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Straight_From_ATL:

Wow, and I've been wondering all this time what to do with my life...it's perfect!!! I like naked women, I like music, I like alcohol!!! YESSSSS


You forgot one. You like gold digging opportunist biatches?

Like to drill them and send them on their way? Yes sir I do.

haha. way to be, Straight_From_ATL

Jade to the stage...Jade

K, did not finish reading the article, but as a male dancer for 7 years, an owner/lead/MC of a female troope for 4 years, what I read on the 1st 2 pages were 1/3 hype, 1/3 BS, and 1/3 truth.

I know I really SHOULD finish reading the article before I comment, espec as that was my work for over 10 years, but 5 pages was getting a bit long for me.

My Creds? Would mean jack squat to any outside of Cali, and very little to southern Cali for those after the Heidi Fliess (anyone now even know whom she was?). Lost Boys (Sacto/Nor Cal troope), Chippendales travel troope, and freelance in Vegas. Female troope so long ago in Sacto I cannot even remember the name Lost Boys were affiliated with, and in Chico, all one would need is the name Storme.

All of this was in the '90s.

My point? Fark if I know, but jus' saying that a guy CAN become desensitized to naked women, believe it or not. See enough boobs, and they all start to look alike, other than being critical/observatory. Bigger/smaller, fake/real, silver dollar areolaes vs dime sized, innies vs out/puckered nipples...

BUT!!....

Through all of that, DJ's were almost invariablely complete lechers, at least in clubs. THey never had to deal with costuming, setting up the dance tracks, and what little choreography women used (male dancing is/was 90% choreography, female is, at best, the opposite). They just played the tracks they were told to, and messed it up half the time. Prior to CD burning, the best dancers would try to copy onto tape the exact routine that they wanted to play (and us males HAD to) because DJ's were as reliable as a politician on his campain promises.

CD burning was JUUUUST coming out when I quit the business. As a half nerd, we had it, and it always was spectacular that we could just pop in a CD and play the entire set (3-4 songs for women, 5-6 partial songs for men, about 15-20 min). I am sure it is alot different now/much easier.

Heck, Jez (my ladyfriend) is still a dancer now (for those that know me/us here on Fark). And while things are so much different, some things do not change... and the DJ's are a major part.

Yeah, there is still SOME distain/callousness. They see the put on charm sooooo much, that when it is tried to be applied to them, there is a natural defense of "yeah, whatever" in the business. But DJ's are the least in this, by FAAAAAR. I have seen repeatedly DJ's falling for the simper-and-lick, and get shorted on tipouts SOOO often. Heck, it is almost a given.

It does not matter the DJ's age, what matters is how long they have been in the business. Heck, we had a DJ of a rock station out of LA that had been DJ'ing for 10 years when 106.7 folded, and he was just fresh meat when he joined C.H. Too in Vegas.

DJ's seldom see the entire action, they are shut up in thier booths. Bouncers and what (very) few male bartenders are more like what the article states. There as as often as many male bartenders as there are female DJs; in general, any DJ will sucker for a dancer as fast as any patron.

Forgive the beer induced farking thesis, but felt that this was something I could babble drunkenly about from experience, and tell it true.

Raspil:

He'd give you a kickdown? Please explain, i'm not hip

2 dollar bills aren't urban legends. They are legal tender up here in canada if you still have them. They have been phased out for about 10 years now.

/the more you know

Like a reacharound, but less friendly?

I got everyone beat I think:

Ex-strip club bartender!

They wanted an extra guy instead of a girl for security and I was doing a circuit for this guy who owned 4 clubs, so he works me in, the girls like me, and bam, I'm there 4 or 5 days a week.

I got tip out of like $10 or $15 per dancer for giving them gingerale and making sure their guys stayed tipsy...along with $10/hr under the table, I could clear $200 easy on a Friday or Saturday.

/breaks into his MC Hammah 'Can't Touch Dis' dance

Manchurian

"Kickdowns" are a part of the "cut" meaning you get a part of the $ recieved. Usually is in relation to a "pumper" who goes around "promoting" either in club for certain girls ("Damn, is Crystal hot or what!?!" Trust me, drunk guys are very open to suggestion, and anothour guy making comments makes them that much more desirable) or for the club in general.

Tho since you used "he", I assume it is in regards to a DJ that pumps a certain dancer. If he hypes a girl over the others, she in general will give him a greater % of her earnings that night as a "tip" since she will have gotten more by the hype the DJ announced. Often a dual day thing (hoping the customer comes back the next day), it can be a "day of the week" thing (customers remember her from last Thursday, return the next Thursday knowing she works that day) or even just that day, or even just for an hour.

Velvet and Shay Shay to the main stage...Velvet and Shay Shay

So I was in this strip club once getting whipped in the left nut by a midget stripper in monkey costume.

I decide to tip her with my lucky $2 dollar bill. Problem was the midget had never seen a 2 dollar bill so she called the bouncer who called the cops.

But the cops knew it was legit so they let me go.

Best laugh I ever had AND I got to get nut whipped by a midget in a monkey suit- for free!!


I still got that 2 dollar bill by the way.

