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(AZCentral)   Barkley accuses GA golf club of being racist, then appears on Sports Illustrated in chains   (azcentral.com) divider line 55
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2002-03-10 01:02:45 PM

Slave to the rhythm...
 
2002-03-10 01:05:03 PM
Barkley is funny. Does anyone actually take this punk seriously?
 
2002-03-10 01:14:49 PM
"Michael (Jordan) could do it and Tiger could do it, but you have to be willing to be ridiculed," he said. "I'm willing to be ridiculed."

great, who's he think he is.... Al 'fat-ass' Sharpton ???

 
2002-03-10 01:15:07 PM
WOO HOO!

Got my first link posted!
 
2002-03-10 01:18:08 PM
Black kids take Barkley seriously. He's half the reason they think you have to become a jock to be a spokesman or politician or such a role model that you can declare yourself not a role model and people still take you as a role model.

Here's where his current stab at logic falls down: If you lengthen Augusta, everyone shoots higher scores, not just Tiger. So Tiger beats everyone anyway. He just does it at par instead of 18-under.

If Barkley wants kids to grow up right, he should stop sticking his stupid ass on magazine covers.
 
2002-03-10 01:20:48 PM
"If Barkley wants kids to grow up right, he should stop sticking his stupid ass on magazine covers."

HERE HERE !!

 
2002-03-10 01:28:48 PM
Why is it always "racism"?
 
2002-03-10 01:28:49 PM
Hey I got a great idea fellas. Let's make a law so that no one is able to protest what they consider to be injustice---especially celebrities who are in the position to draw attention to what might be an important issue for people to pay attention to.

We can start by calling this asinine. Barkley of coure, certainly not any of you.
 
2002-03-10 01:30:04 PM
he said. "I'm willing to be ridiculed."

Fark and Barkley - a match made in heaven.
 
2002-03-10 01:34:07 PM
Charles barkley: *slaps down the race card*
 
2002-03-10 01:43:21 PM
New Cliches:

"______ing the race card"

"let's roll"

"American-hater"

"_____ are just a bunch of whiners"

"if you don't like it, leave"

ad nauseum, ad infinitum, blah blah blah blah
 
2002-03-10 01:44:29 PM

I like how the article AUTOMATICALLY assumes that just because the people who run the Masters didn't change their course out of racism the OF COURSE it isn't racism. Now I'm not saying it is, but to so quickly and completely deny the fact that maybe there is a little tiny bit of predudice going on.

"Now, the green jackets who ran the place back then practiced blatant racism. But the guys who run it now can't afford to." And of course NO ONE who works there today worked there back then because no one working today worked 20 years ago and even though the people who are working today were hired by racists, of course they aren't.


Again, I'm not saying that racism is what is going on here, but to deny it so matter of factly is a bit much. I think that it is possible that there is a possiblility that there is some prejudice gong on here. It may be based on race, or it may be based on age, or just that the people in the masters don't like Tiger on a personal level. Its just funny to me that the person who wrote the article can so instantly decide that there isn't any prejudice involved.

of course I also find it funny when media outlets publish articles that only serve as publicity for other media.

 
2002-03-10 01:49:44 PM
Jimmy Fallon had a funny response to this on SNL last night (and no, I'm not trying to threadjack this into a discussion on the decline of SNL). It was something like "Charles Barkley claims that golf is the most racist sport in the world...but Charles? What about Klanball?"
 
2002-03-10 01:51:48 PM
OK, so that was a really stupid statement by Barkley, since they have constantly changed the course at Agusta through the years as players get better and equipment changes the course as well. Did anyone read the rest of the article in Sports Illustrated, though? While I don't think that I'd vote for him, I'd love to see Barkley run for political office because he's going to speak his mind about everyone and everything and make everyone else have to do the same.

Anyway, Barkley has one of the best all-time quotes. After he threw someone at a bar out a plate glass window during a fight they asked him if he would do anything differently, he said "I'd be on a higher floor next time". Can't beat that.
 
2002-03-10 01:53:12 PM
Jimmy Fallon's a good guy.
 
2002-03-10 02:02:51 PM
B0rg9-That picture scares me and makes me cry.

Why doesn't Barkley do anymore deodorant commercials?He had the suaveness and attitude that just screamed "Speedstick,by Mennen!".
 
2002-03-10 02:05:57 PM
jccalhoun-
augusta and many other courses change their layout. If it wasnt sunday and I wasnt too lazy, Id do the research on course changes made in response to nicklaus. Ever wonder why trevino doesnt do well at the master's. Is it because their anti hispanic? no, it a tough course for a fader/slicer. Im glad Tiger is showing himself for the class act he is, barkley could use a lesson or two.

naderbot-
fallon good, but tina fey is just plain hot. catcher her last nite in that koppel/letterman skit?
 
