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(NCBuy)   Martin Scorsese has been working on a film about Bob Dylan for the past two years, much to the surprise of Bob Dylan, with whom he's never spoken   (kevxml2a.infospace.com ) divider line
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2005-01-18 09:09:59 AM  
So? Oliver Stone never talked to JFK either.
 
2005-01-18 09:16:35 AM  
When asked about the movie, Scorsese said, "I see my light come shining, from the west unto the east. Any day now, any day now, my film shall be released."
 
2005-01-18 09:17:05 AM  
I want to hear a conversation between Bob Dylan and Ozzy


Bob- "Merszfu gingadurzell"
Ozzy- "Hereaskit misell furn... SHARON!"
 
2005-01-18 09:18:39 AM  
He's need to find an interpreter who speaks Wilbury.

"Eeeb, yay! Wurp norl dajeeyah. Groob?"
 
2005-01-18 09:32:17 AM  
GooberMcFly:

Except, y'know, JFK was already dead when his film was made. Bob Dylan is still alive.
 
2005-01-18 09:43:35 AM  
I heard that Scorcese actually did want Dylan to help out, but Dylan wanted to take control of the whole movie, saying, "it's either my way, or the highway 61".
Scorcese fought back to retain control of his film, saying "She belongs to me." Just like a woman, really.
Unthinkable years ago, but the Times they are a-changin'.
 
2005-01-18 10:15:06 AM  
um, they already have made an awesome movie together. remember The Band, remember The Last waltz

/I know it's not the same, but just saying the headline is pretty, um, wrong
 
2005-01-18 10:37:08 AM  
Chastain86:

Except, y'know, JFK was already dead when his film was made. Bob Dylan is still alive.


JFK isn't dead. He's living in a secret military base in Utah directing the war on terror.

Duh.
 
2005-01-18 11:59:35 AM  
Sure hope it has subtitles
 
2005-01-18 12:17:23 PM  
Just wait 'til you see how many of you Farkers I've been making movies about.
 
2005-01-18 02:07:22 PM  
I wonder: How does it feel?
 
2005-01-18 02:47:17 PM  
Gonna need subtitles for Dylan.
 
2005-01-18 02:50:00 PM  
In a way I can't blame him. Bob has more layers than an onion, and I don't think he's ever given a straight answer to anyone in the media.
 
2005-01-18 02:50:05 PM  
robmilmel
"I wonder: How does it feel?"
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind...

/too obvious?
 
2005-01-18 02:50:18 PM  
What is wrong with the world. Is everybody tone deaf. Dylan is about as great as generic peanutbutter
 
2005-01-18 02:51:33 PM  
Except, y'know, JFK was already dead when his film was made. Bob Dylan is still alive.

Creatively dead though.

/and no, the album he got an oscar for is absolutely no where near his peak. he even admitted he had to start thinking about his song writing after Blonde on Blonde. That's when the trouble set in.
 
2005-01-18 02:52:24 PM  
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2005-01-18 02:52:56 PM  
Who's playing Dylan? I hope it's Daniel Day-Lewis, and not Leonardo again.

Will Dylan get to fly the Spruce Goose?
 
2005-01-18 02:53:26 PM  
Martin's movie will never touch "Masked and Anonymous" for pure Bob goodness
 
2005-01-18 02:54:15 PM  
Feverdream

yeah I don't get it - he sounds like me singing when I have a cold...
 
2005-01-18 02:55:14 PM  
Who's playing Dylan?

[image from mojenoviny.cz too old to be available]
 
2005-01-18 02:55:27 PM  
Dylan won the Oscar for a song called "Things Have Changed" from a movie called Wonder Boys. Not his best ever song, but a decent song I think.

Later.

RJS
 
2005-01-18 02:56:04 PM  
He might have picked a better artistic medium for his creativity...mime
 
2005-01-18 02:56:41 PM  
tom petty would play dylan rather well.
 
2005-01-18 02:57:33 PM  
What is wrong with the world. Is everybody tone deaf. Dylan is about as great as generic peanutbutter

I'll have to agree... never put the hook in me either...
 
2005-01-18 03:01:10 PM  
Can anyone please explain to me why he is such a farking folk hero. If anyone says he's a great poet, i'm gonna start a shooting spree.
 
2005-01-18 03:01:13 PM  
oldebayer
Didn't Daniel Day Lewis already play Dylan in "My Left Foot"?
 
2005-01-18 03:01:33 PM  
I think a large part of Dylan's attraction for the masses and his alleged 'genius' stems from the fact that he made millions of young geeky boys who could do no more than strum a few chords and croak out some self-indulgent rhymes think "Hey, I could be famous too!"

