

Yes, le mew! Now you are getting it! We must stop this scourge of drugs flooding from the sewers to devour our children!

I don't know when I'll say this again, Weaver95, so enjoy it: I agree with you and think you have a great idea.

While we're at it, let's extend the zero tolerance policy to things like Vivarin. And since caffeine is also found in cola and coffee, NO Coke machines anymore, not even in the teachers' lounges, and NO coffee.

They'd change that in a hurry.

Great policy.

Meanwhile 85% of the kids in the school are going to the nurse every day to get their Ritalin, anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications.

Schools are farked up.

I also agree with Weaver.

*black hole opens*

My wife Substitutes as a Nurse at a public highschool -

She is allowed to schedule an abortion for a student, but can't give them a Tylenol without special written permission.

Hypocrisy surrenders

Rook

Weaver95: it's bad (or just lazy) administrators

Also, some of the "zero tolerance" policies have to with trying to avoid lawsuits. The fear of seemingly unequal treatment (oh noes, racism!) or not catching the once-in-a-generation Hitler when he brought a pocketknife to class and then shoots up the school a few years later.

Ironically -- dare I use the word -- the result seems to be more lawsuits from people getting fed up such treatment. Not to mention administrators forgetting that (1) rules are just a means to an end and (2) they're farking administrators, not emperors.

Going a bit too far, as usual, eh American schools?

Seems reasonable.

/sarcasm
//or is it?

Weaver95: If we're gonna win the 'war on drugs' let's DO IT already.

We have just as much chance of winning the war on drugs then we have at winning the war on terror. You cant even call this shiat a war, wars end.

Serves her right for menstruating!

As a general rule, I think that if a student is bleeding uncontrollably out of an orifice, they should be send send home immediately.

You all are missing the big picture. What are these females doing in school in the first place when they should be home learning to cook, clean, and to please a man?

Jumping on the bandwagon...I support keeping the illegal drugs illegal, but how the hell do you get high off of Tylenol?

Zero tolerance anything is likely counterproductive.

Excellent, now all the girls can just claim they're all on painful periods at the exact same time and all go home.

Let's see how the school likes THAT drop in their student attendance funding.

Join the resistance, my sisters!

Nicholas Rotoli = Stupid aswipe.

And yes, wouldn't it be hilarious if all of the faculty and administration were held to the same 'zero tolerance' policy?

sasbazooka

LMAO at those song lyrics in your profile. Every homemade video I see of that song is more screwed up than the last.

True Story:

Back in the tender year of 1998, an administrator from my school gave a student a tylenol from her purse. She was not registered as the school nurse, nor a liscensed pharmacist or doctor of any kind (although she is now getting her doctorate in child psychology). At the end of the school year, the student told her mother about what happened, and the mother sued the school. The teacher was promptly fired, and the suit was dropped.

Evaluate on a case by case basis, that's all I ask.

You know what? I still don't agree with Weaver. You let this girl take aleve or midol today, and tommorow you let some kid take Robitussin. Then Tylenol. Then one day we'll all turn around and see kids shooting up White Tiger in the hallways.

/Hippies, roaming the streets, looting, raping and pillaging...

Poor girl. Something needs to be done about policies like that. Obviously the people that came up with that rule have never had to deal with cramps.

She deserves to suffer with original sin and all.
/troll

While I don't really agree with zero-tolerance due to the above mentioned policy, let me share a story with you.

In jr. high one of my friends gave another friend a couple of OTC painkillers for a headache. Immediatly upon taking them, the boy had an allergic reaction and was rushed to the emergency room. It could have been a fatal situation. I think I rather know that the administrators are trying to make sure the kids don't get ahold of something that could be dangerous. Teenagers need to be responsible for their own health and decisions, but at the same time- their knowledge is so much more limited than they think it is. As adults we are still responsible for keeping them safe.

/something to think about atleast.

borland502:

Jumping on the bandwagon...I support keeping the illegal drugs illegal, but how the hell do you get high off of Tylenol?

So your one of the people I hear about that still wants drugs to be illegal huh?

Check out this link it might give you a different perspective.

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/08/17/drugWarVictims.html

I hope you take the time to read it and will look forward to your response.

No, this is a good idea. If we outlaw tylenol, only the outlaws will be able to cure headaches. Then the law abiding people will end up with such serious migraines they'll get pissed off and gun down all those damn headache-free outlaws.

DblDad: /Typing "zero" has now fixxed "Saved by Zero" in my brain. Arrrgh!


Well me too, now. Thanks, dick.

