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(Farked Company)   Copy of a memo from Rep. Scott McInnis' (R-CO) U.S. House Subcommittee office citing PETA for supporting domestic terrorism (url not safe for work, site is fine however)   ( divider line
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2002-03-08 04:37:24 PM  
I eat meat. I wear leather. Screw PETA. They're just animals, not little people who can't talk and often smell bad. Hell, of course I despise deliberate cruelty to animals. But they're just animals. We're allowed to use them for food and clothing and medical experiments. Let's make sure they don't suffer too much, sure, but don't tell me animals and people are equal. We have the thumbs. We won!
2002-03-08 04:38:53 PM  
It's a lot easier to think what everyone else is thinking, isn't it? No, you're free to disagree. Have yourself a ball. What I have a problem with is that there's no mention of the other side of the story here. is anti-PETA, therefore, most fark posters blindly follow. Slap an asinine tag on there, all of a sudden it's asinine.

Ironbar: Yes, I support ELF "terrorists". I don't feel the least bit bad about it.
2002-03-08 04:39:19 PM  
A terrorist is anybody who attempts to use terror and intimidation to achieve their goals, rather than legal methods, such as NOT burning down buildings and trashing labs.
2002-03-08 04:40:21 PM  
Good piece of info on ELF

no I don't know how to link it
2002-03-08 04:40:39 PM  
Rebug: I am outraged at your attack on the troll community of But hey guess what? Noone cares about what your attacks because according to your profile you have 0 articles posted!!! BWAHAHAHAHAH!

The fark filter has obviously done its job if it pissed you off. Any real poster knows how to get around it while you, the uninformed Erudites are made to look like the idiots you are.

I also see your a peta member. Seeing that you bear the intelligence of a European, are you also a member of the nazi party? I'm surprised you were able to park here at Fark with your oversize SUV that you use to take Welfare Mothers to every farkin protest East of Lake Tahoe.

But since us trolls actually have to work for a living, I must go now. If you ever want to visit my restaurant, make sure to show your peta membership card, 10% off!
2002-03-08 04:43:04 PM  
Ironbar: Yes, I support ELF "terrorists". I don't feel the least bit bad about it.

Great, tell your buddies in Boston ALF/ELF cells to watch their asses.
2002-03-08 04:45:05 PM  
Got it?


Ironbar out, have a great weekend.
2002-03-08 04:49:52 PM  
ReBug Hells yes
2002-03-08 04:51:10 PM  
and hey, click the 'green revolution' link on the bottom of the URL that Burber gives. makes me proud.
2002-03-08 04:54:20 PM  
Uhm, why would I go to the trouble of posting an article here? Is that some sort of badge of honor? Why am I going to the trouble to post this?

The trolls here suck ass, man.

In conclusion, uhm. I disagree with most of you. Sorry.
2002-03-08 04:57:08 PM  
awwwwwww....well now I feel bad =(
2002-03-08 05:03:15 PM  
So where do we draw the line between terrorists and criminals? I thought I had it pretty clear until recently.

Isn't arson a criminal act, rather than a terrorist act? I'm so confused...
2002-03-08 05:21:36 PM  
A terrorist is someone who uses a criminal act to further an agenda that is generally political or religious in nature.

A criminal is someone who commits a criminal act general for his/her own purpose
2002-03-08 05:24:19 PM  
Rebug: While I can't deny the fact that FARK is, for some reason or another, anti-PETA...I can tell you that I have been against PETA long before I came upon FARK.
2002-03-08 05:32:07 PM  
Take that Peta. Cows are yummy, Chickens too!
The trouble with PETA is that they give no credit to the fact that we are born OMNIVORS. You want to make sure Shamu is treated well, fine. But you lose credibility when you say eating a steak is Murder. You lose even more by helping fund ELF and ALF. Most of the animals freed by ALF by the way, die in the wild. Why? Because they were raised for human consumption. All in all, PETA would serve itself better if it came up with Tofu that actually tasted good.

btw, all terrorist acts are criminal, not all criminal acts are terrorist. Terrorism is the means by which an idividual or group seeks to change the political/social/economic Stance of a Group, Government, etc. with Violence or destruction of property.
Criminal simple means against the law
2002-03-08 05:32:45 PM  
I love it when somebody finally comes around defending Peta, but all they seem to be able to do is spout rhetoric and invectives.

How about simply explaining what your reasons are for supporting peta?
2002-03-08 05:33:01 PM  
Why didn't this have an Obvious tag?

Oh, and that Mr Happy fellow does not speak for me.
2002-03-08 05:41:21 PM  
Yup, I always consult fark before forming my opinions. If fark hates PETA, then I hate PETA. Rebug=[image from too old to be available]
2002-03-08 05:59:08 PM  
I am no fan of PETA, but I am worried about Dubya, Ashcroft & Co. taking advantage of anti-terrorism legislation to shut down everyone that disagrees with their opinions.
2002-03-08 06:12:35 PM  
Given the current government thats been forced upon us, don't all americans count as terrorists?
2002-03-08 06:24:31 PM  
Eddie_irvine: oh, your razor sharp wit with those tags! I can't argue with someone so well armed for debate.