2002-03-10 02:09:31 PM
1000Airplanes: I agree, Tina Fey is just plain hot, no question about it!
 
2002-03-10 02:11:35 PM
Plus she had the Bush joke last night: "When Stevie Wonder took the stage at the recent presidential gala President Bush waved at him. Realizing his mistake the president turned to his wife and said oh man I hope he didn't see that."
 
2002-03-10 02:16:19 PM
Golf courses change their layouts all the time. It's to keep the course challanging.

Augusta National made some of the fairways longer which plays right into Tiger Wood's game because he is a long ball hitter. If they were doing it to fark over Tiger, they would have SHORTENED the fairways, not lengthened them.

But hey - let's no let fact interfere with a good tirade.
 
2002-03-10 02:17:11 PM
To everyone who came here to talk about the article, I'm sorry I got everyone started on SNL. As stated, that was not my intent, I just wanted to relate the joke which pertained to the article.

On the other hand, is it just me or has the show gotten good again? I couldn't farking stand that show for the longest time but I really enjoyed it last night.
 
2002-03-10 02:28:11 PM
IHateWicker: Tina Fey's facial scar makes her all the more hot.

Kthulhu: There. Much better. I think.
 
2002-03-10 02:40:59 PM
then don't play it ya hump!
 
2002-03-10 02:46:52 PM
A few things:

-Charles is right about golf being racist.

-Charles is wrong about Augusta National changing due to racism.

-A longer course is in Tiger's advantage, since he kills the ball.

-Charles is right about the lack of good role models.

One other thing, if you don't think there's resentment against Tiger, you're crazy. I would say the resentment is cut down the middle. Half because he's a minority (Black/Thai) and half because he's simply the best damn golfer in the world.
 
2002-03-10 02:53:26 PM
If you read the SI article he also says that the big problem with black kids is that their thinking that athletics is the only way to make it sucessfully.
I met him at a bar when I lived in Houston.He was very friendly and funny as hell.
 
2002-03-10 02:55:51 PM
Yaah, another thing. Charles Barkley is the second best thing about the NBA on TV (the first being any Dallas Mavericks game). The TNT half time and post game shows with Sir Charles rival any so-called comedy show on TV.
 
2002-03-10 02:58:52 PM
I'm not saying that there aren't other reasons such as the fact that they change their courses. I play golf, I know. I recall that a course once put a tree in over night during a tournament so that a player couldn't cut across a dogleg.
I'm not saying that Barkley is right or wrong, I'm just saying the author of the article is wrong to dismiss his claims so casually. If he wanted to dismiss Barkley's claims then he could have done as you suggested and noted that, "hey Charles they changed the course for Nicklas X number of times," but he didn't do that.
As far as Travino goes, I don't know this for a fact, but I have been told that Agusta did not want to let him play, but he was so successfull at the time they caved in to let him so that they would not come under media attention for being racist. So according to what I've heard, they did not lift their ban on minorities because they saw that it was wrong but because of public presure.
 
2002-03-10 03:28:58 PM
I'm personally tired of hearing "African Americans" biatchin about everything. Our government is so afraid to be "politically incorrect" that they give them everything. Racism is Alive and Well in America! But its against the average white male...We're being discriminated against by minorities, women...you name it!! Do you ever here white reporters biatchin cuz there aint no black running backs in the NFL?....Whew,.......Thanks
 
2002-03-10 03:36:53 PM
MikeYac I'm personally tired of hearing "African Americans" biatchin about everything.

When African-Americans complain about bias, they are often treated with contempt for even suggesting bias. More and more, the United States seems to be a country where to accuse somebody of being a racist is far more impolite than being one.
 
2002-03-10 03:50:11 PM
MR.MOM: Why is it always "racism"?

Because people have no idea what's going on. The whole "big bad man all chained up so he can't kill you" theme has been done thousands of times, usually with the guy busting out of the chains. It would be a powerful image if it hasn't already been done to death (in fact, it was probably pretty good the first few dozen times). I probably wouldn't have thought anything more than "lame" if I hadn't read this bullshiat attempt at journalism by Captain Dumbass.

There just happen to be some people who see a black man in chains and think of one thing. Of course, they're usually the ones calling everyone else a racist.
 
dg
2002-03-10 04:33:02 PM
I too happen to agree with most of Barkley's comments.

Ratbert, well said.
Things have swung to the other side. Being politically incorrect has actually become the politically correct thing to do.
 
2002-03-10 05:15:19 PM
"Every Black kid thinks the only way he can be successful is through athletics. That is a terrible thing."

