2005-01-13 02:15:54 PM Hipchewy1 [TotalFark]
Moxie tastes like ass

This forum should have been locked right after this post.
It would have been a great coup de'gras

Hang On Voltaire: (nice Swinger's reference)

The submitter doesn't understand. If you live on the far eastern edge of a time zone you get less daylight. The further west you are on a time zone the more you get. If Maine were to change they would be on the far western side of the Atlantic Time Zone. I live in Mobile, AL and we are on the far eastern end of the Central Time Zone so we get less sunlight than Columbus GA (EST) and less than Amarillo, TX (CST).

Well to be a bit more specific, you'll get the exact same number of minutes of sunlight each day regarless of which side of the time zone you're on. It's just spread over a slightly different period of time for each side. So you don't get less daylight than Amarillo, you just get more of it in the early morning and they get more of it in the late afternoon. Unless you don't consider sunrise to be daylight, then your statement of "less daylight" would technically be correct, but that's splitting hairs.

Anyway, winter is the only time anyone ever really cares about this. It's always a non-issue in the summer when we actually do have more daylight because the northern hemisphere is tilted toward the sun.

I'm all in favor of dumping the whole daylight savings thing. It's never seemed necessary to me. If we want to extend the daylight to later in the day it would actually make more sense to shift the clocks ahead in the fall and back in the summer, which is the opposite of how we do it now. That would give us more light on the winter late afternoons, and we'd be back on standard time in the summer when we don't really need to timeshift the daylight.

That would give us more light on the winter late afternoons

No. Nooooo!!!!!
I hate when it's dark when I wake up.

Yes...join us in the Atlantic time zone. We need more people...

Major Thomb

I think gavnook was addressing Volataire's comment that those in the eastern part of the timezone have less light than those in the western part of the timezone. I'm sure he just didn't explain himself.

moxie iz teh shiznite!

HighHardOne
Five Inch Taint

You are both correct and I should have explained myself better. I shouldn't have said you didn't understand since you are technically correct that you will not get more sunlight, as Taint pointed out it's just spread out differently. Wouldn't farmers in Maine have a problem with this since, I believe, they prefer more sunlight in the morning?

They banned Sassafras? I didn't get the memo. Why wasn't I told. By the way gentian extract is also the chief ingredient of Angostura Bitters which is used in Manhattan cocktails and Pink Gin.

The Mox

As a farmer (not in maine, however), the only reason these rules were created was so that kids could be back home in time to get some child labor done. Now it is more of a safety concern so that kids walking home from school don't get way-layed by a passing farker rushing home to watch Shepard Smith.

Besides, we don't give a shiat about daylight. We just get up and go to sleep. The only thing a clock is for is to let us know when the board of trade opens.

Wouldn't farmers in Maine have a problem with this since, I believe, they prefer more sunlight in the morning?

Not to call you out, but I hate when people use this argument regarding Daylight Saving(s) Time. Perhaps I have an overly romanticized view of farmers, but do they really give a fark what the clock says. I should milk Bessy, and it's getting light outside, but the clock only says... Don't farmers get up early enough to get their work done, no matter what the clock says? And don't they stay out in the fields until the sun goes down? Do they even look at clocks?

I don't know, as I don't know any farmers.

Wow, only two posts in 20 minutes, and then three while I am composing mine. Thanks, strothgar .

Just in case the other 40 or so posts about this didn't sink in:
Moxie tastes much like Nyquil+licorice+carbonation.

If you live in Maine, ask your rep to actually taste it once before voting it the official state drink.

bdbthinker

Fruvous?

Stupid.

Every few years, I buy a bottle of Moxie. And without fail, I always wind up pouring it down the drain. It's not gross, but it simply doesn't taste good enough to drink a whole glass of it.

Bullitt: Yes...join us in the Atlantic time zone. We need more people...


Why do we need more people?

gavnook:

Changing the time doesn't change the amount of sunlight you get. It would probably be a good idea for them to stay in the eastern time zone, considering half the US population lives there. If they want more sun after work or school, they can start work and school earlier.

But if they want to be dumbasses they can be dumbasses.

Exactly, that's why I hate daylight-savings time. It's total bunk. If you want it to be more light after you get done with work, get a third shift job.

Major Thomb:

It's purely a psychological thing but it works and can have a significant impact on the economy.

Yes, if you're an embalmer. There's been studies done that show more people die when we screw with the clocks than immediately before the time 'change'.

I say not only do they switch to Atlantic time, but we just go ahead and give them to Canada.

