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(Richmond Times dispatch)   Virginia lawmaker proposes bill banning lowrider pants. If your underwear is showing, you know where you're going   ( divider line
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2005-01-26 09:17:48 AM  
This is not the case in the USA.
Fair enough, you'll understand my blinkered view of your country. (Does Fark balance the image I'm fed by Hollywood and exported tv shows?)

There is a decency issue to consider, though not enough of one to warrant bannination. I did once have to ask a woman working for me to pull her trousers up as other staff were distracted.

/work in console QA. QA testers are distracted by mentioning the word 'woman' let alone having a particularly fine Italian arse on display.
2005-01-26 09:18:29 AM  
I am really confused now, after seeing a picture of this asshat. Is he black, and trying to legislate the current ideas of Bill Cosby, or is he passing, and trying to throw off anyone who might suspect him?

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2005-01-26 09:24:00 AM  
So, let me get this straight, this trend--having come from prison in the first place (notably as a sign that one had a 'significant other' inside the pen)--is now going to send people who wear 'em like that right on back to the Pen? now that's Irony, I tell ya.

/thinks it's dumb
//laughed at a guy who was in the shop once to get a tire fixed and had his britches fall off because of not wearing a belt and pants 40 sizes too big...
2005-01-26 09:26:03 AM  
Speaking as someone who doesn't think much of hip-hop culture, haven't "proper people" (whether white or black) been going to great lengths to suppress whatever is popular in black culture for decades?

Wasn't there an outcry when Jazz first started getting a white audience? Weren't there moves in the '50s to ban "race" records from being played where young impressionable white teenagers could hear them?

You'd think people would get tired of an endless crusade against a constantly evolving subculture. If black popular culture suddenly became the paragon of modesty tomorrow, the scions of decency would still find fault with it, and demand it be suppressed.
2005-01-26 09:27:36 AM  
This whole civil liberty thing was beginning to suck anyway.

Ya know, who needs freedom of expression? It was useless anyway.

I personally hate that freedom of speech thing too. Really, who wants to use their mind? Thinking is hard work. So is reading a book.

/a little off subject..but ya know where I'm headed.
2005-01-26 09:39:26 AM  
I support this legislation... long as it also covers men who display "plumber's crack".

/you don't want to google that, trust me
2005-01-26 09:41:52 AM  
This legislation isn't going anywhere but even if it did, the people in question would find another way to say, "PLEASE LOOK AT ME, I THINK I AM SOMEBODY, I NEED YOUR ATTENTION".
2005-01-26 09:44:41 AM  
"Banning low-riding pants with exposed underwear is likely to have a disproportionate effect on racial minorities."

So pull up your farking pants already... this annoys me to no end, especially the girls who have their thongs hanging out. Do they not know just how nasty they look?
2005-01-26 10:01:03 AM  
I can't beleive how stupid some of these asshats look. Saw one kid on campus a while back who managed to belt his pants at the point where his legs meet his torso so that most of his boxers were showing, but he had to waddle like a duck to keep the pants up, then of course it was just a huge mess of fabric below.. ya.. that looks real cool.. about as cool as wearing a dress.

I remember wearing baggy clothes, but there were limits, and one point was when the pant leg is wider then the waist.

As you get older you begin to regress, now i'm wearing more fitted clothes, and complain how everything is made to look like a giant box of fabric.

As for the ladies, if you are fit and built like a model then showing some thong is ok, if you have a huge potbelly/gut/are overweight, that's just nasty.

Should not do.
2005-01-26 10:03:27 AM  
Norfolk Democrat who has filed legislation that would levy a $50 fine on anyone who "exposes his below-waist undergarments in an offensive manner."

Gotta love those tolerant democrats...
2005-01-26 10:05:26 AM  
A friend of mine said it best... wearing low rider pants is a priveledge, not a right. if you have the body for it, you can do it, otherwise, don't make me sick...
2005-01-26 10:12:59 AM  
I, for one, agree with this legislation! We must do something to combat this nation's addiction to crack!

