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2005-01-23 06:41:31 PM  
This looks kinda cool - anyone have any experience with them?
2005-01-23 07:26:09 PM  
Jeff: Anyone have any experience with them

No, but I used something a lot like this a long time ago. It was basically just a soda siphon - you put a flavour syrup in normal water before injecting it with carbon dioxide from a gas bulb. It worked really well, but you had to keep buying the damn CO2 bulbs, which were a one-hit affair.

It looks like the main difference with this one is that the CO2 buld is much bigger, so you have to replace it less often (110 bottles of soda, according to their web site). That can't be bad.

My 2c worth.
2005-01-23 07:37:37 PM  
Oh, MAN, I've got a killer idea:

2005-01-23 07:39:10 PM  
if i could make surge i would definitely buy
2005-01-23 07:39:25 PM  
I saw something like this like 10 years ago. This looks better though.
2005-01-23 07:39:35 PM  
I used to have something like that. One day we carbonated some milk and dared each other to drink it (I was like 8 years old).
2005-01-23 07:39:59 PM  
you mean "pop"
2005-01-23 07:40:05 PM  
I've had samples of it in the mall (they had a stand there)... It wasn't half bad.
2005-01-23 07:40:13 PM  
for the UK farkers, remember SodaStream?
2005-01-23 07:40:53 PM  
They've been hocking this crap for at least a year in bigger the little carts in the middle. Too expensive, considering all the weird brands that make off-flavors anyway.
2005-01-23 07:42:05 PM  
exactly mjmuller,

Qhat the fark is soda? That's almost as bad as calling all pop "coke"!!! Goddamn Atlanta...
2005-01-23 07:46:16 PM  
or as it's called in the civilized world - 'soft drink'

this reeks of an advertisement - what the hell is interesting about this?
2005-01-23 07:47:23 PM  
SodaStream is still available.

Is this really a new thing in the US? This has been and (almost) gone in the UK. Didn't it appear in the 70s?
2005-01-23 07:47:28 PM  
BeerMonster: That's almost as bad as calling all pop "coke"!!!

You're right. Not all soda / pop is worthy of being called Coke. People need to distinguish between "Coke" and "other crap."
2005-01-23 07:48:41 PM  
MadonnaC - yep, somebody's dug out the moulds.
2005-01-23 07:49:02 PM  
Sure are a lot of artificial flavors in syrups that don't need them (ginger ale?).
2005-01-23 07:50:18 PM  
Will it make you Mid-Westerners feel better if I call it "sody pop"??
2005-01-23 07:52:09 PM  
so instead of shopping for soda pop professionally made you shop for syrups and co2 canisters then make it yourself.

i can save minutes a decade !
2005-01-23 07:52:38 PM  
Awesome, the 00000 zip code is accepting orders.
2005-01-23 07:52:55 PM  
Why the hell has no one marketed a chocolate Coke yet...that was by far the best soda I've had in my life. Apparently I was born 25 years too late, as the only place I've seen it is in those "retro" cafes, like Johnny Rockets.
2005-01-23 07:53:09 PM  
My grandmother in England had the same sort of thing back in the early 1960s. Not that there's anything wrong with that! A lot of older stuff is cool. People get something new, use it a lot, get over exposed to it, and then forget it until a new generation rediscovers it.

For all I know her use of it in the 1960s was a rediscovery of it from the 1920s or something.
2005-01-23 07:54:54 PM  
Ah Sodastream, the maker of Fizzy milk and fizzy Vinegar!!!
2005-01-23 07:55:29 PM  
2005-01-23 07:57:03 PM  
Hmm.. fizzy everclear?
2005-01-23 07:57:40 PM  
I had that idea (home soda maker) years and years ago. No money, no business experience. Someone beat me to it.
2005-01-23 07:58:05 PM  
I'll just stick to making beer and wine at home.
2005-01-23 07:59:05 PM  
Ah Sodastream, the maker of Fizzy milk and fizzy Vinegar!!!

Fizzy vinegar? Now that would make a festive douche.
2005-01-23 08:01:34 PM  
If I could make Citra I'd buy it.
2005-01-23 08:02:56 PM  
wake me when they have the in-home-do-it-yourself,in only minutes, vodka maker
2005-01-23 08:04:41 PM  
I agree with glip. Use yeast and make alcohol w/ carbonation.

/waiting for my batch of cider to carbonate.
2005-01-23 08:07:28 PM  
The first rule of Soda Club is you do not talk about Soda Club.
2005-01-23 08:07:33 PM  
Kinda cool, but not worth whoring out a thread for. Please reserve this sort of thing for beer related products.
2005-01-23 08:07:46 PM  
friend of mine has had this for at least a year or so now. how is this green-light worthy?
2005-01-23 08:08:50 PM  
I had that idea (home soda maker) years and years ago. No money, no business experience. Someone beat me to it.