/yeah, yeah... I know... some of his songs are actually very good... but the body of work is severely overrated by the Rolling Stone school of cultural criticism.
 
2005-01-18 03:03:08 PM  
The only way that I would be interested in this movie is if Dylan killed himself at the end. And I mean for real...
 
2005-01-18 03:04:01 PM  
And when is Scorsese gonna learn that, if he wants an Oscar, he's going to have to do something about the Holocaust?
 
2005-01-18 03:05:52 PM  
2005-01-18 03:04:01 PM LoveInAction

And when is Scorsese gonna learn that, if he wants an Oscar, he's going to have to do something about the Holocaust?


He would be good at that, because everybody knows the Holocaust never happened.
 
2005-01-18 03:08:00 PM  
He would be good at that, because everybody knows the Holocaust never happened.

Eh... you're on your own with that remark.

I was merely repeating a Hollywood insider's joke... a la the way Spielberg's fortunes progressed.
 
2005-01-18 03:09:07 PM  
Why would he limit his creativity by recreating an accurate account of events? If it works for Micheal Moore (god bless his soul), and Billy O' & The Gang (Fox), why should Martin Scorsese play by different rules?
 
2005-01-18 03:10:38 PM  
"But I think for me, of course, I'm on his side...

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Martin Scorsese
Has Bob on his side.
 
2005-01-18 03:10:58 PM  
Bob Dylan is still alive.

Does Dylan know that?
 
2005-01-18 03:12:20 PM  
"What is wrong with the world. Is everybody tone deaf. Dylan is about as great as generic peanutbutter" -Feverdream

What's right with the world is that Bob Dylan is appreciated as a musician and lyricist who has influenced generations of other artists despite not having a particularly melodious voice. Naturally, his music doesn't appeal to everyone, but there are plenty of empty-headed "stars" with little talent and pretty voices for the rest of you.
 
2005-01-18 03:12:36 PM  
um, they already have made an awesome movie together. remember The Band, remember The Last waltz

Nice one, flavorflanks! I watched that movie yesterday, and it really was awesome. Great lines Robbie Robertson had at the end about 'The Road' claiming some of music's best.
 
2005-01-18 03:13:07 PM  
I thought all the arbiters of "Good Music"
were on TF. Where are all the comments about how excellent Dylan is? Should be a good flamewar now that it has hit Farklite
 
2005-01-18 03:14:40 PM  
LazarusLong...What's right with the world is that Bob Dylan is appreciated as a musician and lyricist who has influenced generations of other artists despite not having a particularly melodious voice. Naturally, his music doesn't appeal to everyone, but there are plenty of empty-headed "stars" with little talent and pretty voices for the rest of you.

And..... we're off....
 
2005-01-18 03:14:49 PM  
Can anyone please explain to me why he is such a farking folk hero. If anyone says he's a great poet, i'm gonna start a shooting spree.

Start off with the song Hurricaine - a protest song about a boxer who was convicted of murder because he was black.

Then move onto his time period, his zenith was around the time of the Vietnam War, songs such as 'Masters of War' and 'Blowing in the wind' mean a lot when taken in context.

Move onto the fact that when he wants to he writes great love songs. Lay Lady Lay, Girl from the North Country (especially the version with Johnny Cash on from Nashville Skyline) and Just Like a Women.

Then onto his break up songs, very emotionally intense. One of Us must know, Simple Twist of Fate... very powerful.

And then listen to the 13 minute Desolation Row. Possibly the greatest epic of freeform folk ever written. His Magnum Opus.

Listen to those, and if you don't feel moved then you sir don't understand music.
 
2005-01-18 03:15:49 PM  
Except, y'know, JFK was already dead when his film was made. Bob Dylan is still alive.

Are you sure?
 
2005-01-18 03:16:33 PM  
While many on fark.com will bust Dylan's ass with "overrated" or "the film will need subtitles" and "he sucks", he is still the most important figure in popular music over the last 50 years.

In 1960 popular music was dominated by 3 minute pop songs sung by "teen idols". . .sound familiar. Dylan changed this manufactured music into a guitar based folk music.

Dylan, in a period of 3 albums release in 1964 and 1965 redefined popular "rock" music. Gone was the acoustic based folk music, and gone was the popular folk scene. Even if Bob Dylan would have only written and released music from 1962 to 1965, he still would have been one of the most influential musicians in history. From folk standards of Bob Dylan to Blonde on Blonde was the most creative time of any popular musician in history.

