you know, that IS Sad ...

oooo, sweet headline.

the shiite didn't hit the fan?

/i get jokes too!

Headline is in bad taste.

And I don't care if Jew disagree with me.

(golf clap) for submitter

I call bullshiite.

Round of applause for submitter!

me laugh. me feel bad.

/bad taste IS funny

bad taste/more filling

Mission Accomplished?

/sorry, had to

Did somebody say "Bad Taste"?



Remember: Derek's don't run.

The terrorists like boobies? Bwahahah

Probably for collaboratng with the US. Sistani is one of the moderates, currently.

I never know what will turn into a flame war any more so I'm just going to jump in early and throw out a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

But seriously... what exactly has to happen before we conscider the war in Iraq "bad". Or even more so, what would it take for us to leave? Another fake victory like Vietnam? Just say we won and leave the place a mess?

Why are you all laughing? You evil, evil, bad bad bad, horrible people, you!

/Snicker, chortle, potty-humor

niiiiiice, submitter. :D

Feynmann, it will take the Shiites and the Sunnis collaborating, which will finally bring it home to the American people that this is not about religion, it's about everyone east of the Atlantic being sick of our fingers stirring up their pudding.

/and if you think the American people will show that much rationality...

let the eagle soar....... iraq isn't ready for democracy, only a fool doesnt see that. can we just steal their resources and friggin leave already?

Several leading Sunni parties say they are boycotting the vote because the results will be unfairly skewed against the Sunni minority that dominated Iraq under Saddam.

Minority groups afraid they won't win a nationwide election?

(sarcastic? probably, even I don't know anymore...)

what exactly has to happen before we conscider the war in Iraq "bad".

I don't think I would ever describe a war as "good."

2005-01-13 11:24:09 AM Richard_Feynmans_Big_Toe
I never know what will turn into a flame war any more so I'm just going to jump in early and throw out a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Oh, pretty much anything will do, these days.

But seriously... what exactly has to happen before we conscider the war in Iraq "bad".

For liberals, it's bad already. Has been from the start. For conservatives, it's good as long as their are worse things to compare it to. Moral relativists, the lot of them.

Or even more so, what would it take for us to leave? Another fake victory like Vietnam? Just say we won and leave the place a mess?

That's pretty much what Colin Powell seems to be saying, once you parse through the bullshiite (sorry).

Freedom is on the march. Maybe.

Man, i didnt think this headline was as funny as my Dick Cheney nazi costume one, and it gets greenlighted. Same thing with the little Fark Curtis. I guess sometimes what you think is funniest isnt what the populous thinks :)

/submitter

best. headline. ever.

boohiss: I don't think I would ever describe a war as "good."

Cue Mike71 and the Bomb A Muslum For Jesus Brigade...

"Hitting the fan".... *grooooaaaan* Dunno whether to laugh or cry.

Coming soon to a theater of war near you; North Iraq/South Iraq.

Can Iraq only exist under a brutal dictator?

Diogenes

Burying all those collaborators sure is hard work. Just ask Dubya and Rummy.

Wait, they bury collaborators now? I thought they gave them houses in SoCal with the FBI witness protection program with female poolboys that would be amenable to extramarital affairs.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Iraq as a single entity has to be ruled like Saddam did it. Democracy will cause civil war. The only good solution is to divide the country up into at least 2 seperate countries, maybe even 3.

Let freedom reign.

Do you mean to tell me that this whole Iraqi election thing is a shame?! I don't believe it.

If the coalition was determined, they would sereptitiously determine which (or perhaps all) of these "faith leaders" were the highest threat.
And erradicate them, their families, and their closest followers over an extended period of time, wherever they happened to live. Worldwide. It would remove the threat of prolonged resistance, and send an unequivocal message.

God Bless the US Government:

There's nothing that generates freedom quite like removing a dictator so that the real business of civil war can begin.

Here's a news flash. There's way too much religious tomfoolery in Iraq for a meaningful democracy to form.

