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(Iwon)   Man loses millions in Vegas due to gambling addiction. Should he: A) Stop gambling? B) Get help for addiction? or C) Sue the casinos?   (reuters.iwon.com) divider line 169
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2005-01-26 10:31:04 AM
It's a reasonable beef, especially if MGM was really enticing him... otherwise I call shenanigans.
 
2005-01-26 11:13:12 AM
He loses at life. The lawsuit is irrelavant :)
 
2005-01-26 01:44:28 PM
without reading the article..
I bet that he sues.
 
2005-01-26 01:45:20 PM
haha this article is from "I won"
 
2005-01-26 01:55:26 PM
And personal responsibility means nothing to him? You cannot fault another for your own addictions.
 
2005-01-26 02:14:23 PM
He got free transpiration?! And he's biatchING?!?
 
2005-01-26 02:14:58 PM
Meanwhile, I get free "bend over and take it up the ass from the filters." I'm suing Fark.
 
2005-01-26 04:51:03 PM
damn CheekyMunky, i've never seen the filter do that to the word transportation before. i'd sue too
 
2005-01-26 04:52:39 PM
incidentally - i did read the article and see the typo there. just messing with ya :-)
 
2005-01-26 05:42:30 PM
the house always wins.
 
2005-01-26 05:42:41 PM
Yes he should.
 
2005-01-26 05:42:43 PM
stupid is as stupid does?

I have no pity for this twit.
 
2005-01-26 05:42:58 PM
Usually, I'm all against trivial lawsuits that negate personal responsability in any form ...

but hey - it's casinos. C'mon, it's not really *sueing* as such, it's just another gamble.
 
2005-01-26 05:43:22 PM
D) Park his car on train tracks and watch the carnage.


/window seat
 
2005-01-26 05:44:20 PM
I'm just wondering...

...would he be suing them if he had won?
 
2005-01-26 05:44:30 PM
The loser will probably have a punitive damages judgement issued against him for wasting everyone's time...
 
2005-01-26 05:44:38 PM
I'm waiting for the first person to sue because they have a gambling addiction and got lucky and hit the jackpot. Somehow I think the personal responsibility train already left the tracks. Its my winnings if I win but your responsibility if I lose.
 
2005-01-26 05:44:46 PM
He should just dig up a few cans of cash in the yard and go play War or Paper, Rock, Scissors in some of the other casinos. He doesn't know it yet but his son Mr. Pappagiorgio won 4 cars also.
 
2005-01-26 05:46:18 PM
Dr.Knockboots
You bastard! That's the second time today on Fark I amost crapped my pants laughing...
 
2005-01-26 05:46:31 PM
I say all of the above. Casinos are pretty damn shady when it comes to trying to keep people in there spending money, and they do capitalize on an extremely addictive and self-destructive behavior, which is just shameful. Granted, there is personal responsibility involved, but the casinos actively encourage them NOT to stop.
 
2005-01-26 05:46:38 PM
Quite obviously (c).

Everyone should just go read the McDonald's thread... we have hashed the personal responsibility speech to death today.
 
2005-01-26 05:46:40 PM
Brainless moran should have known that you get the money from the casinos that aren't on the main drag. On the strip, the house is practically screaming "PWN3D!"
 
2005-01-26 05:46:53 PM
make a hole in the desert and bury him there. But you gotta dig the hole the night before, else you could be there all night digging more holes.
 
2005-01-26 05:47:01 PM
Fair is fair. This man lost money to casino's and I say let him sue the casino but only if casino's are able to sue people who win money too.
 
2005-01-26 05:47:12 PM
D. All of the above.

Step 1: Lose millions gambling
Step 2: Sue casinos for taking your money
Step 3: Profit!
 
2005-01-26 05:47:29 PM

Didn't he see this?

Obviously not.

 
2005-01-26 05:47:35 PM
They must put all California highschool students through the course "Nothing bad that happens in your life is your fault, here's how you sue"

Unbelievable.....
 
2005-01-26 05:47:42 PM
How do losers like this accumulate millions in the first place????
 
2005-01-26 05:47:50 PM
I'm surprised that MGM casino employees "Knuckles" and "Slick" haven't roughed him up for this.
 
2005-01-26 05:48:29 PM
I hope he sets a precedent for all the broke day-traders to sue Smith Barney for their stock-trading addiction. Makin' money the old-fashioned way... suing the balls off of 'em.

/He should know the House always wins.
 
2005-01-26 05:49:38 PM
He should try gambling with other people's money...

 
2005-01-26 05:49:43 PM
without bothering to rtfa, i'm guessing this dimwit took option C.
 
2005-01-26 05:50:31 PM
Second thoughts on this... it seems like everyone seems to think this is a totally black and white issue. It isn't. BOTH sides of this are at fault. Yes, it's the man's responsibility to not gamble. However, it's also the casino's fault for actively encouraging and profiting on addicting behavior like some kind of drug-pusher (and yes, I realize it's not CHEMICALLY addictive, but it's horribly psychologically addictive, which is quite bad in itself.. if it weren't addictive, casinos wouldn't make so much money).
 