/bad pun
//not serious either
2005-01-26 10:16:33 AM  
btc9183 - Are you being sarcastic or are you just GAY? Do you seriously think that girls showing their thongs looks nasty? I'll agree that a 200 pound woman showing a thong beneath her sweatpants would be nasty, but a 20-something nubile nymph wanting to show off her latest purchase from Frederick's or Victoria's is FARKING HOT!

Most girls I know that wear the low rider pants go commando anyway, but I have no problem with the ones that like showing the world their sexy g-string or thong.
2005-01-26 10:35:54 AM  
Is my underwears showing?

Yes ma'am!

(shocked nobody else referenced Teen Girl Squad)
2005-01-26 10:36:47 AM  
How many revs per minute is Jefferson up to?
2005-01-26 10:38:53 AM  
Swiss Colony, The lady on the left has a nice inverted heart, but that fast-food-pounding abberation on the right - aaaaaaaahhhhhhh, my eyes, my eyes!!!

From the article:
a $50 fine on anyone who "exposes his below-waist undergarments in an offensive manner."

Hmm, I have to wonder if this legislation is not racist, but perhaps "genderist". The language the legislator uses specifically singles out males - "his" - but makes no mention of ladies.

If it's only about what's offensive, it definitely rules out that woman I saw at Tapas Teatro last night, where you could see that she was wearing a rhinestone-encrusted thong under her ultralowrider jeans. It was not offensive at all. Now, if she were 60 years old it would probably be offensive (60-year old thong-wearning butt crack - ewww!). Unless she was Cheryl Tiegs, who's 58 and still looks hotter than most women half her age. Thong away, Cheryl, thong away!

i wonder if these kids will really realize how ridiculous they looked when they get older and look back in retrospect?

Who doesn't come to that realization? While we can't be held responsible for what our parents made us wear when we were kids (thank God the last remaining photos of me wearing a naugahyde fringe vest were destroyed in the fire in my aunt's apartment), what we wore/wear when we were/are in our 20s is a whole other thing.

I mean, who of us has not looked at embarrassing photos of ourselves from that time and thought, "What the HELL was I THINKING?" I was sooooo into the whole unconstructed-blazer-and-hurachis look in the mid-80s thanks to Miami Vice but I got over it, and now it's a source of great amusement at things like 40th birthday parties. Let's not even get on the subject of the Mike Brady 'fro I had in high school...

So let the 20-somethings have their thongs and cooter pants (TM Television Without Pity) and when they're 40, 50, 60, their kids can rag them about it. What do I care? I'll be hooked up to life support then!
2005-01-26 10:42:42 AM  

Don't F*** wit VA.



2005-01-26 10:45:26 AM  
Why are we trying to fix the result, let's fix the problem!

The problem is the fatty-atta-olla behemoth women. Off them and our viewing pleasure will increase. Our health insurance bills will also decrease. The government and business will no longer have to support these heifers.
2005-01-26 10:48:51 AM  
It seems to me that the job of each generation is to look more ridiculous than the last. (I wore concert shirts and a mullet for some reason).

The pants falling down around the knees thing is just moronic. In my neighborhood I see it every day - kid walking down the street, upside-down sideways visor, one hand on the pants trying to keep them from falling down, one hand on the cell phone. If you can afford a custom gold mouth grill, you can afford a belt.

No reason to make it illegal, i think looking like a complete idiot is enough of a punishment in itself.
2005-01-26 10:49:25 AM  
Sisquo Not Amused
2005-01-26 10:51:18 AM  
a $50 fine on anyone who "exposes his below-waist undergarments in an offensive manner."

All this will lead to is a generation of kids who don't wear "below-waist undergarments."

/why am I so much smarter than our politicians? can't we elect someone with half a farking brain?
2005-01-26 10:53:11 AM  
Mr Cheeks


Don't F*** wit VA.




Hahaha! Because we all know how ghetto and hardcore Ashburn and Sterling are.
2005-01-26 10:57:44 AM  
This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with old people and young people. This guy is probably pissed cause he sees one of his kids doing the same thing.
2005-01-26 10:58:07 AM  
More young gash showing half their ass = More who will get the point and show it all!