I think there may be a bigger grain of truth in your sarcasm than you'd care to admit.

Scraping-fetus-off-the-wheel: It's simply an ethical issue for me. I don't think it's right to kill animals. I wish it were deeper than that, but it's just that simple. I respect your right (and the right of others) to disagree with me, I just get tired of all the peta bashing on this site, and the mindless "I hate em, too" responses it generates.
2002-03-08 06:25:49 PM  
how can we call the breaking of a couple of chainsaws a terrorist act?
2002-03-08 06:28:07 PM  
Scott MacAnus is also the biggest rightwing nutjob I've seen since AssCraft.

This guy actually proposed legislation to prevent people from divorcing without first taking a 6 month counselling course.

"My husband beats me, I want a divorce" - "No, we're sorry you have to endure 6 months of counselling in order to prove that you need a divorce"
2002-03-08 06:37:31 PM  
I laugh at PETA and despise those using stoopid tactics but, what other groups some congresscritter disagrees with will use the implied threat the the "CC: Internal Revenue Service Federal bureau of Investigation" on a message sent? What happened to the right to not incriminate yourself. Shouldn't the courts be doing this?

That "cc" at the bottem shows how government puts itself above the citizenry. The Founders would be pissed.

American Revolution Two, anyone?
2002-03-08 06:43:56 PM  
Have you noticed the similarities between the Taliban and PETA?

Taliban: Fund and harbour terrorists.
PETA: Fund and harbour terrorists.

Taliban: Degrades women by forcing them to cover from head-to-toe in burqas.
PETA: Degrades women by making them protest nude as attention-getters.

Taliban: Before September 11th, all illegal ties were convienently ignored by the US government as they handed over $43 million in aid.
PETA: Before September 11th, all illegal ties were convienently ignored by the US government as they handed over tax-exempt status.

Taliban: Fueled by the desires of fanatical, possibly mentally-deranged individuals who are incapable of objectivity.
PETA: Fueled by the desires of fanatical, possibly mentally-deranged individuals who are incapable of objectivity.

Anyone have any more?
2002-03-08 06:44:57 PM  
Hmm.. So a person who burns down a building just for the "entertainment" value of watching it burn is a criminal, but a person who burns down a building to demonstrate a deeply-held ethical belief (misguided or not) is a "terrorist"?

That is simply ridiculous. And we thought McCarthy was bad...
2002-03-08 06:45:44 PM  
farking UBB code has farked my mind. :(
2002-03-08 06:51:22 PM  
From the above linked article:

"They still haven't either killed or seriously hurt anyone in more than 100 incidents over five years"

Some terrorists... Yeah, so they burned down some genetics labs. So what.
2002-03-08 06:54:39 PM  
Were you at the "Welcome to Virginia" BBQ in Norfolk when they moved their headquarters there? Was sponsored by one of the Radio STations there...was funny poop...

Have you ever served your country, asshead? Thought your cocksucker. The only thing Vengar did wrong was join the dark side. :) Must be hard to sit and eat at the academy, what with the spine removal and all :)
2002-03-08 07:04:56 PM  
Flyinglemur: must have been truly hilarious. Your side's ability to be offensive to my side is a clear indication of your superiority. I now see the light, and am off to get a steak. Hopefully I'll run over some dogs/cows/children on the way there.
2002-03-08 07:20:55 PM  
I am gonna go to Carl's jr,Its my little way of protesting.Jeez,its chilly today,I better wear my leather jacket.
2002-03-08 07:28:22 PM  
Fark seems anti-PETA because the vast majority of people are Anti-PETA. What percentage of people actually are members of that group? Heck, for that matter, what percentage even agree with HALF of the stuff PETA puts out. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the population.

Simply put, they are a bunch of loons, with proven ties to Terrorist organizations. They should be shut down, and at the very least lose any sort of non-profit status.
2002-03-08 07:46:46 PM  
After reading the earlier PETA article about their woman clubbing ad, I promptly grabbed one of my favorite t-shirts and put it on. It says:

"If we are not supposed to eat animals, then why are they all made out of meat?"

Words to live by.
2002-03-08 08:21:35 PM  
Terrorist : someone who uses terror as a political tool.

That and those guys did far worse than burn buildings.
2002-03-08 08:25:42 PM  
With laws like the Patriot Act, we've defined terrorism as a crime so dastardly that normal constitutional protections do not apply.

At the same time, we have people expanding the definition of terrorism to where pretty soon any dissent will be classified as a crime.