Yeah, Goblin just gave away a major, MAJOR trick of the trade.

Dancer gets a mark, and gets him to buy her a drink along with his. He is charged a price for... say a Long Island... for her. As he stated, 95% of the time it is just Ginger Ale, but it LOOKS like an alchoholic drink. Patron gets drunker, keeps buying "drinks" for his dancer of choice whom is of course, flirting like crazy, and he is thinking just MAYBE he can take her home, if he buys enough drinks to get her loopy.

Meanwhile, what is really going on is that either the dancer is getting a cut per overcharge, or "fluffing her schedual" showing that she should work prime time... as she can get guys to buy her "drinks". "Prime time" usually is "suits" (businessmen) whom tend to not only be be the easiest marks, but will buy the dancers "top shelf" (highest priced) "drinks".

It actually is rather convoluted, but a danged interesting dance of its own, at the same time.

"Alright gentlemen, if you enjoy the scenery, dole out the greenery!"

//Best Dave Attel line ever
//former frat party DJ- does that count?

*Chuckle*

Depends, Roger.

Did you step out into the croud, or hide behind equiptment?

If ya stepped out, then you were better than a DJ; you were an MC, and danged sure it counts.

If not, then it still counts; just prolly was not as much fun... >;^)P

errr... that would be "crowd".

/Going to bed now

Goblin King -

Sorry, but I'll have to raise.

My strip club resume reads (not concurrently, of course):

Manager
Bartender
DJ
Security
Back

Hell, in a pinch, I've even waited tables (had too when a weeknight waitress got exceptionally wasted and was wandering around with drinks yelling, "Who the FARK ordered this?!")

The worst I ever experienced (perhaps outside of having to inform a dancer that she needed to trim her pubic hair, as she looked like Larry Fine with a thong on his head) was a drunken customer who vomited on my bar and then proceeded to eat said vomit.

It wasn't long after that particular incident that I left the business altogether.

I just lost the - ahem - flavor for it.

"I remember I was trying to tip a stripper with a $2 Bill. The DJ eventually called the cops on me. When the cop arrived, he and I were the only ones that knew a $2 was legit. After they took the handcuffs off, I had one of the best laughs of my life."

That's a flat out lie, we get $2 bills in our club constantly, in fact I had never seen as many $2 bills in my entire life as we see in the club. Strip club peeps know thier $$$$

/got nailed with a counterfeit $20 on Monday.....

I didn't even bother to read the article, but I have to throw my two cents in here......

Managed two strip clubs ("gentleman's" and dive)
Cooked in three
Security in four
Bartender in One

Thankfully out of the business now, telling slow learners who have no business touching a computer in the first place how to work their POS systems. I biatch, but it beats the Hell out of dealing with prima donna dancers (and DJs) night in and night out.

Money wise, the best story I have is I was working Door, at the end of the night the DJ comes up to me and shows me a meagar wad of bills and says, "This is why you should DJ."
I pull out a wad about 3 times as big and say "Eh, I'll stay on the door, and this is why you should eat your Wheaties."

Read a few stories that gave me Deja-pew, One thing I have to say, working in a strip club sounds like a grat idea....but fark! It took me about about a year to get my taste for titties and beer back. It's the kid in a candy store syndrome. I got tired of dealing with drunks, so I sobered up, and my first thought when a hot nakkid woman was coming at me was "what do you want now, biach?" (OK, it took awhile for the second symptom to happen, and the thought never crossed my mind at home=))

/tittie bars: great places to visit. don't stay.

Didn't read the long-assed article about how tough life is for these guys, but did they mention how they work the girls for money to insure that they get decent music when they're on stage?

Probably not.

My favorite part of the article:

"Hi, honey," Rock says, lifting up his sunglasses.

"Will you, um, put the dark lights on to cover my fat ass?"

"Ah, yeah. I like that fat ass, though." To prove his point, he gives it a smack.

heheh...
/there's crazy money in those clubs

I cant stop thinking about that old article about the Michigan stripper who squirted mothers milk on the customer... Heh, hilarious.

On a side note: What the fark is with all these non-drudge drudge links all of a sudden? Not that its really an issue, we've been mis-labling things here at fark for years... but two in two days mislabled to Drudge? whats up with that?

I_B_OTAY

Come on brother, broadband support and hard job do not go together. I had to work in a cotton mill to pay for college down here in the south, now that is hard work, plus you don't get but like $9 an hour to do it.

My Question..
Why do all strip club DJ's always sound alike??
is there some super secret school? if so sign me up.

abeg

My Question..
Why do all strip club DJ's always sound alike??

I've noticed that too. They all seem to speak in some fake DJ voice and darn near swallow the mic, making most of it unintelligible.

Bwah har rall hurff BAMBI yelltrrr joonnna MAIN STAGE kkasssrew hinggle jarf DOLLARS defirttuh sommadik!!!!

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Hey biatches, you have not dealt with anything until you've dealt with drugged-up, fueding, over-inflated ego havin' prima donnas, 10 hours a night, 5 nights a week.

/Strip club dj
//had a bad night
///only made $24 in tips from 4 girls

Am i the only one here who hasn't worked at a strip joint !?