Same thing happened to me with the the B-2 bomber.
2005-01-23 08:10:07 PM  

Essentially little more than a soda siphon:

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reworked with overpriced accessories and kid friendliness. Google suggests that they've been around since 1837.

Anyone seen my anorak ?
2005-01-23 08:11:58 PM  
you mean "pop"

No, we mean "soda". :P
2005-01-23 08:12:13 PM  
Ah Sodastream, the maker of....fizzy Vinegar!!!

Isn't it cheaper to just add baking soda?
2005-01-23 08:12:20 PM  
I feel your pain agonyscene... Surge was one of those pops I absolutely loved back in the mid 90s, that and Josta...
2005-01-23 08:12:43 PM  
Shouldn't this one have a PLUG tsg?
2005-01-23 08:13:08 PM  
fark that, make BEER!

Beer Man Microbrewery
2005-01-23 08:19:15 PM  
Get Busy with the Fizzy!

We've had it in the UK since 1903 apparently.

Unless you want carbonated milk or other unusual flavours you're better off just buying stores own brand of drinks - they taste like ass as well but you don't have to faff around with CO2 canisters.
2005-01-23 08:19:38 PM  
See, this almost had me excited.

All I want is a soda fountain installed in my house, dammit!
2005-01-23 08:19:49 PM green bean casserole flavor? Blah.

Now this stuff was the shiznit: The Pop Shoppe
2005-01-23 08:19:50 PM  
Late 70's in England this was released ("Get busy with the fizzy, soda stream *pfz* *pfz*). The CO tubes cost alot, but you took them back to the store to trade in on the next one. I still remember my mum bringing one home and telling us we couldn't use it until she'd put the plug on it... Gotta laugh.
Mistakes to learn from.
Do NOT put the syrup in first, it makes it spray out every where.
Be careful to pour the syrup in slowly after carbonation, or it makes it spray out everywhere.
Make sure the bottle is seated on the plinth correctly, or when you press the button, it.... yup, sprays out everywhere (seeing the trend yet?)
Use water, and only water from the tap, other liquids spray out everywhere (was limited to non-alcoholic beverages in my youth, hey! maybe it works different for beer). Vinegar doesn't work, and stings when spraying everywhere.
Attempting to 'Double the fiz' by re-doing results in? Yup...
And finally, no matter how interesting a flavour it sounds like, Peach syrup is absolutely awful, horrible, horrible stuff.
2005-01-23 08:20:32 PM  
ethorn10 and others who are wondering - how is this green-light worthy?

Read the initial entry in this thread....Farkers, meet Jeff. Jeff, meet Farkers.

/Jeff is teh cool, and (from my limited experience and all other accounts) a great bloke to boot.
2005-01-23 08:24:04 PM  
I seem to remember Sodastream wasn't actually that much cheaper than buying fizzy drinks the normal way.

And the drinks tasted quite crappy.

And it broke easily.

And the replacement canisters are expensive.

This looks like the same kind of thing...
Of course I could be wrong.
2005-01-23 08:26:11 PM  
how is this green-light worthy?

click here for the answer
2005-01-23 08:29:15 PM  
Gelatinous:You haven't lived until you've had a Natty Ice Slurpee.

(P.S.:Just forget you have one in the freezer,take it out frozen,cut the can with a pocketknife and dump in cup with a bendy straw.Just like 7-11,I swear. :)
2005-01-23 08:29:47 PM  
Sucralose sucks ass. High fructose corn syrup sucks ass. Give me the Blue Sky formula.
2005-01-23 08:30:15 PM  
It will look nice in the attic next to the bread machine and exercise bike.
2005-01-23 08:30:15 PM  
Actually in New England it is So-Der.

Anyone ever have Fizzy Lifting Drink? No one should alert Willy Wonka of this home made contraption...he'd die!
2005-01-23 08:32:35 PM  
Waste of money, as a homebrewer I can bottle 5 gallons of rootbeer for just the cost of extract and sugar. Bottle condition it and have 30 22 ounce bottles ready to drink in 3 days fully carbonated.
2005-01-23 08:33:20 PM  
Well, it'd be cool if I didn't have to waste money on their flavourings. How would one go about making their own? There's lots of retired drinks I'd love to re-create.... like that citrus soda (whose name escapes me). It was out around the time of Surge, but it was in a yellow can.
2005-01-23 08:33:41 PM  
I loved the Pop Shoppe! My favorite flavors were Grape and Lime! Haven't seen one in years, according to the article you posted they may me making a resurgence!!!! The place where I work now has a pop shoppe sticker on the emergency door, damn tease!
2005-01-23 08:34:58 PM  
My nephew is a fool for root beer, so last summer I made up a five gallon batch for him.

Used Zatarain's root beer extract, cane sugar (screw corn syrup), a little yeast, water, and bottled it up.

