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(Guardian)   British drinkers face "threes strikes and you're barred" rule, replacing the more usual "one strike and a seven-foot-tall skinhead bouncer drags you out outside and kicks the holy living crap out of you"   (politics.guardian.co.uk ) divider line
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DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-22 10:51:08 AM  
Yep, the "one strike rule" always worked on me!

/only happened once!
 
2005-01-22 11:14:39 AM  
unless they check everybodys id at the door against a national database, this will never work.
 
2005-01-22 11:15:03 AM  
sing the Manchester United song
 
2005-01-22 11:21:08 AM  
Right! What's all this then?
 
2005-01-22 11:21:18 AM  
Good. Now at 2am in the morning city centres will be safe and free for people to... er... um...

...what the hell are you doing in city centres at pub/club closing times if you aren't one of them? Who are these little old ladies coming home at 2 in the morning being 'harrassed' by drunken youths?
 
2005-01-22 11:23:45 AM  
>...what the hell are you doing in city centres at pub/club closing times if you aren't one of them?

People watching.

This is something I recommend any non-English do when they visit England.
 
2005-01-22 11:24:48 AM  
The end of my "drinking all night at a bar" was wonderful, up until the other three bouncers showed up. Followed very quickly by the asshole Irish barkeep with the billy club leaping off the bar.

I still have a knot on the back of my head to remind me not to get stupid.

Moral of the story, Jose is wonderful in a glass, even better in a body shot; but don't count on it saving your butt when it's four to one.
 
2005-01-22 11:26:09 AM  
DAR: Yep, the "one strike rule" always worked on me!

same here.

Once, at a bar in Hawaii, The bouncers took pictures of me with a Polaroid and told me I was banned for life.
 
2005-01-22 11:27:05 AM  
I smell prohibition!
Or is that the liquor or the drunk next to me? :\
 
2005-01-22 11:27:30 AM  
Then they threw me in the ocean.
 
2005-01-22 11:28:03 AM  
But the package, which is the result of urgent talks this week between Downing Street, the Home Office, the culture department, police, local government and the drinks industry, stops short of banning cheap drink promotions such as "happy hours" or "girls drink free" which are to be discouraged under a new industry code.

The Home Office. George Orwell spoke about the "Ministry of Truth" in 1984, it might as well be these guys.

They are trying everything in their power to submit all UK citizens to "National ID", biometrics, electronic snooping...these guys are a scary bunch. They are trying measures that would make a fan of US "Homeland Security" wet their pants.

Glad I don't live there anymore.

Here's something from a random Googling for "Home Office".
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/002760.html

There's lots more info out there.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-22 11:32:01 AM  
Cohesion:

Once, at a bar in Hawaii, The bouncers took pictures of me with a Polaroid and told me I was banned for life.

Yep, lesson number 526 in life: Never tell a bouncer to shut up you fat fark!

Some lessons in life really hurt!
 
2005-01-22 11:36:11 AM  
Meh a bit of 'Rough Justice' is all you need for a pub/club
 
2005-01-22 11:41:03 AM  
This is just in London? Or what.
 
2005-01-22 12:03:08 PM  
DAR, What got into you to call a bouncer a fat fark?
 
2005-01-22 12:03:12 PM  
Never heard of "girls drink free" promotions. Maybe I should go to sleazier bars.

Also, Why does Wetherspoons hate freedom? If they don't want to open their pubs 24-hour no-one's making them. Why don't they just keep calling time at 11 if that's what makes them happy?

Day_Old_Dutchie

I don't think UK laws are a patch on stuff like the Patriot act...yet. Although it could be heading that way. I think the whole idea of I.D. cards etc. is fairly unpopular though, will probably never happen.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-22 12:05:36 PM  
potato_chip_eating_geek: What got into you to call a bouncer a fat fark?

The words "Last Call" and way to many Zombies which I don't drink since that night!
 
2005-01-22 12:12:04 PM  
GIS for "drunk British"

[image from downloadpornwithdavo.com too old to be available]
 
2005-01-22 12:28:08 PM  
You got me. You got the tater.
 
2005-01-22 12:38:21 PM  
Andy Capp unavailable for comment.
 