2005-01-26 05:51:51 PM
D) Keep gambling and win it all back someday. Odds are in his favor.
 
2005-01-26 05:51:53 PM
$5,475,000? Hell, I feel stupid when I blow a buck on a lottery ticket. That money would have been better off with me.
 
2005-01-26 05:52:07 PM
...but the casinos actively encourage them NOT to stop.

What kind of business encourages people not to frequent their establishments? That's just silly talk. Same goes for the fast food industry and the tobacco industry. Money talks. To everyone.
 
2005-01-26 05:52:40 PM
sullyman:

I'm waiting for the first person to sue because they have a gambling addiction and got lucky and hit the jackpot. Somehow I think the personal responsibility train already left the tracks. Its my winnings if I win but your responsibility if I lose.

I was in Vegas once and accidentally put a $500 chip under a few greens. I got dealt my first card, a 4, before I noticed and the dealer stopped the deal and called over a pit boss.

He allowed us to kill the hand and then said, "You realize we wouldn't be having this conversation if that had been an ace."

I later learned that in Vegas parlance, this is called "Taking a shot". You get one freebie.
 
2005-01-26 05:52:50 PM
He's suing in the state of California, he chose to gamble, he chose to read the mail that the casino was sending him instead of throwing it away, I'm guessing that this will be a case where personal responsibility won't be a factor and he'll win.

/Here's to hoping that I am wrong.
 
2005-01-26 05:53:12 PM
ToxicMunkee: The problem is that what they sell is horribly addictive. Yes, the same does go for the tobacco industry. I'm aware that it's a rather idealistic thing to say, but you have to hold them as least partly responsible for pushing it.
 
2005-01-26 05:54:31 PM
I would've liked to see something like this back in the 50s and 60s. I'm sure the mob would've resolved this case "out of court".
 
2005-01-26 05:55:19 PM
He's a "whale" of a dumba$$.
 
2005-01-26 05:55:34 PM
I read the article, and the problem here is not that they arranged transportation and whatnot, but that they loaned him the money to gamble with, by giving him multimillion-dollar lines of casino credit. What the casinos are trying to do here is get him to pay them the millions of dollars he owes from those lines of credit.

If he'd brought in his own money and lost it all I'd say that's his fault, but I think the casinos SHOULD be prohibited from collecting on that debt and any interest fees. He's not asking the casino to give him money; he's asking them to not collect money he never had in the first place.
 
2005-01-26 05:56:24 PM
I'm all for personal responsibility. It's hard to quit things you enjoy and/or are addicted to but it's possible. In the end the only person responsible for your actions is you.

Life is hard.
 
2005-01-26 05:56:26 PM
This moran culd have just as easily told the casinos to kiss his puckered browneye when they OFFERED $4 mil in credit. Unfortunately he's too stupid to stop and think "hey, what happens if I lose this 4 mil in credit?"
 
2005-01-26 05:57:44 PM
feepness Very generous freebie!

You were very lucky. If I were the pit boss I would've let the hand stand and have you there shiatting bricks with your 4.

It's not the worst first card you can be dealt, though - you never know...
 
2005-01-26 05:58:10 PM
Spleef420-
I agree with you that the man was an idiot, but nonetheless consider: if I'm a con artist and trick you out of your money, you're foolish to fall for it but nonetheless, what I did was illegal.
 
2005-01-26 05:58:32 PM
he knew the score and lost the money. that's his responsibility.

HOWEVER...

gambling addiction is a big problem and I don't think the Nevada Gaming Commission should allow casinos to extend credit lines for gambling
 
2005-01-26 05:59:41 PM
"Should he: A) Stop gambling? B) Get help for addiction? or C) Sue the casinos?" ... Interesting.

Ask these questions:



Should he: A) Stop EATING? B) Get help for addiction? or C) Sue MCDonalds?

Thanks to the efforts of the people that attack the SYMPTION and not the PROBLEM -



- I expect a lot of companies to get sued when there is a Precedent where all blame is REMOVED from the people's actions - and taken to the PRODUCT ( as long as that product is a 'evil corporation' ) then it's no surprise what the logical next step ends up being.
 
2005-01-26 06:00:20 PM
Goddess of Atheism:

If he'd brought in his own money and lost it all I'd say that's his fault, but I think the casinos SHOULD be prohibited from collecting on that debt and any interest fees. He's not asking the casino to give him money; he's asking them to not collect money he never had in the first place.

So if he had taken cash out on a credit card should he not have to pay that either? Money is money, and using a line at a casino is supposed to be like "writing a check" in Nevada.
 
2005-01-26 06:01:38 PM
Usually I'll lose about $200.00 and then quit because I'm bummed from just losing that. It usually cures me from gambling for about a year or two, then the cycle repeats.

I can't imagine someone losing millions, that just makes me sick.
 
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