Came out pretty good...
2005-01-23 08:37:10 PM  
I bought myself one of these for xmas this year. its GREAT! dont want to put a damper on your ideas, but you can only carbonate plain cold tap water. if you add flavoring, or oils etc to the water before you carbonate it, you will have a mess on your hands.

the machine is safe, priced reasonably, and making my own flavors from juice concetrates instead of their syrup works well and is tasty (although their syrup aint bad)

wierdest flavor ive tried was vanilla frappucino... gross.

another wierd thing is that the Co2 ranks come with a end user licence agreement... wierd.
2005-01-23 08:40:38 PM  
can you carbonate pure alcohol?
2005-01-23 08:42:07 PM  
hiroshi912681: It was out around the time of Surge, but it was in a yellow can.

Kick? That was my favourite.
2005-01-23 08:42:14 PM  
Mmmm, Pepsi Blue.
[those that have a clue know to which I refer]
2005-01-23 08:46:37 PM  
If you don't have any interest in this thread, please move on. Jeff wanted to see if others have had experience with the soda maker. That's all it is.
2005-01-23 08:48:22 PM  
Starter kits $10 off, but if you are ordering something else, use the coupon code "KSE10" and you get 10% off your order. Plus supposedly a percentage is donated to tree hugging kids. Everyone wins!
2005-01-23 08:49:12 PM  
No, it wasn't Kick.

But for some reason it just hit me. It was CITRA. I used to buy that stuff all the time. It was waaay better than Surge.
2005-01-23 08:52:26 PM  
looks way too expensive.

CO2 - $56.97 / 330 litres = $0.17 / litre
Syrup - $2.99 / 12 litres = $0.25 / litre

2 litre bottle = $0.84

About as much as I pay for the same generic crap I can buy at the supermarket, without spending $100 on the machine. Not to mention needing to use bottled water to create it anyways. City tap water is disgusting to drink, with or without flavouring to cover it up.
2005-01-23 08:52:44 PM  
WAIT A SECOND... What if I let my beer go flat and then use this device to re-carbonate it with NITROUS OXIDE!

I think I may be on to the "next BIG thing" here...
2005-01-23 08:53:39 PM  
A comment for those who aren't privy to living in the south:

There is no such thing as pop, soda, fizzy water, sody pop, etc. There is only Coke. When ordering a carbonated beverage in the south, you ask for a Coke, and they ask what kind of Coke that you would like.

Therefore, everything is Coke.
2005-01-23 08:57:43 PM  

2005-01-23 07:39:10 PM agonyscene

if i could make surge i would definitely buy

that beverage single handedly turned me into a Pepsi/Mountain Dew Drinker for life, Before that I was way into the Mello Yello, Now they bring it back, and it just isn't the same. I've still got a can of that nasty green stuff sitting around though...
2005-01-23 08:57:56 PM  
This seemed like something I might buy, until I read the ingredients. Even the non-diet flavors have Acesulfame K, and Sucralose in them. I avoid diet products because of ingredients such as those, and now the non-diet products have them too?
2005-01-23 08:58:00 PM  
Blueracer, i was jsut about to say that!

Yeah, When you go over to someone's house, they ask you if you want a coke. And you could say dr pepper.
2005-01-23 08:58:15 PM  
Even worse, if you say Coke its; "Is Pepsi OK?"

If you say Pepsi its; "Is Coke OK?"

Now I just say "cola please" and hope for the best...

Never cared much if it is called pop or soda or even soda-pop, I am able to 'understand' both terms... Calling everything 'coke' is just plain stupid though...
2005-01-23 09:03:31 PM  
In the world of Coke, Pepsi is inferior, confined only to restaurants who think Mr. Pibb(yes, a coke product) is an accurate substitute for Dr. Pepper.

Calling everything Coke isn't stupid, it's a way of life!
2005-01-23 09:04:24 PM  
You know, it must be impossible for a spanish speaking person to order SELTZER and not get SALSA.
2005-01-23 09:04:29 PM  
Why the hell has no one marketed a chocolate Coke yet...that was by far the best soda I've had in my life. Apparently I was born 25 years too late, as the only place I've seen it is in those "retro" cafes, like Johnny Rockets.

Step 1: Pour some Hershey's syrup into glass
Step 2: Pour some Coke into glass
Step 3: Mix well with spoon

Ta da! Chocolate Coke you can make at home!
2005-01-23 09:04:37 PM  
When I visited my brother in Germany, they sold carbonated water and juices. Once you go to carbonated water and apple juice, it's depressing to go back to regular. :(
2005-01-23 09:04:50 PM  
I make a rule that if I ask for a Coke and they say "Is Pepsi Ok?" that I have to instead say, "No, I'll have a bud light."

/I like my waitresses confused
2005-01-23 09:05:18 PM  
I've been making home brew beer for years, and I have used the same equipment to make soda. I always used champagne yeast for carbonation, but you have to be very careful not to use too much or you can get a big (and messy) surprise.
2005-01-23 09:10:22 PM  
Ugh i hate carbonated water.

When i went to Italy it seems everyone loved carbonated water.

