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(Reuters)   Suspected klansmen arrested for 1964 "Mississippi Burning" Civil Rights murders   (reuters.com) divider line 154
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2005-01-07 12:14:13 PM
i hope the last thing he ever sees in his life is the glistening visage of a naked, oiled, cellmate named Bubba
 
2005-01-07 12:19:02 PM
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA!!!

What's the f*cking rush to justice, here, huh?!
 
2005-01-07 12:44:23 PM
I'm fairly interested to know why they've gone after him again. I'm sure the hung jury he got the first time around was a product of the times, but they sure got enough other convictions at the time to make their point and effect a cultural shift. Just makes me wonder; did something new come to light or has some prosecutor had a hard-on about getting this guy once and for all for all these years...?
 
2005-01-07 12:46:23 PM
did something new come to light or has some prosecutor had a hard-on about getting this guy once and for all for all these years...?

Nothing's been said about new evidence or testimony in other articles. I guess we won't know until the trial itself.
 
2005-01-07 12:52:57 PM
This is one trial I would like to follow (rather than the Petersen crap). I hope he gets a fair trial and, if he did it, it still alive to be brought to justice.

I refuse to to any conclusions about his guilt without more eveidence, though.
 
2005-01-07 01:17:40 PM
"Mississippi Burning" was a fictional account.

/and a stinky movie.
 
2005-01-07 02:33:53 PM
"Mississippi Burning" was a fictional account.

it just happened to be about how two activists and a black man were pulled over for speeding, and shot on the side of the road. pure coincidence.
 
2005-01-07 02:39:22 PM
Philadelphia, Missippi. What a great place to start a presidential campaign talking about "states rights"!
 
2005-01-07 02:40:53 PM
Can I get another "iss", please?
 
2005-01-07 02:46:33 PM
Toleraen:

it just happened to be about how two activists and a black man were pulled over for speeding, and shot on the side of the road. pure coincidence.


Easy there cowboy. We disected this film for a class I took. On the DVD version there is a big disclaimer that states that it was fiction.
 
2005-01-07 03:02:20 PM
Easy there cowboy. We disected this film for a class I took. On the DVD version there is a big disclaimer that states that it was fiction.

and waterbongs are for tabacco use only!


yes, it was a "fictional account". but you know what incident they were directly refering to.
 
2005-01-07 04:30:22 PM
Toleraen:

yes, it was a "fictional account". but you know what incident they were directly refering to.


Why yes. Yes I do. That's why we watched the film.

It sucked going into a movie like that, knowing what should happen, but doesn't.
 
2005-01-07 05:12:04 PM
For many Americans, the silent complicity of Philadelphia residents -- many knew the civil rights workers had been killed while the FBI searched for them -- was almost as shocking as the crime itself.

Local toughs taunted FBI agents and intimidated journalists, and a climate of fear in the town insured that those who spoke out against the murders were quickly silenced.


Can't those farking wastes of DNA be tried on accessory charges or something?

I'm just beyond belief (but sadly, not surprised) that it has taken this long.
 
2005-01-07 05:44:59 PM
Klansmen! Well I'll be...
 
2005-01-07 05:48:56 PM
Sometimes I get angry at what the Southerners did to blacks and whatnot, and I get all furious wishing hellfire and brimstone upon them, but then I remember the fond old days of Civil War and Reconstruction and how we basically burned the entire South down and danced on the ashes during the Civil War. Since they weren't man enough to take it out on us Northerners they took it out on blacks instead.
 
2005-01-07 05:50:44 PM
 
2005-01-07 05:50:56 PM
What about Statute of Limitations?
 
2005-01-07 05:52:03 PM
Total misunderstanding, I was going to a costume party as a ghost.
 
2005-01-07 05:52:37 PM
Edgar Ray Killen, 79, was arrested without incident Thursday night in the sleepy eastern Mississippi town of Philadelphia

-If he was in the real city of brotherly love, nature would have taken it's course and Killen would have been shot in an armed robbery years ago. They should drop him in the Badlands for his punishment.
 
2005-01-07 05:52:53 PM
tobster85,

No statute of limitations on murder, as far as I know.
 
2005-01-07 05:53:49 PM
I'm in Mississippi, and I don't know if this article said it or not, but the guys family also threatened a news crew and there was a bomb threat during the arraignment.

This has been all over the news here.

This guy is pure evil, and deserves what's coming his way.
 
2005-01-07 05:54:07 PM
we basically burned the entire South down and danced on the ashes during the Civil War

That was you?!
 
2005-01-07 05:54:33 PM
Opposite George: No statute of limitations on murder, as far as I know.

That's right, which is why I occasionally have to go out and check every one of those gravesites to make sure they haven't been disturbed. Let me tell you, 50 different sites scattered all over the state take a long damn time to check up on.

shiat, did I say that out loud?
 
2005-01-07 05:54:53 PM
I'm all for not convicting a person in the court of public opinion, but the only reason he isn't in jail now was because of the racism of the times and area (which hasn't disappeared as much as been supressed). So I can't wait for that motherfarker to go to jail, and I can't wait for that community to be reminded of the evil that they sheltered. I'm sure there are good people there, and they won't sweat it, but those who had this coming...oh I can't wait!
 
2005-01-07 05:55:24 PM
Good
 
2005-01-07 05:55:40 PM
link to the local paper article.

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050107/NEWS01/50107 0 15
 
2005-01-07 05:56:34 PM
"Killen's trial ended in a hung jury".

Any leads as to who hung these twelve jurors ?

Were any of these "hung" jurors porno stars ?