What's the problem as long as it's not MY daughter dressing like a whore?
2005-01-26 11:06:43 AM  
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Problem solved
2005-01-26 11:07:25 AM  
Don't F*** wit VA.

Hahaha! Because we all know how ghetto and hardcore Ashburn and Sterling are.

Add a HA HA for me. Any chance that we can have NOVA officially made a part of DC?

I'm currently living in SW VA but went to highschool in Norfolk.
2005-01-26 11:21:18 AM  
i get a kick out of these kids with their baggy ass-pants and bling
my next door neighbors have a teenage son like this. He drives home in his "pimped out" ride (it's a crappy chevy sedan apparently according to this moron waxing it makes it "pimped out")
then he gets out with his droopy pants, his hat cocked to the side, his fake bling, his fubu jersey, his bleached "eminem style" hair (he must have naturally reddish hair because when he tries to bleach it it came out bright orange) and his thick coke-bottle glasses, and pale white face.
then his friends pull in behind him, along with his 6 foot 3 inch 220 pound girlfriend (he's about 5 foot 4, 200 pounds)
and him and his friends all stand around like it's a "special olympics reunion"
i set him off a few times because if i would go outside the mere sight of this group would cause me to burst out into fits of laughter.
they all call me a "hillbilly" because i don't look like them, and apparently i'm standing in the way for their quest to become more "Ghetto" by taking them as a joke.
but it's seriously like an Ali-G skit gone wrong
2005-01-26 11:50:19 AM  
thread worthless without pics?
2005-01-26 11:51:39 AM  
I love the episodes of Cops where the alleged drug dealer who is in really good shape (you can tell because they either are wearing a tank top or no shirt) gets caught by a middle aged obviously overweight cop because the crotch of his jeans are impeding his running being between his knees and all. I imagine while in prison he must be blaming the style for his getting caught.
2005-01-26 11:53:41 AM  
no one's gonna post an "Icy Hot Stuntaz" pic? you guys are slow today
2005-01-26 11:54:37 AM  
Has anyone thought that a hero tag may be appropriate?

In Virginia, everything has a racial tone. They still celebrate Lee/Jackson/King day. They had several years of March being Confederate History month.

And (my personal favorite), a few years ago there was talk of requiring voters to show their registration card or photo id before voting. But noooo....that was racist because it harkened back to poll taxes and tests, creating an impediment to voting. What bull.

I moved to the midwest, where we do have to show ID, and its no big deal.
2005-01-26 12:06:37 PM  
A hero tag for trying to justify your existance by enacting laws that are already covered by some existing law OR a law that is just plain pointless? In time styles will change and the law will be one of those that you read in a book about stupid laws 50 years from now. If the person wearing these clothes is naked in a public indecency way there is a law for that.

You put this law on the books and how do you enforce it? Measure the amount of underwear showing? When it goes to court what does the judge use as evidence, a picture?

Clearly a cry for smaller government, if they have nothing better to do than worry about this they must not need to be on the payroll.
2005-01-26 12:10:33 PM  
I'll say this: If you wear your jeans around your hips, you look like an idiot (unless you're a hot chick wearing thong underwear... mmmmmm...), and if you blast your music, you are an asshole. But, c'mon, this is America! Don't we have the right to be idiots and assholes? What happened to that whole "freedom of expression" thing anyway?
2005-01-26 12:13:28 PM  
"Howell said he's seen enough and heard from enough folks to know they are as bothered as he is by folks who ex- pose their undergarments.
Some teen-agers and young adults have adopted a style of wearing pants belted so low their underwear show."

"ex-pose" and "teen-agers" -- WTF, are we writing for the London Times-Dispatch, Pip? You wont su more cheeps wit yoar fish, gov'nah?

I must say, though, from personal experience, that SW Virginia is one of the crappiest, personal freedom-limiting, puritanatical, police-state shiatholes in the country. And if you're a man, and are "offended" by seeing some ho with her pants slung around her asscrack, then you be a a gay man.
2005-01-26 12:48:00 PM  
A few months ago a Louisiana lawmaker from the Wank tried to put legislation forward that would ban the underwear showing lowrider pants deal. He was laughed out of the State Legislature if I recall correctly. Even made it to the Daily Show too.