Tastes like shiat. Made me want to drink diet cola over carbonated weater.
2005-01-23 09:13:23 PM  
The good thing about diet soda (pop) is that when the waitress ask what type of beverage I wanted, I'd say "Diet." That way, I won't get "Would ______ be OK?"

Of course, all bets are off when she says "Diet Sprite or Diet Coke?"

I've also looked at the caffeine contents of Soda Club's drinks. With the exception of the Dr Pepper knockoff, their colas have less caffeine. Meh. I want my caffeine!
2005-01-23 09:15:32 PM  

Why the hell has no one marketed a chocolate Coke yet...that was by far the best soda I've had in my life. Apparently I was born 25 years too late, as the only place I've seen it is in those "retro" cafes, like Johnny Rockets.

I've often thought the same thing, but there's a very specific reason why they haven't marketed chocolate Coke -- they haven't been able to make it self-stable yet. Even when I order it at Ed Debevics (since I'm too young to know soda fountains, too), they give it to me with the spoon because the chocolate settles to the bottom rather quickly. Imagine trying to sell Chocolate Coke in a can and requiring people to shake before opening, and you see the problem.

But there is hope. The same problem plagued Cherry Coke until they figured out how to make it stable. Someday we may have Chocolate Coke away from retro cafes... I certainly hope so.
2005-01-23 09:16:24 PM  
/erm, shelf-stable, that is.
2005-01-23 09:19:43 PM  
TotallyFarkedDude: Mmmm, Pepsi Blue.
[those that have a clue know to which I refer]

Hey, you probably could use this machine to make that. Just get some Windex and carbonate it!

2005-01-23 09:20:03 PM  
RIP OFF -- Based on the goinig rate for soda at the local supermarket, Non-commercial 'soda-pop' can be bought for $0.50 per two liter bottle. after additional supplies for the supplied soda you end up paying 3 times as much.
2005-01-23 09:21:44 PM  
i used to work with a guy who bought one of those at the "big fresno fair" and was so proud that he bought and equally proud of his smart economic sense (instead of paying 89 cents for 2 litre bottle at the store i can make it at home for 86 cents!) that he brought it to work ... i enjoyed laughing at him then... and now i will review his poor judgement and laugh again ... and fear not, i will also laugh at some of my new fark friends who will buy this

/sips iced tea
2005-01-23 09:22:35 PM  
Rodrigues: looks way too expensive.

I agree.
2005-01-23 09:22:37 PM  
I had a friend that had something like this about 10 years ago, except that he bought the syrup for the brand name sodas.

Also, instead of the high prices to refill the CO2 cartridges, he just brought his to the local paint ball place and they just charged him $2 to fill it up again for him. He said he couldn't taste the difference.

If I knew the cartridges could still be refilled at the paint ball store and I knew I could get my "diet pepsi vanilla" I'd buy one in a second. I'm sick of lugging bottles around.
2005-01-23 09:30:46 PM  
Still though, I wonder how 'fresh' fresh soda really tastes. Plus there are some people that think Fountain soda is > bottles. I would think this would be much closer to actual fountainy goodness.

I have read you can use any Syrup, if you can get your hands on the real stuff (Coke, Pepsi, etc..) you are in luck. From what I have read awhile ago though these places are hesitant to sell to the public, apparently soda machine rental thefts are very common.

Seltzer only, or Seltzer flavored waters would make a nice product.. You can use their syrups at reduced levels, or natural fruit juices.

Then again, theres the old fasioned way to make your own soda, good ole' yeast! Heres a link.
2005-01-23 09:36:21 PM  

Grape was my favorie too! One can only hope for a Pop Shoppe ressurection!
2005-01-23 09:36:51 PM  
I wonder if you could super-carbonate a bottle of pepsi with this machine, and thus create a ticking time bomb?
2005-01-23 09:37:46 PM  
I've got one and I love it. I like all the flavors. I didn't buy it to save money though. You could get the generic stuff for super cheap or wait for sales. What I do is make my soda as strong or as weak as I like. I super carbonate my stuff and the bottles for the kit keep it bubbly for a long time. It's got a sealed cap and all. The book that comes with it teaches you how to make all kinds of alcoholic drinks (I don't drink but it looks like it would be great for parties) and how to copy your favorite name brand stuff. I make Livewire all the time. My favortie though is not having my fridge jammed full of soda all the time. I just take a bottle and fill it with my faucet (I've got a Pur system) and then make whatever flavor I'm in the mood for right then. If I want orange - boom. If I want rootbeer - boom. I strongly suggest it to people who like making stuff. I get my CO2 refilled at a local boozery. Same people who would fill your keg can fill it. I thought about going to a PB store but I worry that their CO2 isnt filtered for human consumption. Only costs like 2 bucks at a beer store anyway. I tell everyone out there about them. I cant say enough good stuff. The syrup containers last a long time. I been talking with the coke guy who fills our cafe at work about hooking me up with the big boxes of syrup. That would last easily a year.
2005-01-23 09:41:48 PM  
fark yeah, now I only have to figure out the recipie for crystal clear pepsi!
2005-01-23 09:44:18 PM  
I'm only interested if there's a way for me to bring back OK Soda with this.