Either Bush and et al knew this or they didn't. If they didn't, then they're stupid (and that's scary considering they're running the last imperial superpower). If they knew what would happen, they're just plain evil... and that's even scarier.

For conservatives, it's good as long as their are worse things to compare it to.

I will take exception to this. No war is "good." People die and shiat happens...everytime.

However, I think the cost-to-benefit ratio of this war is certainly less than other wars. Does that make me a moral relativist? I don't think so. War in general may be a moral question, but I don't think that this war, or any American war (with perhaps the exception of the Civil War), is even a question of morality.

As much as the liberals and the cynics out there believe that this is an unjust war for oil or whatever, I believe that it is a justified preemptive strike against terror.

I don't believe that either side's viewpoint is any less valid, but please don't characterize conservatives as thinking the war is "good."

Hey, all but four provinces of the eighteen provinces are ready for the vote on the 30th. That's pretty good, right?

Of course those four provinces have over 50% of the population...

beer belly: Can Iraq only exist under a brutal dictator?

Iraq only ever existed under brutal dictatorships.

It's the Middle Eastern version of Yugoslavia and we all know how well its breaking apart went for all the parties involved.

Richard_Feynmans_Big_Toe "... what exactly has to happen before we conscider the war in Iraq "bad".

Dude, it's bad. People are killing each other. It was bad when Saddam was in power and it's bad now. It will be bad for years to come, until the elected government in is power and the Iraqi police maintain order and the foreign terrorists are killed.

But now, it's bad.

I'd not like to see it get worse by removing the troops before the govt. and the police can establish order and let the people of Iraq live in peace.

No Troll, just a simple poll

Who here thinks invading Iraq was a mistake we will regret for a number of reasons?

Who here thinks this is a good idea and has reduced terror?

Oh the elections will happen because the DUHb administration wants them to. That way he can slap his fellow rich whiteys on the back, fake a victory, and get the hell out of the mess he created.

Of course thousands more will die in Iraq after we leave it a mess, but as long as DUHb still hates the fags and keeps trying to cram church into govt he will get much love.

Religion! It's not just for poor ignorant people anymore!

Yea my post does not make sense to me either, but I think I have food poisoning HASTA LA VIVA!

The average citizen of Iraq want freedom for themselves and their children. That said, our founding fathers had enuf sense to separate church and State. I noticed in my short 28 year life my humble opinion is that anytime you have religion running a country there is blood in the streets. The Iraqis desperately want the right to elect their own leaders, live in a free society, practice their religion openly and have a few creature comforts for their families..... and yes, see the USA out of their country. What the press seems hellbent on reporting are the crazy fanitics that miss the ole saddam and his blood thirsty cronies. For some reason the press doesn't report the infrastructure we have put in place such as electricity, water & sewer, schools, hospitals, etc. I hope when my children are teenagers and Iraq is a free peaceful country, I can tell them the the USA helped Iraq gain the freedoms they are enjoying. Buzzy.

Putting the 'fun' back into fundamentalism, and the 'laughter' back into sectarian slaughter

LittleSmitty: Who here thinks this is a good idea and has reduced terror?


An interesting military slant on the Iraq situation can be found here:

http://www.keepingapace.com/blogarchives/government/america_at_the_crossroads. php

lotta good points

I believe that it is a justified preemptive strike against terror.

But the terrorists weren't Iraqis.

James_Maybrick

If the coalition was determined, they would sereptitiously determine which (or perhaps all) of these "faith leaders" were the highest threat.
And erradicate them, their families, and their closest followers over an extended period of time, wherever they happened to live. Worldwide. It would remove the threat of prolonged resistance, and send an unequivocal message.

If the DoJ were determined, they would surreptitiously determine which thoughtcriminals were the highest threat. And eradicate them, their families, and their closest associates in the universities and private sector. Worldwide. It would send an unequivocal message.

/see the resemblance?
//I used to own a dictionary once...