I agree.
 
2002-03-10 07:00:53 PM
Well, didn't you know that African-Americans (or any hyphenated-Americans) can't be racists? The only people that can be racists are white males.
 
2002-03-10 07:50:20 PM
Oh, jeez, not that again... "the poor imposed-upon white male"... so sad, so sad. That's just pitiful, MikeYak.
 
2002-03-10 09:33:19 PM
I guess what I meant to relate to was the old double-standard that allows blacks in the media to say almost anything about anyone with virtually no response from the media.....BUT, let a white person say anything negative about a black athlete, or black person in general and all hell breaks lose. I find it especially bothersome when a black athlete making millions of dollars does nothing but cry about just about everything..ie Barkely, reggie White, The Williams sisters to name a few. Like some one else mentioned in one of the responses..you DO NOT have to be white to be a racist.
 
2002-03-10 09:45:10 PM
They probably are racist.

But, on a lighter note, look how fat Barkley got.
 
2002-03-10 09:45:35 PM
Having a hard time understanding what the reason for the cover of this mag was. How has Barkley's life, been ANYTHING in comparison to slavery???
 
2002-03-10 09:52:03 PM
you DO NOT have to be white to be a racist.

But, you do have to be in a position of power to discriminate against someone. And so, a few racists in positions of authority, can do a lot of damage.

Also, I would argue that any black who tries to suggest that there might still, in 2002, be some inequalities in our system for minorities, is ripped into immediately for "playing the race card" etc. They are criticized or their opinions discounted even before the matter is investigated. Take the Williams sisters - you're telling me, there was virtually no response from the media?! It was a circue, the top story, and the reports painted the sisters as complainers, whiners with no valid arguments.
 
2002-03-10 09:53:34 PM
And even though the SI cover is stupid, he's got a point about blacks and athletics.
 
2002-03-10 10:09:01 PM
I agree that in some cases blacks are accused of "playing the race card" when in reallity they arent. But, in the same respect, Dont you think in some cases the race card is used unjustly? Not only in sports but in everyday life. Where I work, someone (a white guy) once told a black person who was "being picked on" for lack of a better phrase, to call the NAACP. Racism was in no way a factor. I just think situations like this are wrong. (WOW, this conversation is getting deep...lol)
 
2002-03-10 10:18:47 PM
I think race is a tricky thing. Sometimes, people overreact and overcompensate, but then I would argue that there are many more times, when people just do nothing and pretend nothing's wrong. I try to treat everyone... oh shiat, Crouching Tiger's on Starz - gotta go. :)
 
2002-03-10 10:18:57 PM
One last comment on Barkely...I agree that young black kids are being taught that sports or music may be theyre only way out of poverty...I do blame the media to some extent for "glamourizing the lifestyles of some of these stars. I guess the stars themselves should be a little more responsible.
 
2002-03-10 11:31:17 PM
DiamondDave: Congrats on the limk submission, and good luck to the Panthers. But let me join the chorus that thinks Sir Charles is
I'm going to move to Alabama just so I can vote for him.
 
2002-03-11 03:44:55 AM
I like guys like John Rocker and Charles Barkley, who have the ability to stir people up. It's funny.
 
2002-03-11 06:16:28 AM
When talent and intelligence fail, this type of behavior becomes the only thing left for a public figure. Go private.
 
2002-03-11 10:26:24 AM
I live here, in AUGUSTA, and The Augusta National does NOT change the course. It's been the same for years! What a farking dipshiat. Blah blah racism, smashism.
 
2002-03-11 10:36:17 AM
hrm... so they added a few yards. I really don't see a reason to biatch about it, other than he's got to run his mouth about someone or something. And I suppose he thinks that the added yardage ONLY affects Tiger Woods' game. The course itself is massive, I've walked it plenty, and if ya can't hang, ya can't hang. It would appear that Tiger would have a good chance due to his age and the other old farts that are invited back every year know every inch of the grounds, and proably know exactly how to shoot at each hole. Almost like some kind of training, being set in the way they shoot there. So he gets a fresh look on things. *shrug* This is going to be a very angry day. *sigh*
 
2002-03-11 10:37:52 AM
So, Fark runs a censored site. Congratulations and so much for freedom of expression. Look at the posts above. Inane, watered down and weak. I'm starting to stutter so I'll quit now before it turns to a seizure....
 
2002-03-11 10:37:53 AM
Oh, and one more thing, a lot of the ole timers who DO return year after year... half of them don't even give a crap about their game, they come to party and have fun in Augusta, at the Augusta National. NOT to steal the Green Jacket.
 
2002-03-11 11:41:41 AM
beer beer
 
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