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2005-01-23 09:47:18 PM  
It's like $150.
I haven't spent $150 on soda in a year.
I also don't have to order supplies to get soda. I pick it up wherever I am.
I think this is a waste of money.
2005-01-23 09:48:27 PM  
Do the math folks it looks cool and all but with the Co2 and the syrup the machine itself and the time it will cost more then the soda you can get at the store.
2005-01-23 09:49:59 PM  
What is to stop people from buying cheap carbonated water in monster bottles and THEN add the syrup?

I bet you that will be cheaper. And you dont need to buy another piece of dust-gathering machinery for the kitchen.
2005-01-23 09:55:34 PM  
Well, it'd be cool if I didn't have to waste money on their flavourings. How would one go about making their own? There's lots of retired drinks I'd love to re-create.... like that citrus soda

Are you talking about cactus cooler? Thats good stuff, I can they only sell it in so. cal.
2005-01-23 10:04:27 PM  
Boo Advertisements, cause that's all that was.
2005-01-23 10:23:43 PM  
Heh, I've had one of these for years!!! Mine's called the carbonator, and I think it's from the pop shoppe. The mountain dew doesn't taste like real dew. It's like it's own flavor... it's pretty cool actually.
2005-01-23 10:32:18 PM  
Buy the syrup and a seltzer bottle, it'll be a lot cheaper.
2005-01-23 10:37:35 PM  
Hey, will some please put glacier water in alloy cans? Is that too much to ask for? Why has no one ever attempted this?

Drinking water is a huge mother ass business and the alloy cans would work very well with storing them in my fridge.

Call it "Stackwell Water" :/
2005-01-23 10:37:39 PM  
Seems like a waste of money on crappy, generic soft drinks.

However, I've always wondered what it would be like to drink carbonated, straight Jack Daniels.

Might almost be worth buying this thing for such an experiement.
2005-01-23 10:38:26 PM  
Thought this would be an ad for homebrew extracts.

After hundreds of gallons of wine and beer, the only explosion I ever had was a gallon of root beer.

Stickin to making booze.
2005-01-23 10:41:05 PM  
I've been using this for about three months now. Here's my feedback.

Yes, it is pricey. I am a soda addict, and also obsessively keep track of my finances with Quicken, so I can say that this hasn't significantly decreased my soda expenditures. The CO2 canisters are the most expensive component of the "system". The syrups are quite cheap, although they've annoyed me greatly by recently jacking up the price $1.00 more per bottle on the more popular ones.

However, there are some benefits. The main one is that I am diabetic, and their diet drinks use Splenda, not aspartame, which is a good thing. Another benefit is that I no longer have to lug 6-packs or 2-liter bottles from the store, and then I no longer have to put the empties into the recyling box.

The flavors are hit-and-miss. Their diet cola is, to my taste, yucky, but then they have others which I like a lot (diet pink grapefruit is yummy!!). Their special bottles, which are 1-liter size, keep the sparkling carbonation fresh much longer than an opened 2-liter bottle of commercial soda, which goes flat way too fast. I think the homemade generally tastes much fresher, and I don't worry about running into "skunky" cans of soda from the vending machine.

It's also very convenient to be able to "fix up a flavor" on a whim; if I keep four bottles of tap water cold in the fridge, and I have six or seven syrup flavors available, I can drink whatever strikes my mood at the moment. It only takes a minute to "do" a bottle - not time-consuming at all.

And they have an almost-perfect version of Pepsi Blue (aka "Smurf Juice"), which I loved, and grieved when it was no longer available on the market. Of course, since I was diagnosed recently as type-II, I can only have the Fizzy Blue on rare occasions (it's non-diet), but it's a rare treat that I look forward to.

It's definitely not gathering dust in my kitchen - I use it even more than the Foreman grill, which is the only other "fad" gadget that I use on a regular basis.
2005-01-23 10:48:25 PM  
wonder if someone could find out the recepie for Wild Cherry Pepsi... The ORIGINAL one... That "new and improved" tasting one they've got out now sucks more than a $2 wh0re...

Give me original WCPepsi, or give me death!
2005-01-23 11:01:27 PM  
One of the primary reasons that americans are such fat asses is this stupid obsession with soda. Start drinking water when you're thirsty and you'll feel much better.
2005-01-23 11:08:54 PM  

The DietRite brand uses Splenda. Since it is not a premier brand, you can usually pick it up for $2 - $2.50 for a 12 pack of cans. The only one I drink is their Cola flavor and it tastes just like Royal Crown (not be confused with Crown Royal). After all DietRite is made by RC! (sadly no moonpie for you...)
2005-01-23 11:10:30 PM  
FarkinNortherner: Essentially little more than a soda siphon:

Yup...I've had a soda siphon for years. The CO2 cartridges are cheap and available. The only thing this device has going for it is the marketing for the flavors. The other thing it might have is the little dongle that puts a jet of carbonated water in the glass-- in old style soda fountians that little extra was a "Jerk"....that puts a extra powerful stream in the glass.