That's what I'm worried about, I don't give a fark about PETA in particular.
2002-03-08 08:31:36 PM  

hehehe Dark-side? Don't make me lob a midshipman at you...
2002-03-08 08:40:29 PM  
And now, for people like Rebug, and, of course, the anti-PETA people, some quotes from your favorite animal rights whackjobs!

Place foot in mouth, repeat process...
2002-03-08 08:55:41 PM  
There is nothing wrong with eating meat. Afterall, why were we born with incisors? And don't give me that evolutionary crap either.

Real indians eat meat.
2002-03-08 09:04:58 PM  
Nice list of quotes showing what the extreme side of PETA is all about. That site shows its true colors though when on its main page ,makes light of a death of someone who was on the other side of the issue.

BTW, I hate the "If this banner is flashing, you've WON!" banner they have.
2002-03-08 09:10:26 PM  
You PETA freaks always are always so entertaining. The easiest way to win an argument with one is to just be quiet and let them rant. The more they say, the stupider they sound. PETA thinks that they're elevating animals to the level of humans, but in the eyes of every rational person, they're just reducing themselves to the level of animals. The real psychos (more than half of them) actually consider animals to be -more- important than humans. It's fitting though, isn't it? You pinko, hippie tree-farkers can be less than animals if you want. Me? I'm more important than my farking dinner.

Farking animals...
2002-03-08 09:15:15 PM  
Terrorists are folks who use violence, the threat of violence, or the destruction of property to change the stated policy of a government, or substantially sway public opinion, WHEN ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF PROTEST EXIST.

So if, say, you live in a democracy, you don't have to burn down someone's farm to make your point. You can run for office, or organise a (non violent!) grassroots protest.

It would, I think, be fair to say that the ELF and the ALF are terrorist organisations. They just haven't killed many people yet, so they're not high in the general public's thoughts. It doesn't change the fact that they're using violence and destruction of property IN A DEMOCRACY to try and influence the political process.

If you give money to terrorists, then you're supporting terrorist activity. It's that simple. PETA gives money to ELF/ALF. Therefore, PETA supports terrorists. This has nothing to do with whatever PETA or it's members believe in - it's irrelevant to the current discussion. The *only* relevant facts are that ELF/ALF are terrorists, and PETA gives them money. They are the Taliban to ELF's Al Quayda.

I'd go so far as to say that PETA is more closly tied to terrorists than all you folks out there who buy home-grown illicit substances, contrary to what the National Office of Drug Control would have you believe. ;-)
2002-03-08 09:18:57 PM  
MightyTribble...making...too much...sense....head....exploding....
2002-03-08 09:36:49 PM  
"If a girl gets sexual pleasure from riding a horse, does the horse suffer? If not, who cares? If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it's great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong. If it isn't exploitation and abuse, it may not be wrong."
-Ingrid Newkirk, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

Friggin fur humpers
2002-03-08 09:47:50 PM  
There is a certain amount of respect needed for animals, but I'm not a Veggitarian, nor do i support PETA, I have yet to see them do something constructive, protesting is fine, but offer an alternitive besides Tofu and soy beans, spend some of your donation money on finding healthy alternitives to meat that taste good.

activities such as funding crimil organizations such as ALF/ELF is not what I consider ethical, a word which PETA constantly raves on about.

Thats why I don't support them.
2002-03-08 10:14:25 PM  
Meat is a tasty treat.
2002-03-08 10:17:43 PM  
Eat meat now.

Do it.
2002-03-08 10:46:31 PM  
"The male part of the species gets a big piece of beef that he eats. The female part of the species gets something called a salad."

2002-03-08 10:49:50 PM  
"If the death of one rat cured all diseases, it wouldn't make any difference to me."
-Chris De Rose, Director, Last Chance for Animals

The thing I hate about PETA is the same thing I hate about pro-lifers. They are willing to use violence and even murder to force others to adhere to their belief system at the cost of their life.

If you are not the person with the disease slowly killing you, you have no farking say in this matter. If PETA people get cancer they can refuse therapy and die horribly-that is thier right. You can refuse to have stem cell treatment. You can die in labor and have the child cut from your carcass. Your choice. But forcing that on others, is both vile and violent, and yes, terrorism.
2002-03-08 11:05:56 PM  
it's one thing to be, say, anti-fur coat because it's simply a vanity thing. it's another to be anti-chicken commercial because it hurts the chicken's feelings.

being someone who is pretty anemic, it's difficult for me to not eat meat. i get very tired and sometimes sick if i don't. i probably could not live very easily or healthily as a vegetarian.

i have two kitties. i like animals. but i'm also an omnivore.
2002-03-08 11:50:31 PM  
"The cat, like the dog, must disappear..... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist."
-John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of a Changing Ethic, PETA 1982, p.15.

I always wondered why PETA was pro-neutering, since it seemed such a gross violation of animal rights. They want the weaker types of felines (such as housecats) to die out so the only kinds that remain are the lions and cheetahs that can kill us! Talk about a self-destructing meme.
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