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(RedOrbit)   Realizing it would suck if it happened to us, United States announces plans to launch a tsunami warning system for the U.S. mainland   ( divider line
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4910 clicks; posted to Main » on 15 Jan 2005 at 3:49 PM (12 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2005-01-15 04:50:32 PM  
"An interesting site detailing the relief efforts being carried out by the US Military-providing immediate, direct aid to the areas affected,when the people need it the most."-jeep44

If you also have the link regarding '...relief efforts being carried out by the US Military-providing immediate, direct aid to the area...' for Iraq, I'd appreciate it.

Anyway, America using resources for a practical mission rather than training is always nice.
2005-01-15 04:52:32 PM  

The US military is actualy ending it's tsunami aid soon.
2005-01-15 04:53:06 PM  
Sturgeon637: 15000 American sailors and marines in the area, but of course THAT won't be reflected on such a chart.

Without supplies, which are reflected on such a chart, what exactly would they be doing there? Providing moral support?

To be straight with you, I'm for spending less money. I'm more or less constructionist and believe that the government shouldn't be giving taxpayer dollars away to foreign countries when we're so far in debt ourselves no matter what the situation. But don't twist facts by trying to pull the Soldier Trump Card from your sleeve. We do donate less to foreign causes as a percentage of GDP than just about any other country in the world, excepting probably North Korea. Accept the fact or don't, that's just how it is.

Oh yeah, it's criminal to love your country and want it to be in a good light.

farking commie.

It's criminal to lie to yourself or to other people in order to make your side look better. Blind nationalism is bad no matter how you phrase it. (Same goes for extremist anti-nationalists.)

Additionally, your kneejerk anti-[political leaning] response nets you negative five points. Fun fact of the day: not everyone who disagrees with you is a communist. Seriously.

And MWeather: Just because a man calls you a communist doesn't mean you have to get up in his face. Be the bigger man and shrug it off, yo. Getting aggressive only devalues your point of view and trivializes the debate.
2005-01-15 04:55:32 PM  
This is amazing. Some people can even turn a scientic article into a bashing session. Why not just automate the bash posts and skip all the typing work?
2005-01-15 04:57:14 PM  
"And MWeather: Just because a man calls you a communist doesn't mean you have to get up in his face."

You are correct, but shouldn't the original ass get a warning too? It just seems to be there is a political bias as to who gets warned.
2005-01-15 05:00:26 PM  
MWeather, both of you were warned. I strongly suggest you drop it. Calling people names and attacking them verbally isn't debating, regardless of who started it. Have fun, but don't be jerk.
2005-01-15 05:01:53 PM  
Not that it's going to make a difference-- rising sea levels from global warming are going to do much more damage to the coast anyway.

/too late for bear patrol
2005-01-15 05:01:58 PM  

After we traded insults, Eeek posted a warning for "you two" to cut it out.

He DID warn both of us.

Then you posted again and that's why he called you out.
2005-01-15 05:02:58 PM  
Ecellent news! Now can we get out of Iraq?
2005-01-15 05:05:29 PM  
2005-01-15 04:41:22 PM agreywolf42

Never the less, the average American income is $37,800 and the average American contribution is $3.40. That includes all government, non-government, public and corporate donations. That's some largess.

Hey, I make 57.1% as much as Joe Average American, and donated 7.35 times as much for tsunami relief!

/Unzips pants and shows off his impressive pissing
2005-01-15 05:07:45 PM  
Fastest early waning for earthquakes and tidal waves is already in place: it's called your local zoo.

If something is about to happen, the animals start acting funny. In the case of the South Asia tidal wave, there wasn't a single elephant or a single tiger drowned; they all took off running well before it hit the fan.

Easiest way out is buy yourself an elephant; if he takes off running for the high ground, you do the same.
2005-01-15 05:11:28 PM  
What I don't understand is, that because it is just a theory that earthquakes and landslides cause Tsunamis, would anybody want to waste money developing a system that is based on a theory.

/still recovering from recent evolution debates
2005-01-15 05:15:28 PM  
"Easiest way out is buy yourself an elephant; if he takes off running for the high ground, you do the same."

