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(CNN)   U.S. nuclear sub runs aground in Pacific, 350 miles from nearest land mass   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 211
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2005-01-08 11:56:19 PM
That not good.

I'm sure there were several sailors shiating their pants
 
2005-01-09 12:00:41 AM
Your sub agrounde.
 
2005-01-09 12:01:13 AM

"It looks like... like the ocean floor, Admiral."
 
2005-01-09 12:05:05 AM
Sailor: "Damn radar's acting up! Says there's a land mass straight ahe-"
 
2005-01-09 12:08:48 AM
All your fast attack boats are belong to us.

And is it a "nook-YA-ler" sub or a "NEWK-lee-er" sub?

/Hope that you had a good ride, CO, because your career just asplode.
 
2005-01-09 12:19:32 AM
It bears repeating: that's not good. 20 injured, 1 critically. But at least they resurfaced, are heading back to Guam and further help is on the way.

Could have ben much more worse.
 
2005-01-09 12:21:41 AM
Don't they have all sorts of new-fangled radar to avoid this sort of thing?
 
2005-01-09 12:23:09 AM


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2005-01-09 12:27:29 AM
I blame this:
 
2005-01-09 12:31:18 AM
In other news, Defcon does not relate to the depth of a submarine.
 
2005-01-09 12:38:47 AM
Quack quack
 
2005-01-09 12:48:16 AM
Don't worry about a nuclear accident. Everthing is under control.Nevermind that man behind the curtain!
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-09 06:16:50 AM
Holy shiat, somebody's Nav chart was wrong and they bottomed out while submerged!

Good to hear they didn't breach the hull and were able to surface again!

/Rookie Bubbleheads!
 
2005-01-09 06:20:15 AM
New captain time!
 
2005-01-09 06:22:22 AM
Bet it was a sunken Japanese fishing boat that caused the problem.
 
2005-01-09 06:22:50 AM
It's a trick. We must give this Amerikan "buckaroo" pleny of breathing room.

/one ping only
 
2005-01-09 06:26:35 AM
 
2005-01-09 06:28:10 AM
Ohh yeh. That Captain is Farked.
 
2005-01-09 06:28:51 AM
Were they submerged when they went aground? Couldn't they just Surface?

Let's play this out...

Captain: "Make our Depth 200 Feet"
Diving officer: "The water's only 160 feet here"
Captain: "Don't bother me with the details..."

???????
 
2005-01-09 06:28:54 AM
unfortunately "U.S. sailor dies in nuclear sub accident" http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/09/nuclear.submarine/index.html

A U.S. sailor died Sunday, after sustaining injuries in a nuclear submarine accident a day earlier in the western Pacific, according to a statement from the U.S. Pacific Fleet.

The sailor -- whose identity has not been released -- was one of 24 wounded when the USS San Francisco ran aground about 350 miles (560 km) south of Guam -- the nearest land mass -- while it was conducting submerged operations, USPF said.
 
2005-01-09 06:30:33 AM
OK, so according to beanfield, they WERE Submerged... don't you just go a little closer to the surface if there's something in the way?

Maybe it's me...
 
2005-01-09 06:32:19 AM
monty666: Don't they have all sorts of new-fangled radar to avoid this sort of thing?

Common radars do not work under water, as water absorbs microwave effectively. Sonar is what submarines use (but they have to go active sonar..or "ping"...to check sound echo signals).

In any case, some XO is gonna lose his job...
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-09 06:34:35 AM
helioquake: In any case, some XO is gonna lose his job...


Nope the Captain will be the one not making rank next time around.
 
2005-01-09 06:36:18 AM
DAR: Nope the Captain will be the one not making rank next time around.

You'll see...
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-09 06:40:36 AM
 
2005-01-09 06:41:26 AM
Helioquake is prolly right, once you make Captain, the shiat rolls off you like water off a duck's back, and the next dude down eats it.
 
2005-01-09 06:42:04 AM
Captain, XO, OOD, and NAV are all screwed in one way or another. Along with the Quartermaster (Navigation Watch), and probably the SONAR shack.

-ET3 (SS) Dapper_Dan (retired)
 
2005-01-09 06:43:03 AM
As an ex-submariner, I can't imagine how running aground could fark up 25 people (without killing all 137 aboard). I'm curious as to whether or not there was some other emergency beforehand, which caused the injuries and the running aground.
 
2005-01-09 06:47:22 AM
Rubble: They were probably field-daying, and it knocked around the lazy Coners who were back aft sleeping...err...cleaning in the overhead :)
 
2005-01-09 06:47:22 AM
i'd sure hate to be the guy they blame it on, especially since someone died.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-09 06:47:46 AM
Dapper_Dan: ET3 (SS) Dapper_Dan (retired)


Dude, you only made ET3 prior to retirement? What happen shipmate did you get busted down just before your 20 was up?
 
2005-01-09 06:50:38 AM
Dapper Dan's right. Even if, hypothetically, the CO was golden enough to not eat shiat from the grounding, no CO could avoid eating shiatting for the negligent death of one of his crew (and running aground is ALWAYS considered a negligent act on the part of the CO).