Seriously, It looks like you can be tried a second time on the same charge if the first trial ended in a hung jury. I thought you could never be tried twice on the same charge.
 
2005-01-07 05:57:22 PM
I heard a part of an NPR interview with the investigator who essentially brought this back into the light. The investigator was given a transcript of a secretly recorded conversation of the man who was originally convicted (???) of the crime (or one of his associates) that basically said he was glad he was convicted because the guilty party was in the courtroom and walked out a freeman, hence implicating Killen. Presumably because he was a higher ranking member of the White Knights (KKK).

Granted I was half listening so I would take this with a spoonfull of salt.
 
2005-01-07 05:57:35 PM
bbcrackmonkey

I'll just assume that's not an attempt to justify their actions, crackmonkey. Yes, I guess they took it out on the wrong people.
 
2005-01-07 05:57:40 PM
If they got the right guys, I hope they spend the rest of their miserable lives in prison. How cowardly for a bunch of assholes to get together to kill these unarmed kids.
 
2005-01-07 05:59:45 PM
BuzzBoy: I thought you could never be tried twice on the same charge.

The trial is not complete until a verdict has been rendered. Since a mistrial is not a verdict, he can be tried again, since he was never really tried (properly) the first time.
 
2005-01-07 05:59:55 PM
I'm sure there are good people there, and they won't sweat it. . .

Everyone sweats in Mississippi, it is Mississipi's state sport.
 
2005-01-07 06:00:52 PM
Though he's no longer likely to get buggered by a cell-mate, I'll say it anyway: The only things that'll be segregated from now on are his butt-cheeks.
yuk yuk


/cheap, I know
 
2005-01-07 06:01:51 PM
listen to the interview on this page and hear how crappy my Captain Morgan rotted memory is.

NPR WEBSITE MAYTEE!,
 
2005-01-07 06:01:58 PM
i submitted this with " Klu Klux Klanmen, Killen Kaught Killing"

was allready submitted .... i like my headline better
 
2005-01-07 06:02:22 PM
hey it's not the heat it's the humidity.

/lives in Jackson
 
2005-01-07 06:03:47 PM
Abbott: Who's the guy who killed those people?
Costello: Killen.
Abbott: That's what I'm asking. What's the guys name who killed those people?
Costello: Right. Killen.
Abbott: I know that! I'm trying to get the guy's name!

ad infinitum
 
2005-01-07 06:04:35 PM
The hung jury was due to one woman that said she couldn't convit a preacher.

The guys knickname is "Preacher", I don't think he was an actual preacher.
 
2005-01-07 06:05:31 PM
'bout time
 
2005-01-07 06:07:16 PM
Double jeopardy only applies if he was found not guilty... there is no statute of limitations on capitol murder....
jeebus people don't you watch law and order
/rest in peace jerry orbach
 
2005-01-07 06:07:31 PM
All they did by arresting a dude this old is give him free health care and probably around a 2 year sentence.
 
2005-01-07 06:08:44 PM
bbcrackmonkey

"Sometimes I get angry at what the Southerners did to blacks and whatnot, and I get all furious wishing hellfire and brimstone upon them, but then I remember the fond old days of Civil War and Reconstruction and how we basically burned the entire South down and danced on the ashes during the Civil War. Since they weren't man enough to take it out on us Northerners they took it out on blacks instead."

Yes we paid for it and are still paying for it in some respects (I.E. southern stereotypes, etc). Funny that no one "burned down and danced on the ashes" of the people who settled Michigan after they basically stole from and starved the native American population
 
2005-01-07 06:09:57 PM
The thing missing from this--as everyone directs their obvious ire toward the local residents of the time--is the direct intimidation of white sympathizers.

There were far more white sympathizers than the media give credit to. These whites (as a child, my mom was one, more or less) were subjected to the same level of psychological/physical intimidation as blacks themselves. It's a no-win situation when even your local law enforcement is corrupt. There's nobody you can go to, especially as a kid, so you just keep your mouth shut to avoid trouble.

I can't even imagine living in such a time, and I'm glad I have no memory of this. It's beyond my comprehension.
 
2005-01-07 06:10:09 PM
Former Chilean Dictator, Augusto Pinochet, now 89 was about to be put on trial again but his doctor interceeded by stating he was too old and frail to stand trial. He will therefore be under house arrest for the remainder of his life.

Let's face it, if they convict Killen, the only punishment he'll get is a jail cell and free health care for the rest of his life. It would be cheaper to put him under house arrest and make him pay for his own health care. He probably has Medicare so we're all paying for it.
 
2005-01-07 06:11:47 PM
I didn't steal or starve anyone thank you. and I would look to the south again at good ole oklahoma and every state in a straight line east.... remember the trail of tears... it runs right that way.
 
2005-01-07 06:12:14 PM
naterbater beat me to it
 
2005-01-07 06:14:01 PM
fark that guy....may he rot in hell
 
2005-01-07 06:14:11 PM
Wasn't America innocent back then? "Happy Days" and all that?

They should give him the sign similar to what Bruce Willis wore in Die Hard 3 and drop him off in South Central.
 
2005-01-07 06:15:19 PM
Check out www.rebelarmy.com for some asshats who think this guy is a hero.
 
2005-01-07 06:16:06 PM
NikolaiFarkoff

"There were far more white sympathizers than the media give credit to"

True but most of them were against the violence. Very few southerners were for intergration. My father being one. I asked him about it one time and he said, "I just didn't know anything different and all of a sudden these people were coming from out of state telling us to change our society. I realize now I was wrong, but at the time I just didn't think that much about it."
 
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