2005-01-22 12:55:53 PM  
...what the hell are you doing in city centres at pub/club closing times if you aren't one of them?

Some people are lucky enough to live there.. especially in small places where nightclubs are in residential areas (sounds strange, but tis true).
 
2005-01-22 12:59:25 PM  
Sounds like the next FARK Party should be held over there

/sidetrip to see the queens knickers
//bring Prince Harry along
 
2005-01-22 01:24:32 PM  
"The cost of a new flexible hours opening licence for a large town centre "megapub" is to go up from 10 to 1,905"

That's insane. It sounds like they want to put some places out of business over there.
 
2005-01-22 01:30:48 PM  
Flashman73

I didn't see that image in my GIS for drunk British.
 
2005-01-22 01:38:59 PM  
Some people are lucky enough to live there.. especially in small places where nightclubs are in residential areas (sounds strange, but tis true).

And they can't pop down the local Co-op for a pint of milk at 2 in the morning because someone will call them a twat. Gotcha.

Whitefoxx:

That's insane. It sounds like they want to put some places out of business over there.

Not just some, all. The Government wants 'happy, cohesive communities', not people getting together to have some fun. The practice of going out, drinking away one's inhibitions, meeting new people for no other reason than wanting to and possibly screwing them later on represents humanity at its most individual and animalistic, exactly what the state detests. You try getting people to swear a citizenship or a loyalty oath when they're pissed.

So we get regulation like this with an eventual view to making us all productive members of society, who drink just enough alcohol to keep us quiet at night.

Meanwhile a line of cocaine is now cheaper than a pint of beer.
 
2005-01-22 01:47:24 PM  
'bout that time old chap?

Right-o.
 
2005-01-22 02:40:42 PM  
"...the drinks industry..."

That just sounds cool...
 
2005-01-22 02:50:17 PM  
British drinkers face "threes strikes and you're barred" rule...

Shouldn't it be "threes strikes and you're un-barred"?

"...dis-barred"?

/I suck
 
2005-01-22 03:01:32 PM  
slidell4life: You got me. You got the tater.

Excellent reference. Now take off that hat, homos around here like to wear hats ;)

--- G.
 
2005-01-22 03:03:35 PM  
Whitefoxx
I didn't see that image in my GIS for drunk British.

Turn the safe search off.

I would have put this one in, but it's a bit NSFW (borderline)?
http://www.downloadpornwithdavo.com/d/15-11-03-08.jpg
 
2005-01-22 03:39:44 PM  
At least the Brits and other Europeans don't subscribe to the asinine US legal drinking age of 21. This is all thanks to Ronald Reagan, who proved once and for all when he signed national drinking age of 21 legislation that conservatives don't truly believe state's rights after all, but are actually proponents of the Nanny State.
Now we have college kids binge drinking at unregulated frat parties where rampant hazing takes place, instead of at bars where some level of supervision and regulation is present.
 
2005-01-22 03:52:01 PM  
Flashman
Didn't show up for me either
and yes, i have safesearch turned off
 
2005-01-22 05:06:33 PM  
As a Brit, the huge uproar against "24-hour drinking" seriously embarrasses me.

There are hordes of people who genuinely believe (thanks to our glorious press) that pubs will be open continuously, with shifts of bar staff constantly serving alcohol to mindless mobs of hooligans.

What it means in reality is that any establishment can determine it's own opening hours, (according to trade/tradition/local usage etc) and apply to the licensing authorities (local magistrates usually) and, as long as there is no police objection, adhere to those hours. That's it.

There are already examples of this is the UK. Smithfield Market, where the workers cover 10pm through 8am on market days have pubs open from 4am, and getting a Guiness and a seriously lethal cooked breakfast before work is definitely to be recommended.

Those people who would moderate behaviour down to the lowest level of personal choice (i.e. none) are a serious threat to civil freedom.

Bet you're glad there aren't any such groups in the States ....
 
2005-01-22 05:16:08 PM  
In the US, the press, particularly local television news, is adamantly pro-Nanny State, and treats news of 20 year old college students caught drinking as if:
1. College drinking is some new phenominon, and
2. 20 year old adults drinking is schocking.

They're all hypocrates.
 
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