If you're remotely intrested in this kinda of thing, get a soda siphon first like FarkinNortherner posted. Cheaper and more functional--you can also use it for 'three stooges' moments.
2005-01-23 11:17:54 PM  
Mmm...fizzy 151...
2005-01-23 11:17:59 PM  
No more schlepping.

Good to know.
2005-01-23 11:21:07 PM  
Bacon flavored soda.

I declare thread victory.
2005-01-23 11:23:33 PM  
wow, 20 year old technology

what will they think of next? home brewed beer?
2005-01-23 11:43:57 PM  
I hate it when people refer to all soda as "Coke". All my hick relatives do that. They're the sort of people who have nothing better to do than to form allegiances with soda.

"You want somethin' ta drink?"
"Sure, I'll have a Pepsi."
Hushed silence.

I'm going to start referring to all cars as Porsches. It makes about as much sense. My relatives probably already do that, too. They also form tight bonds with auto manufacturers (and NASCAR drivers). They're also those annoying people who will tell you what Ford could be an abbreviation of.
2005-01-23 11:48:59 PM  
UncleFriendly, I would like to introduce you to the wonderful world of language.
2005-01-23 11:57:47 PM  
I miss Big Peach. The most bestest coka sodola ever.
2005-01-24 12:04:50 AM  
all I have to say to you british folk is.... SHOPPES THEATRES AND CENTRES DONT EXIST. PERIOD! the US' foriegn policy might be evil, but let's face it: I dont care where your from, you live in america damn it!


/flame on biatch
2005-01-24 12:08:45 AM  

Why the hell has no one marketed a chocolate Coke yet...that was by far the best soda I've had in my life. Apparently I was born 25 years too late, as the only place I've seen it is in those "retro" cafes, like Johnny Rockets.

If you have a Sonic in your area, you can get them there. Good stuff, it is.
2005-01-24 12:10:13 AM  
The Pop Shoppe!

I miss that place, for a kid it was heaven, all those great flavors, sugary as hell.

We have a place here in Phoenix that has about 200 types of soda, including all the foreign mixes of Coca Cola. They sell kegs of root beer and all kinds of hard to find stuff.

THey do lots of sales on the internet.

You can order at

get that hard to find bubble up or Mr. Pibb
2005-01-24 12:21:04 AM  
my two cents re: chocolate coke...

if you're near a sonic, they have chocolate coke, chocolate cherry coke and a billion other combinations. never looked tempting to me, but the diet coke with cherry covers up the "diet coke" taste (i hate diet coke - diet pepsi or diet mt. dew code red is all i drink). diet cherry limeade (a.k.a. diet sprite with diet cherry syrup) on the other hand, tastes like complete and utter ass.
2005-01-24 12:23:40 AM  
Why the hell would I want to buy that stuff when I can get perfectly fine RC Cola at the supermarket?
2005-01-24 12:25:18 AM  
anyone out east (i.e. philly) in the early nineties (when i was a wee girl) remember fire engine red birch beer and blue birch beer? i've been looking for that for years now, and the popsoda place only has regular... not the same.
2005-01-24 12:28:31 AM  
This is actually perfect for me, because I like soda (cola, lemon/lime) taste but the soda fizz has always annoyed me. Now I can make the drink I've wanted on the cheap!

Thanks, submitter!

/Another FARK success story
2005-01-24 12:39:50 AM  
Soda? What's soda? I think they must mean Pop.
2005-01-24 12:48:08 AM  
You could also pay as much fora REAL carbonator [ebay]
Get a big bottle of CO2, and a jockey box, and you could have several flavors at your fingertips.
2005-01-24 01:03:03 AM  
Soda, cola, pop, Coke, Pepsi, whatever you want to call it... I miss it terribly. I developed a SEVERE caffiene allergy about 8 years ago, and haven't had a drop since. No soda (cola, pop, etc) or coffee in EIGHT FRIGGIN YEARS!

Oh, and before someone starts spouting off about "Caffiene free", that doesn't mean jack. Just means it has 2% or less caffiene in it. Which is STILL enough to have me doing my Linda Blair imitation with one sip.
2005-01-24 01:13:12 AM  
1 cup of your favorite cold coffee + sugar + soda water = delicious!
2005-01-24 01:26:33 AM  
diet caffeine free Big K cola (kroger brand) is where it's at. $3 for 24 of em. i wish beer were that cheap...
2005-01-24 01:28:09 AM  
Wow, that's so nice of them to suggest Splenda.