(Dapper Dan, how the hell did you retire as an E-4?)
 
2005-01-09 06:52:34 AM
How the heck do you drive them things without any windows? I tried this in the bath last night with a summerged bottle of shampoo and my eyes closed. Kept crashing into various bodily protruberences. Yep, there would have been a lot of dead seamen.
 
2005-01-09 06:53:33 AM
Quick Note: The "retirement" thing was a joke...I was 24 when I got out. Did my 4 yrs, and decided not to spend any more time underwater unless I was in a swimming pool.
 
2005-01-09 06:54:02 AM
Dapper_Dan:

A novice question for ya. How does a submarine actually navigate? Considering there is no window to look out, do you navigate a submarine based on some kind of computerized/paper topological map of the ocean to dodge obstacles (not that I don't expect a submarine to operate near the ocean floor all the time).

USS San Francisco sounds like it may hit the ocean floor hard and fast.
 
2005-01-09 06:54:28 AM
They were probably field-daying...

Good call, I didn't think of that. But it is Sunday, and that would probably play a part in how this happened, too.
 
2005-01-09 06:55:07 AM
Turn on the machine that goes Ping!
 
2005-01-09 06:55:56 AM
A novice question for ya. How does a submarine actually navigate?

Well, the USS San Fran navigates by touch.
 
2005-01-09 06:56:09 AM
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DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-09 06:57:29 AM
Rubble: Well, the USS San Fran navigates by touch.

Too funny!
 
2005-01-09 06:58:35 AM
I'll admit I'm a little out of my field, as I'm Army, not Navy, but I thought a boat skipper was roughly the equivalent of a Battalion Commander. I've seen many a Battalion Commander skate right by after the negligent death of soldiers in their commands that were following unit SOP's and the like.
 
2005-01-09 07:00:06 AM
helioquake: I signed a waiver saying I can't talk about anything for 70 years. Shoot me your Email addy and I will tell you when I'm 94.
 
2005-01-09 07:02:01 AM
Dude, you only made ET3 prior to retirement? What happen shipmate did you get busted down just before your 20 was up?

good point... and push button nukes make ET3 in under a year, so that's kinda weird. (made MM3 in 4 months prior to getting my commission).

the sub story reminds me of a screw up onboard one of the other ships while we were in the persian gulf... they were set to sail through the Malaka Straits the next morning but arrived there earlier than expected (the Navigator had plotted out the course wrong)... anyway, for some unknown reason, the OOD decides to continue through the Straits without calling the CO or setting sea and anchor detail... the ship ends up colliding with another one and ended up with only one major injury - a fatality... it was the Navigator who was knocked out of his rack (bed) by the force of the collision and broke his neck in the fall. weird.
 
2005-01-09 07:06:02 AM
McHale!!!
 
2005-01-09 07:06:28 AM
Co, Nav, OOD, QM Div O and the QM on duty at the least wil have some 'splaning to do. Seeing as all undersea mountains are charted, unless a new one suddenly appeared out of nowhere a few people will be out of a job.

Hopefully the boat wont be so "bent" that it will need to be decommissioned. Something like this happened to the Nat Green in the 80's and it was cheaper to scrap her than to fix her. My guess is this boat is about 20+ years old. It might not be worth fixing.
 
2005-01-09 07:07:00 AM
Dapper_Dan: I signed a waiver saying I can't talk about anything for 70 years.

Glad you take the waiver seriously. No problem here. I think I can figure it out myself eventually.
 
2005-01-09 07:07:31 AM
The Battleship Missouri once ran aground on a sandbar while entering Chesapeak Bay. The veteran sailor doing the steering was familiar with the channel and protested to the Captain that they would run aground unless they changed course. The Captain ignored him. It was a career ending move.

Another battleship, New Jersey, I think, also ran onto a sandbar while entering San Francisco Bay.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2005-01-09 07:07:57 AM
Glad to see I'm not the only old sailor who still wakes up at 5 AM.

/not by choice anyway!
 
2005-01-09 07:09:18 AM
Or maybe they were conducting some sort of drill (fire/flooding, etc)? The boat makes drastic course/depth changes during those drills. This might explain how so many people got injured, since all 137 people onboard would have been up during a drill?

Chelsea: Was just kidding about the retired thing. Went in as a QMSN, was an ET3 (cross-rated) by the time my 4 yrs was up.
 
2005-01-09 07:09:20 AM
I'll admit I'm a little out of my field, as I'm Army, not Navy, but I thought a boat skipper was roughly the equivalent of a Battalion Commander. I've seen many a Battalion Commander skate right by after the negligent death of soldiers in their commands that were following unit SOP's and the like.

the Navy isn't so much concerned with deaths as it is with ships/subs that bump into things... you can have sailors "fall up ladders" and it's not a career ender, but running into anything gets you called before the green carpet very quickly. Plus, with the limited number of ship/subs, there are more than enough other O-5's waiting in line to get their CAS pins to take over.
 
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