I bet I'll lose a few pounds too, running around like that! Worst idea ever? Yep.
2005-01-15 05:21:13 PM  
This thread contains material on earthquakes. Earthquakes are a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of a tsunami. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered.
2005-01-15 05:26:00 PM  
Action Replay Nick - You really showed those dumb Christians!
2005-01-15 05:34:35 PM  
The plan would quadruple the size of the warning network in the Pacific and erect similar safeguards for the Atlantic, Caribbean and Gulf coasts, officials of the White House science office said. Operating it would cost about $24.5 million a year.


Is this going to feed one hungry child?

Is this going to provide one senior citizen her prescription drugs?


It will, however, warn the warships at Newport News to leave harbor so that Yankee imperialism can continue unabated.

/bets Halliburton gets a fat contract from this somehow
2005-01-15 05:37:31 PM  
the average American contribution is $3.40

Crap, I only gave $3.30. Guess I'll go shoot another $.20 via Paypal. I wouldn't want to be below average.
2005-01-15 05:48:59 PM  

Don't feel alone. Sometimes it's as if half the people out there are below average.
2005-01-15 05:51:04 PM  
Bravo, Tinian, you sure hit the nail on the head. Because all of lifes problems will allways come back to Halliburton. It's always there fault!

2005-01-15 05:54:33 PM  
Uh, question: How many dogs and cats got killed in the California mudslide?

Unless they were tied up unable to escape, I would guess none at all.

2005-01-15 05:59:10 PM  
I do not have tsunamis and earthquakes where I live---but I DO have hurricanes!

When I am concerned about an approaching storm, I check the danger by throwing a handful of popcorn in the front yard. Normally the seagulls will find it in a matter of minutes; I swear those suckers have radar! If they don't show up, trouble is afoot.

The day before a big storm, I lifted up my lawnmower and found a little bird under there. Normally, a little bird wouldn't crawl into a tight space like that, a cat could find him and kill him. But he knew he was safe, all the cats had long since run off.

You want to trust your computers, go ahead. I'll stick with the cats and the birds, they're a lot smarter than a Cray.
2005-01-15 06:00:07 PM  
I wish I could see a chart of the donations divided by state. Especially Red vs. Blue states.

Magic chart genie, make it so!

/magic chart genie says I'm out of wishes.
2005-01-15 06:02:13 PM  
I blame illegal immigrants
2005-01-15 06:05:54 PM  
Oh good, because living in the center of Pennsylvania several hundred miles from the atlantic ocean, tsunami's are my biggest fear.

/got nothin'
2005-01-15 06:07:54 PM  
$24 million a year? All they have to do is sound a siren if there is an earthquake detected out in the Ocean. What is the rest of the money for?
2005-01-15 06:10:37 PM  

What is the rest of the money for?

Hammers and toilet seats.
2005-01-15 06:14:45 PM  
Olddinosaur: There was at least one slow,dumb elephant out there. My son is a Marine taking part in the relief efforts in Sumatra and Sri Lanka. They saw at least one elephant floating in the ocean (along with many bodies).
2005-01-15 06:16:52 PM  
Sorry, meant to add, why use a fancy buoy? Anything big enough to worry about will be picked up by geologists using seismographs. Won't someone think of the poor, underpaid, geologists???
2005-01-15 06:20:14 PM  

Sorry, meant to add, why use a fancy buoy? Anything big enough to worry about will be picked up by geologists using seismographs. Won't someone think of the poor, underpaid, geologists???

Because you have to know if there's a wave and where it's going. Just detecting an earthquake doesn't tell you either.
2005-01-15 06:32:12 PM  
BTW- Headline writer, they are EXPANDING our current system,. We already have one.
2005-01-15 06:35:15 PM  

Not like $900 is much, but you need to recheck the CIA fact book:

The per capita GDP for Kuwait is $19,000 not $18,100.

An honest mistake, right?
2005-01-15 06:51:20 PM  
And let us not ignore that the population of Kuwait is tiny with a large number of superwealthy royals. Just one big contribution from a Sabah raises the average for the whole nation significantly while Sandra Bullock's million dollar gift is a drop in the bucket of US contributions. Using figures based on creating a fictional individual citizen's contribution is just weaseling. The fact is that the US brought resources in play that nobody else could match and did this while the UN was still shipping bureaucrats to have meetings to discuss what to do and complain about the buffet.
2005-01-15 07:00:19 PM  

Teh main problem you face is life in the Section 8 part of Renovo.
2005-01-15 07:07:53 PM  