I wonder if they give discount coupons for bladder cancer treatment?
2005-01-24 01:58:15 AM  
Soda, schmoda. Slurpie's are where it's at.
2005-01-24 02:33:05 AM  
Cuddles, I know you warned against it, but I have to spout off about "Caffeine free": 7up has caffeine? Orange fanta? I have my doubts.
2005-01-24 02:58:32 AM  
What a biatch link. Maybe they should ban the submitter.
2005-01-24 03:09:24 AM  
jonasborg: What a biatch link. Maybe they should ban the submitter.

Submitter here:

You just wish you could live in a town where they called pop "soda"

/From the south and proud of it.
2005-01-24 04:40:16 AM  
"Lisa, I made some homemade Pepsi! It's a little thick, but the price is right"
2005-01-24 08:01:13 AM  
I've been a Soda Club customer for a little over a year now. It's awesome. My wife drinks tons of seltzer; I drink tons of Mt Dew. Our soda machine paid for itself in three months. We now make seltzer for about 11c a liter, fake mountain dew for about 30c a liter. Not only is it cheaper, but we don't have to lug 2l bottles from the store any more -- we just make some when we want some.

The Mt Dew simulacrum isn't perfect, but it's close. Plus, I can make it more or less sweet, and more or less carbonated, based on my whim.

I don't drink cola, so I can't speak for their cola varieties, but my MIL said she likes'em.
2005-01-24 08:49:47 AM  
yea, there's tons easier ways to do this; the CO2 carts are cheap as anything at the local BB gun store. there's even refillable ones.

I remember the real good ones as a kid (allot of bars had seltzer makers) and they are all damn less expensive(and from a little research, better made and cheaper to operate) than this thing. and the on-demand ones make a little more sense then plopping allot of dough down on this contraption.

hell you can just buy syrup from most supermarkers really cheap.

froogle (check google) came up with about 2 dozen cheaper solutions then this link.
2005-01-24 09:26:56 AM  
The Diceman weighed in on the SODA vs. POP issue:
"These farkin' farmers invite me over. Those morons. They ask me, 'Would'ja like a glass a' pop?' Huh? Who said what to who? 'Would'ja like a glass a' pop?' What, is your old man gonna (kill kittens) in a glass for me? It's soda, it says so right on the side of the can, farmer. You had too much of your own stock or something?"
Picture Grandpa in said action. I think you'll find 'soda' more refreshing than 'pop' now.

/off to Sonic to try their 'chocolate Coke'
//wondering if it would be good with Jack Daniel's
2005-01-24 09:27:47 AM  
We own one, and it's not too bad. The main upside for us is most of the syrups use a corn syrup/sucralose mix so it's sort of like the C2 Coke calorie-wise. I probably wouldn't recommend it unless somebody drank a LOT of soda and was looking to cut back their calorie count (and liked the taste).
2005-01-24 09:56:03 AM  
TheRealShadowspawn: CO2 carts are cheap as anything at the local BB gun store

Avoid lubricated cartridges. Yuck.
2005-01-24 10:47:26 AM  
2005-01-24 11:41:41 AM  
Interesting link, donquixote235 - definitely has me reconsidering Totalfark...
2005-01-24 11:58:28 AM  
For the real thing in your home, you can buy a soda fountain on eBay for about $875 (cheaper, like $200, if you can find a used one). Just add CO2 & Syrup and enjoy!

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2005-01-24 12:23:36 PM  
why spend all that money on CO2 cartridges just to make water fizzy when you can spend about the same amount to get N20 cartridges and make your brain all fizzy instead?

/nitrous oxide, not just for dentists
2005-01-24 12:58:48 PM  
I hate you, Fantastic_Dan. I was all looking forward to making that unnecessary Simpsons quote, and then right before I get to the bottom of the thread, there you are.

"Aww... my homemade Kahlua!"
-Homer Simpson

/not the same...
2005-01-24 01:01:31 PM  
Good lord people, why would you go through all the trouble of buying that machine, then buying syrup and CO2 when you can get a two-litre bottle for 29 cents???

I remember my friend's dad had one and it was absolute shiate except you could use double the syrup to make it super yummy.
2005-01-24 01:30:33 PM  

What do you think about the comments? I have a feeling this is just some stupid paid advertising (you being an admin and all with greenlight powers, right?), so if you could correct me by actually showing up/reading the thread...
2005-01-24 01:50:30 PM  

What do you think about the comments? I have a feeling this is just some stupid paid advertising (you being an admin and all with greenlight powers, right?), so if you could correct me by actually showing up/reading the thread...

This is not an advertisement. It is a fellow TFer trying to get my first greenlight...which i suceeded in doing.

2005-01-24 01:51:11 PM  
submitter here

above ^
2005-01-24 02:57:58 PM  
Hell yes Gelatinous... Hell yes...
2005-01-24 03:50:09 PM  
I need to check out the syrup flavors. I dont have any desire to buy 2 liter bottles of weird crap, so I certainly don't want to make my own weird crap.