Good, if a kid is bleeding incessantly from their genitals in school they should be sent home!!! This is a no brainer ;o)

this is old, old news. as in ten years ago old. i stuff cotton balls in a small black film canister and then put in aleve, advil, or whatever otc medicine i may need. that way the pills won't rattle. of course, people use this for other substances as well...

Pfft. I took Pamprin for a headache yesterday since we were out of Excedrin.

Worked wonders.

TheAnvil:

You all are missing the big picture. What are these females doing in school in the first place when they should be home learning to cook, clean, and to please a man?


Now to sit back and see who actually takes that serious and posts a bitter reply lol!

Fark public schools. I'm sending mine private schools when they are of school age. At least when you are directly funding the school, you have say in what happens to your kids.

"no tolerance" is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. What if the whole world was no tolerance? One speeding ticket and you lose your license, one late bill and your electric is shut off. There is a degree to which the farktard teachers and school administration have to do their jobs, which yes is to play judge and determine the severity of a certain offence. But NOOOOOOOO, they hide behind the skirt of the rules and regulations instead of being compassionate towards the needs of those they are responsible for.

Also the girl should have known and went straight to the nurse to begin with....

Nurse? I wish the school I work at had a nurse... When a kid gets hurt, it's the secretary's job to deal with the blood. She's got a high-school education, and she's not coming anywhere near me if I get injured. None of the schools in our district do, for any grade level. We don't even have a district nurse.

/budget cuts

Okay funny story,

Before the zero tolerance bullcrap, I was in about 2nd grade or so. I had the runs one morning so my mom gave me some anti-diarrheal pills she told me to take when I got in. So I left them in my pocket and remembered in the middle of class and raised my hand and asked to get a drink. She says no. So I say I have to take some pills. She asks to see the pills, and when I wouldn't tell her what they were for she sent me to the office and they called the nurse down to look at the pills. So long story short, I had to 'splain to the whole administration that I had the squirts and I just wanted to take my medicine so I could take a solid dump.

Is this school run by Christian Scientists?

TheAnvil-

You all are missing the big picture. What are these females doing in school in the first place when they should be home learning to cook, clean, and to please a man?

I think you're the one missing the big picture. She was having cramps. She's supposed to be in a tent down by the river.

But seriously, at my kid's school, they have the same policy. And everyone knows about it. Yes, it's a stupid policy in some respects, but it's a policy that clearly spells out what will happen if you violate it. Don't like it? Work to change it.

Now, one thing I may have missed mention of, is that she told the school nurse she took it earlier, obviously to help the nurse with information she needed to properly care for her. Seriously, I don't know, but are nurses or school nurses exempt from Doctor/Patient priviledge? I mean, that is exactly the point behind the priviledge - so you can tell your doctor what you need to without fear of getting busted for something.

You know, this isn't news anymore, and has been going on for 15 years. Zero tolerance is a great tool for establishing hard, non-negotiable guidelines for school administrators. By now, parents and students should be aware that any weapon or any medication will result in suspension.

there is usually an appeals process at the central office where judgement can be used to decrease or dismiss the suspension. But since this isn't good copy, it rarely gets mentioned

(I know this because I was suspended 15 years ago for whittly my pencil with a 3" swiss army knife. My suspension of 3 days, plus 7 days at a special school for discipline cases was rescinded after about a 3 minute interview with the administrator over my case in the central office).

jojo... someone should have shot the mother and the farking lawyer. I think a zero-tolerance law should be passed that any lawyer who takes a dumbass case like that and anyone who brings the case should be shot on sight.

Not that it's relevant, but I remember kids getting caught smoking at school and that being a bad thing, but the smoke would roll out of the teachers' lounge whenever the door opened. I don't know how that works now.

I was a substitute teacher at my old high school. They had this policy. One day the drug dog came to do a random sniff, checking for OTC as well as illegal drugs. I received a call from another teacher, unaware I was a sub. She hurriedly whispered: "Lock up your purse, the drug dog's coming!"

Wow if that had been in force when I was in highschool I'd have been put in rehab or something because of my Ibuprofin addiction! Taking it once a month is an addiction, right?

I wonder where the line is drawn. Do you have to clear it with your Principle when you go on the pill? Must you clear all scheduled surgeries and cases of the flu with your school in order to take medication for said occurances? I do realize children don't have the same rights as adults, but hell if I'd want my kid's teachers knowing my kid was on the pill or on Prozac to keep them from murdering said dumbass teacher (that is, if I had children).

I thought medical records were strictly confidential? Or did I miss something after I left Highschool that made it a special case?

"This is a kid who wants to be in school, loves to be in school, and gives back to the community."

Spoken like a true Alevehead.