Those reports were only for one animal sanctuary in Sri Lanka. In other areas, thousands and thousands of animals were killed (sometimes more than the number of people.)
2005-01-15 07:18:30 PM  
Nathan Brazil
Bravo! If I wasn't so lazy I would have posted that same thing myself.
2005-01-15 07:18:55 PM  
Great, their will have to be more tax cuts for the rich to pay for it.
2005-01-15 07:27:36 PM  
Let California fall in the farkin' ocean!!!
2005-01-15 07:33:09 PM  
Like the tsunami is the only tragic tsituation going on in the world. What about all the other tragedies in the world? I just heard today that the non-govment aid has now tsurpassed $300 million.
2005-01-15 07:44:43 PM  
RagingHamster, well said. Thanks.
2005-01-15 07:44:52 PM  
Realizing it would suck if it happened to us

Submitters an ass.
2005-01-15 08:07:25 PM  
"...Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshiats

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be..."
2005-01-15 08:19:59 PM  

Like the tsunami is the only tragic tsituation going on in the world. What about all the other tragedies in the world? I just heard today that the non-govment aid has now tsurpassed $300 million.

It's not the only one but it is by far the biggest. The only thing that would really be comparable is a nuke and that might not actually be as bad because it would be localized.
2005-01-15 09:11:17 PM  

Cool stuff. The article mainly focuses on the system that currently is in place in the Pacific, designed to protect Hawaii from tsunami-generating quakes in the Aleutians, but does mention the US is participating with Indian Ocean countries, like Australia, in designing one for that neck of the woods.

I watched the announcement, on CSPAN I believe, and it was pointed out that the physical infrastructure is not the problem. It costs money, but not a lot on a governmental level. A few more sea bed pressure sensors and the detection part is covered. NOAA already has an emergency broadcast system that any country can sign up to, so getting the word out is not much of an issue either. The problem is, who is going to listen and what will they do with the info? If a nation does not have the proper infrastructure in place to a) receive the broadcast and b) pass the info along to local governments, then no matter what NOAA does, it's not going to be much good. If the local governments (municipalities, towns, villages) do not have the proper infrastructure, then no matter what the national government tells them, it will not be much good. If the local populace is not educated (ie, when the sea rushes out ... RUN!), then the entire system breaks down. The US (and other countries I'm sure) has a well established emergency broadcast system, the tough thing will be getting other at-risk nations to establish similar systems

2005-01-15 09:21:56 PM  
We used to get Tsunami Warnings on Okinawa occasionally. I totally gaffed them off. "Pfft, yeah! Like that could happen!"

I get chills thinking about it now. They say God watches out for drunks and fools. And like most Marines on Okinawa, I was usually one of the two. Sometimes both.

Donated some more spare change tonight on Telethon. I feel like I'm paying back God (or the Fates or chance or whatever)for it not happening to me...yet.
2005-01-15 09:23:23 PM  
BTW- Okinawas beaches are beautiful, and the Okinawan people are some of the most forgiving humans on this planet. Rant over.
2005-01-15 09:52:01 PM  
Interestingly enough, the Radio Shack weather alert radio that I bought 4 years ago lists a "TSUNAMI WARNING" message as one of it's preprogrammed text statements. Therfore, the National Weather Service has considered the threat real enough long before tsunamis were popular news fodder.
2005-01-15 09:53:28 PM  

That pic is innacurate. The Empire State Building is NOT direcly west of the UN Building.
2005-01-15 09:59:24 PM  
Are you scared yet? No?
How about the volcano in the Canary Islands? This is a monster-sized volcano that is well-past due for an asplosion. Here's details.

And if that didn't scare you, the asteroid 2004-MN4 hit a 4 on the Torino scale (roughly translated as "oh, shiat"), but has since been lowered. Thing is, there are hundreds of thousands of asteroids that they haven't seen. Imagine one of them landing in a body of water near a coastline. Oh, shiat.

Still worried about social security?
2005-01-15 10:37:27 PM  
I'm very disappointed in the Bush administration for this. They're going to just set up a warning system and then, if it goes off, just tell people to run away and let the tsunomees waltz right into places like Charleston and Boston and New York and do whatever they want, without any opposition at all? If we wimp out like this, instead of hunting them down and eliminating them proactively, the tsunomees have already won!

What happened to America's fighting spirit???
2005-01-15 11:01:48 PM  
And they say you can't buy happiness.

I can't wait for the robot masters, it will be a refreshing change.
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