/just wondering

HobsonJobson: Am i the only one here who hasn't worked at a strip joint !?

You're supposed to just make something up.

I did a three month fill in at a strip club for a guy. He didn;t want to loose his gig but wanted the time off. He introduced me to the manager and I played CD's for strippers for 3 months. I present to you this FAQ.

Was it fun? Yes!

Was it the best job ever? It was very boring. I played a lot of bad music over and over again.

Best part? You really know this already.

Worst part? Seeing pensioners waiting outside before the club opened on days they got their checks from the govt.

Did I date a dancer? Nope.

Did I hot on dancers? I was a total school dweeb with no money and no social skills. Of course I hit on dancers.

Good or bad thing to do? I am glad I did it but I wouldnt do it now I would rather be running the club.

M

What kind of dumbass gives a $20 tip at the tip rail? Why not just take a twenty out of your wallet and set it on fire?

I've heard about guys who will spend hundreds of dollars at a strip joint just for dances. WTF?

Best line in the article:

"You can't hurt steel," Rock says. "I'm telling you, you can't hurt steel! I'm Dr. Rock. I'm the ayatollah of rock and rolla!"

The manager stares him down and laughs. "Lick my nuts and shut up."

"No normal girl wants to go out with a topless-bar DJ," Pennington says. "You know, they think the DJ is in the DJ booth getting, you know, blowjobs and hand jobs from dancers. It's a double-edged sword: You don't want to date the girls that you work with, but no other girls can date you either because you work in a topless bar with a bunch of strippers. Like, 'Oh, you sleep with all the girls.'

If the other strippers think you're going to be farking all the strippers if you're dating one of them then it must be true. he should be able to date a stripper and have her not worry if he really isn't getting BJ's and handjobs all day.

So here I am, working as a manager at a middle of the road strip joint. A friend of a friend got me the gig, after I quit managing the local Starbucks. I had dreams of naked women and wild flings running through my head. Boy was that a mistake. Dealing with drunk and/or aggressive customers, prima donnas, DJs and the occasional cop on the take kept life hopping. And the orgies never seemed to materialize. But this one time really sticks in my mind. This guy slips some money under a girls thong, which she pulls out, looks strangely at, then sets aside. When she's done, she comes over to me and shows me the bill - it's a $2 bill. Pulling the customer aside, I explain the situation to him that I'm not going to have counterfeit money passed at my place, and although it was funny the girls do work hard for their tips. Unfortunately the prick was adamant the bill was real, and produced more - a lot more - out of his wallet. He claimed he was going to pay for his bill with the money, and there was nothing I could do to stop him - it was legal tender. Had he been cool about it, I would have let it slide. But instead I said if I saw one more $2 bill from him I'd call the cops. He waved the bunch in my face. So I call, and in comes the cops, and guess what? They drag is ass away. Moral of the story? Don't pass a $2 with YOUR OWN picture on it. It's supposed to have Thomas Jefferson.

20/20: I've heard about guys who will spend hundreds of dollars at a strip joint just for dances. WTF?

Completely understandable... Blow a hundred bucks or more on an evening and not get laid? Sounds like marriage!

trapped-in-CH:

Don't pass a $2 with YOUR OWN picture on it. It's supposed to have Thomas Jefferson.


Teehee.... :)

Watcher13: /Strip club dj
//had a bad night
///only made $24 in tips from 4 girls


Yikes. That sucks hard core dude. 4 girls? Sounds like you need to move to a town with real strip clubs or find another type of gig. I'm sure you've thought of this already.

Is this place a dive? What is good money on a good night?

Ragnar_da_Testy:

Money wise, the best story I have is I was working Door, at the end of the night the DJ comes up to me and shows me a meagar wad of bills and says, "This is why you should DJ."
I pull out a wad about 3 times as big and say "Eh, I'll stay on the door, and this is why you should eat your Wheaties."

How do you make more money at the door than being a DJ? The doorman at the club I'm familiar with only lifts the velvet rope and escorts dancers to their car at the end of the night. He probably gets $5 from each girl.

The DJ however gets 10% of what each girl makes. It's a successful club and each girl does pretty well... which means the DJ does very well. Each girl gives the DJ (on average) between $10 & $30.

Explain the math, please - I'm interested.

I'll be sending this thread to Zac to read. Interesting stories.

Who is Zac?

Oh, the author. I see know.

I used to do it. Some friends of mine still do. I got out of the strip joint market sector a while back, but there are two friends of mine here pulling down $1000+ per night on a good night, maybe an easy $500-600 on an average night.

Now for the bad...

Because of all the smoke, liquor, and long hours in the environment, these guys in their 30s looks like they're in their late 40s/early 50s.

Because of all the cash-oriented income, they get audited frequently.

Because of all the "things" that come along with such a job, one is divorced, and the other hasn't gotten married.

Looking at boobies and dealing with strippers as a F/T job seems like fun... at first... but it has a price.

Being a strip bar DJ is like being married to 50 women... and all of them get PMS at the same time.

/been in the biz 15 years

Since there are so many experts here, maybe someone can
answer this:

Are the lapdances better when the stripper is crying?