:)

Moving to the same time zone as the Maritimes? Let's go a step further and give Maine to Canada. It's a poor-ass state. I fondly remember the days when it was part of Massachusetts.

All these time zones are yours except Atlantic. Attempt no legislation there.

Seriously. Piss off. It's ours.

cwick:

Nooooo, don't throw me in that briar patch, brer ArcadianRefugee, please suh, don't make us Canucks!
/would save us the trouble of moving from this country while it circles the drain...


Fark Canada! Maine, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland & LAB, PEI and New Brunswick join together and create ATLANTICA (the new Atlantis).

cwick: Uncoolest Where do I sign up?


I should put up a website, been a dream of mine since I read about New England sending a delgation to Nova Scotia to propose the same thing before confederation.

I was camping up in Northern Maine in August, and it was quite disconcerting to see the sun rise at 4:30am...let 'em move to the Atlantic timezone...

Blech, ewww, yuck, Moxie? I'll take the crab juice!

Cutlip98:
I was camping up in Northern Maine in August, and it was quite disconcerting to see the sun rise at 4:30am...let 'em move to the Atlantic timezone...

Cutlip98, were you near Acadia? That's called Down-East for a reason... Just look at a globe... it's just about halfway to England from where NYC is...

An adventurer is me!

The time change isn't all that sensible.
Maine is between longitude 67°W and 71°W, which is right on the Eastern edge of EST. If they change to Atlantic Time, most of the state would be outside their adopted time zone.

Here's how you work it out:

15 degrees of longitude equals one hour, and zero degrees is right in the middle of the GMT time zone, so ignoring all the political stuff, the geographical time zones would run something like this (moving westward from 0)

7.5°W - 0° GMT
22.5°W - 7.5°W 1 hour behind GMT
37.5°W - 22.5°W 2 hours behind GMT
52.5°W - 37.5°W 3 hours behind GMT
67.5°W - 52.5°W 4 hours behind GMT (Atlantic)
82.5°W - 67.5°W 5 hours behind GMT (EST)
.... and so on.

Of course, countries can choose to ignore all this and make up their own time zones.....

nemisonic

Cutlip98, were you near Acadia? That's called Down-East for a reason... Just look at a globe... it's just about halfway to England from where NYC is...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I was up in Limestone, extreme northern portion of Maine...all we could get on the radio was French Canadian programming...

I think I'll have a Moxie with my Vegemite sandwich. I don't want anything that actually tastes good.

/personal opinion
//would rather have a real vanilla Coke

I'm in favor of the time change thing too. IN fact, I think everything east of the Connecticut River should be in Atlantic Time.

/grew up in NJ, lives near Boston
//hates when it gets dark at 3:00pm
///is never living at the eastern edge of a timezone ever again

Moxie...the official drink of the Bowdoin College Chemistry Department.

/It's only time for the truth to be known.
//can't stand the stuff.
///slash whore.

I vote Ayuh to all proposed bills, but
I think Allens's's Coffee Brandy is already the State Drink.

When's owah Fahk Pahty gunna be??

Oh, and try Moxie with Jager sometime.

And hey, Canada is one of the blue states right?

Sure. Move Maine ahead one hour so they can be in line with Bermuda. They can drive on the left too if they want.

China has one time zone, where they should really have 5.

In Kashi in western China, this time of year sunrise is at 10:15 & sunset is at about 8:00.

In Shenyang, closer to the east, but on roughly the same latitude as Kashi (thus having close to the same amount of sunlight), sunrise is at about 7:15 and sunset around 4:30.

Shenyang and Kashi are pretty close to the same latitude as I-70 here in the U.S.

Didn't happen to mean MOXI did they?

/if you don't like Moxie, DON"T BUY IT!

I dont. And I dont.
What's you point?
It dosnt taste any better if I buy it or not.

I've been to Moxiefest in Lisbon Falls, ME. Good times. You just haven't lived until you've eaten Moxie flavored ice cream.

Moxie Ice Cream is much better than Moxie soda, and I am one of the only people I know who actually drinks the stuff.

See also: Trying to surcharge New Hampshire residents to fund train services in Maine.

What are they on? Can I try some?

Moxie is the best drink ever. It's the only thing I really miss when I'm away from home.

I've never drunk the stuff so my jury is out on the Moxie.
But I WOULD vote for the time change.

Dammit all to hell, I'm sick of this crap where people think we can't just do normal stuff until the Big Unsolvable crap is done. Sure the cure cancer stuff is..well, it's not really funny...anyway...

Who cares if Maine has worse problems? Should they drop everything until they don't have whatever you think is worse or better. Let 'em have a little fun.

Hell.

/dammit