Banning how you wear your pants is moroning. It would deprive good citizens from laughing at these morons who have to waddle along while holding their pants up.

The only one of these laws that makes any sort of sense is banning watching the DVD player in your car. But most cars I've seen with this feature have them set up so the display is only in the back seat.

As for banning the loud music.. fark that, just blast your own music even louder when stuck in traffic next to them. Nothing shuts up loud hip hop music like Therion's "Rise of Soddom and Gemorah"

/Wank = West Bank of the Mississippi River
2005-01-26 01:33:53 PM  
I just prefer to laugh at the guys wearing their pants like that and walking around all G'd out. They'll be serving me french fries for the rest of their lives cause they look like a joke and will be treated as such. I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but, wearing your pants showing your ass meant you were a punk in prison.
2005-01-26 01:48:47 PM  
How about everyone who hates these stupid jeans and stuff just pull them down when they see some jackass wearing them, or if they see underwear just give 'em a wedgie. Illustrate the stupidity of their dress in the most obvious way.

Oh wait, most of them would probably kick your wrinkly middle-aged ass, and rightly so because you are interfering with their person, and everyone around you would consider you a 100% complete jackass.

My god people! If you can't do it in reality without being a complete dick, don't legislate it!
2005-01-26 01:50:32 PM  
An observation I made within my circle of friends -- try this with yours. The ones who sag their jeans are the same ones who wear belts. If you know someone who doesn't wear a belt, his or her jeans are at the appropriate height. If you know someone with a belt on, I'm willing to bet you can see their underwear/ass when they bend over.

Try it.
2005-01-26 02:45:18 PM  
actually i tried to take it one step further and start a fad of just going pantsless.

it didn't work out to well, the police were involved, lets just say they prefer you fully clothed when you visit a Dennys on a sunday morning

/got nuthin'
2005-01-26 03:41:26 PM  
It amazes me that so many people feel that wearing your pants around your knees or at any other height make people "idiots" or "look like idiots"...I for one do not care how you, your mother, your neighbor or the local politician wear his or her pants. I don't care if I see your underwear or not. If I don't want to look at your underwear, then I can move my eyes and look at something else. Nobody's fashion sense is the exactly the same and I don't think that those of you who like to wear your pants around your ankles are idiot's...I just don't like your doesnt make mine any better though.
2005-01-26 03:55:41 PM  
Can someone tell me where this whole "baggy pants means you were prison raped" thing came from?

I wore baggy clothes growing up, not because of style, but because it meant you ended up having to buy less clothes as I grew up. And I still were mostly baggy or loose clothing since it's more comfortable. Since hip-hop culture does come from poor ghettos, isn't that as much of a reason for the popularity as "prison rape"?
2005-01-26 08:47:48 PM  
I can't say i'm offended by underwear...
Dresscodes are made for school, not anywhere else. Pretty soon they'll be banning shorts and belly shirts... we'll have to start wearing wool swimming suits that go down to our knees. Honestly ... is Norfolk so boring that they need to put legislation through like this? Aren't there other battles to fight?
2005-01-27 10:40:39 AM  
"If you want to show your underwear in your private home, I don't have any objections," said Del. Algie T. Howell Jr., a Norfolk Democrat who has filed legislation that would levy a $50 fine on anyone who "exposes his below-waist undergarments in an offensive manner."

I, for one, do not find exposed 'below-waist' undergarments offensive. Assuming, of course, that the undergarment exposer has a BMI of around 18-20.
2005-01-27 11:41:48 AM  
In Bush's America? I'ld hardly believe it..

/what sarcasm?
2005-01-27 04:08:35 PM  
Ummm...whats wrong with celebrating Lee/Jackson day? Its celebrating our heratige, just as MLKing day is.
Also, Confedreate History month is now April.
/from Goochland, VA and proud of it
//Del. Howell is black
///Del. Howell is rather rude in person, from my experience
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