Broktun | Who will save us from the 3 minute pop songs sung by teen idols in 2005?
 
2005-01-18 03:17:27 PM  
Yodas Ugly Brother....(blah, blah, blah, etc)Listen to those, and if you don't feel moved then you sir don't understand music.

Grow up.
 
2005-01-18 03:19:50 PM  
I might come out in terms of a pro-Dylan.

Viva la revelucion!
Morte a la Dylanistas!
 
2005-01-18 03:20:47 PM  
Problem is that a Bob Dylan movie will become instant mythology and whether it's good or bad won't matter or be known.

and Masked and Anonymous really wasn't a good flick. It was confusing and strange and you're supposed to say it's great, but it's not.
 
2005-01-18 03:21:13 PM  
Scorsese has never been one that would try to avoid the scandals. Don't want to be a bum, you'd better chew gum, the pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handles.
 
2005-01-18 03:21:35 PM  
I too, thought Dylan was just something old peopel talked about reverently, like "Hendrix" and "The Beatles"...

And then I heard the song "Pawn in their Game"- and that did it for me. I'm still far from a Dylan Fan-boy, but I respect and appreciate what he can do.

As for Hendrix, that took a bootleg of some show in hawaii (on pink vinyl, no less!) and as for the beatles... well, I still don't see it. But "Tommorrow Never Knows" is a kewl song.
 
2005-01-18 03:23:48 PM  
If anyone MAINSTREAM ever writes lyrics as utterly brilliant
as "Tangled up in Blue" "It's Alright Ma,I'm Only Bleeding" "Ballad of Hollis Brown" or even "Maggies Farm" I will seal myself in a pit of my own filth.
 
2005-01-18 03:26:50 PM  
Lipspinach

Get a clue
 
2005-01-18 03:27:18 PM  
Darkness at the break of noon
Shadows even the silver spoon
The handmade blade, the child's balloon
Eclipses both the sun and moon
To understand you know too soon
There is no sense in trying.

Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fool's gold mouthpiece
The hollow horn plays wasted words
Proves to warn
That he not busy being born
Is busy dying.

Temptation's page flies out the door
You follow, find yourself at war
Watch waterfalls of pity roar
You feel to moan but unlike before
You discover
That you'd just be
One more person crying.

So don't fear if you hear
A foreign sound to your ear
It's alright, Ma, I'm only sighing.

As some warn victory, some downfall
Private reasons great or small
Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
To make all that should be killed to crawl
While others say don't hate nothing at all
Except hatred.

Disillusioned words like bullets bark
As human gods aim for their mark
Made everything from toy guns that spark
To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
It's easy to see without looking too far
That not much
Is really sacred.

While preachers preach of evil fates
Teachers teach that knowledge waits
Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
Goodness hides behind its gates
But even the president of the United States
Sometimes must have
To stand naked.

An' though the rules of the road have been lodged
It's only people's games that you got to dodge
And it's alright, Ma, I can make it.

Advertising signs that con you
Into thinking you're the one
That can do what's never been done
That can win what's never been won
Meantime life outside goes on
All around you.

You lose yourself, you reappear
You suddenly find you got nothing to fear
Alone you stand with nobody near
When a trembling distant voice, unclear
Startles your sleeping ears to hear
That somebody thinks
They really found you.

A question in your nerves is lit
Yet you know there is no answer fit to satisfy
Insure you not to quit
To keep it in your mind and not fergit
That it is not he or she or them or it
That you belong to.

Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.

For them that must obey authority
That they do not respect in any degree
Who despise their jobs, their destinies
Speak jealously of them that are free
Cultivate their flowers to be
Nothing more than something
They invest in.

While some on principles baptized
To strict party platform ties
Social clubs in drag disguise
Outsiders they can freely criticize
Tell nothing except who to idolize
And then say God bless him.

While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.

But I mean no harm nor put fault
On anyone that lives in a vault
But it's alright, Ma, if I can't please him.

Old lady judges watch people in pairs
Limited in sex, they dare
To push fake morals, insult and stare
While money doesn't talk, it swears
Obscenity, who really cares
Propaganda, all is phony.

While them that defend what they cannot see
With a killer's pride, security
It blows the minds most bitterly
For them that think death's honesty
Won't fall upon them naturally
Life sometimes
Must get lonely.

My eyes collide head-on with stuffed graveyards
False gods, I scuff
At pettiness which plays so rough
Walk upside-down inside handcuffs
Kick my legs to crash it off
Say okay, I have had enough
What else can you show me?

And if my thought-dreams could be seen
They'd probably put my head in a guillotine
But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only.
 
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