The price looks ok, and might be worthwhile.
2005-01-24 03:58:19 PM  
no wonder you're all so fat.
2005-01-24 05:19:42 PM  
Friggin sweet! This takes me back! We had a home soda making system when I was a kid. It was one of those deals in which the guy stopped by once a month and you bought more syrup or CO2 from the guy. I think it was called something like "Charlie O" but it was at least 20 years ago.

I do remember the grape favored soda was a dead ringer for "Grapette" according to my Dad.

My friends & I had fun carbonating stuff other than water such as milk, tea, etc. I never though to try to carbonate alcohol but I was probably 12 at the time......
2005-01-24 05:46:39 PM

Overuse of Nitrous

This 36-year old electrical engineer came to the emergency room complaining that he was unable to walk. Symptoms had begun 4 days earlier with "pins and neeedles" in both feet that gradually worsened and ascended to involve the knees and the fingertips. With worsening of the paresthesias (-no sense of touch or pain-) he noted difficulty in maintaining proper control of the movements of his arms and hands and trouble in walking. He also reported the sensation of electric shocks through his back and legs upon flexion of the neck. He denied bladder or bowel impairment but he had been unable to have an erection for the past week. His past medical history was unremarka- ble except for occasional abuse of alcohol in the past. However he denied any drinking of alcohol for the past 8 months.

For recreational purposes he had inhaled two to three boxes of nitrous oxide, each box containing 24 cartridges, practically every day for the past six months.

When first seen his general physical examination was completely unremarka- ble. The neurological examination showed hyperesthesia and hyperalgesia in the lower extremities up to the knees. He had severe bilateral sensory dystaxia and could only stand with support.

Intramuscular B12 injections were started and during the following days his hematological status inproved, (-apart from neurological symptoms, the functional B12 deficiency caused by N2O also produces megaloblastic anemia,- ed.) although his neurological condition continued to deteriora- te. The paresthesias ascended to the nipples and he developed fecal and urinary incontinence. (- stuff deleted-)

Four weeks later he began to improve and four months after the onset of the symptoms, and his last use of nitrous oxide he could walk with some hesitation and had completely regained bowel and bladder control and sexual function (-stuff deleted-).

Stacey et al

This 32 year old woman was admitted tho the neurology service for inability to walk and paresthesias in her limbs and trunk. Her symptoms began 3 weeks prior to admission with a "tingling" sensation in the soles of her feet, trunk and hands. Her gait bexcame progressively less steady and the day prior to admission she had an episode of urinary incontinence. Her past medical history was significant for bulimia and occasional intranasal use of cocaine. for the previous 3 months she had inhaled nitrous oxide for recreational purposes, up to 200 cartriges a day, three to four times a week. (-stuff deleted, similar neurological signs as above, some antisocial behavior).

Stacey et al
2005-01-24 05:48:01 PM

Nitrous Oxide (laughing gas) is most commonly made by the thermal decomposition of ammonium nitrate (NH4NO3). The chief impurity of the product is N2, although, NO2, N, O2, and CO2 may also be present, however, usually not in any quantity to approach toxcity. The resulting mixture is passed through water for purification.

-- Dale Clark

You left out NO (nitric oxide), NH3 (ammonia), and H2O (water -- the other product of the *successful* reaction). Laughing Gas also states that the temperature (optimum or self-regulating, I don't know) for the reaction is 240 C. But they caution against trying it at home:

Occasionally, following in the footsteps of Priestly and Davy, individuals attempt to synthesize N2O. This is definitely not recommended, for several reasons. First, the synthetic process frequently employed (heating ammonium nitrate) may lead to an explosion, and has been the cause of major accidents and numerous injuries in the industrial synthesis of N2O. Second, other oxides of nitrogen may be obtained as byproducts of the synthetic process. One of these, nitrogen diooxide, is extremely toxic, and can lead to rapid destruction of lung tissue, even if inhaled in small quantities.

From what I read on rec.pyrotechnics, nitrogen dioxide lung damage is permanant and cumulative.

Laughing Gas also states that the boiling point of N2O is -88.44 C and that the partial pressure at 27.4 C is 60 atm (!). Does that mean those little whippits can withstand 60 atm??

I tend to think the danger of explosion is low if you keep the pressure down. The "Dr. Atomic" cartoon instructions even go so far as to make it an open system -- the end is a plastic bag LOOSELY HELD over the last hose. The good doctor says that you should only synthesize it if you are a professional chemist working under controlled laboratory conditions, but in the picture there is a home setup using three flasks. The first one contains the NH4NO3 and is heated. The third is a "bong" type device which bubbles the gas through water. The second is a trap to prevent the "bong" water from reaching the heated flask under negative pressure.

I wouldn't really worry about inhaling small quantities of ammonia, but I'd like to figure out a way to neutralize the NO and NO2. Would they react with baking soda (in the bubble flask)?

The PYRO file from rec.pyrotechnics lists two sources of ammonium nitrate. One is fertilizer, the other is "instant cold packs". I wonder how pure it is...
2005-01-24 05:48:26 PM  
Anyone else ever drink Rondo?
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