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(ICNetwork)   Ministry of Housing finds 1,000 unlicensed TVs a day with "fleet of high-tech detector vans." Loonies fear Eric the Half-a-Bee detector van next   (icwestlothian.icnetwork.co.uk) divider line 293
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2005-01-06 11:13:35 AM  
Do they say ministry of 'ousinge on the the side?
 
2005-01-06 11:31:46 AM  
Cyril Connelly?
 
2005-01-06 11:40:12 AM  
Wasn't there a similar thread on fark a few weeks ago?

I used to live in the UK, and yes TV licensing sucks. What's worse is you have to pay for that plus any cable/satelite service you have.

On the other side, the BBC does have lots of good programming that would probably never get made if the Beeb were an advertising or PPV service. Ever watched Discovery channel and seen how many programs are made by the BBC?
 
2005-01-06 11:40:18 AM  
Nooo, semi-carnally.
 
2005-01-06 11:42:13 AM  
I still find TV licences to be retarded.

Their government should just tax TV's or something.

What a pain in the ass. Who has the time anymore? There's TV that needs to be watched.
 
2005-01-06 12:17:16 PM  
wtf is "tv licensing"?
 
2005-01-06 12:19:38 PM  
I'm tired of this flamewar, so let's get this out of the way before it hits the main page...

Yanks: Your communist government charges you a tax on TV and you pay it? That sucks and you're stoopid.

Brits: It's not a government tax, they just enforce the payment, and it's still better than watching sucky TV comprising of more advertising than lowest-common-denominator programming.
 
2005-01-06 12:31:06 PM  
It's things like this which cause unrest.
 
2005-01-06 12:34:58 PM  
So when is the rebellion scheduled?
 
2005-01-06 12:35:31 PM  
do you have to take tv ed to get one of these licenses?

/i dont get it...
 
2005-01-06 12:35:33 PM  
TV license used to fund the BBC. But even if you can prove you never watch the Beeb, you still have to pay it. So it's a tax, not a license. It baffles me how we all (US and UK) put up with paying for TV, then having to sit through commercials. Aren't the commercials supposed to be paying for the TV?
 
2005-01-06 12:35:35 PM  
Brits: It's not a government tax, they just enforce the payment,

Huh?!
 
2005-01-06 12:35:37 PM  
Maybe they should use the money raised on dental repair instead???

/troll
 
2005-01-06 12:36:41 PM  
Was it spelled like that on the van?
 
2005-01-06 12:38:13 PM  
Queue the Americans ignorant that in the UK, televisions are licensed to pay for BBC programming.
 
2005-01-06 12:38:29 PM  
MiniHouse! That's doubleplus ungood.
 
2005-01-06 12:38:49 PM  
binnster [TotalFark] , then one serious question. If you have a computer set up like I have, with a TV tuner, would they be able to find out you have that ?


Personally, I think all problems in the UK are easier to understand when you have Yakety Sax playing in your mind, and a fast-moving group of people running through a field.

 
2005-01-06 12:39:05 PM  
I refuse to believe there is 'detector' equipment - this is a myth to scare all those who evade the license.

After all, the TV signal is a blanket cover and anyone who sticks a metal stick in the air has got it - how the hell do you detect that?

All they have is a big database of who has licences and who has not - and most of the time they end up sending warnings etc to empty houses and to houses that don't actually have a TV (yes, they do exist).

Don't fall for this fale 'mobile detection units' rubbish.
 
2005-01-06 12:39:05 PM  
moops ...or even Cue the Americans....
 
2005-01-06 12:39:27 PM  
Wow. So what if you have a video capture card in your PC and an antenna connected to it so you can watch broadcasts without a TV?
 
2005-01-06 12:39:51 PM  
i dont understand anything contained in that headline.
we will pay for associating with the brits.
 
Zel [TotalFark]
2005-01-06 12:40:00 PM  
Outsourced_to_India I read about this some time ago, the brits have some sort of tax that pays for public broadcast channels, which is why their BBC is such a higher quality than american PBS/NPR. Thing is, the government doesnt get the money, they collect and enforce payment then hand the money over to whomever it belongs, it's technically not a tax that way, although it sure looks like one to us.
 
2005-01-06 12:40:16 PM  
Was it spelled like that on the van?

Yes, I'm very observant!

My God, how can I recall that piece of dialog from years ago when I can barely remember to put my pants on in the morning?
 
2005-01-06 12:40:21 PM  


You didn't pay the telly fee? Quick Vivian eat the telly!
 
2005-01-06 12:40:32 PM  
Maybe he(she?) meant queue. As in line 'em up.

Firing Squad?
 
2005-01-06 12:40:46 PM  
A license for a tv? but doesnt that hamper them using it to control the masses by turning them all into brain dead reality show fans?

god bless the usa!
 
2005-01-06 12:41:03 PM  
No, StanyanStreet, semi-CARNALLY.
 
2005-01-06 12:41:14 PM  
bonno The detector listens for EM transmissions typical of a TV. Every piece of electrical gear gives off some EM waves. TVs have their own unique EM signature and that's what they look for. They're absolutely not a myth. They have a database of all the people who've got a license. They then cruise the streets slowly, looking for EM signatures. When they find one, they check the database and if the house in question has no license, they knock on the door and you're turned into a criminal.
 
2005-01-06 12:41:35 PM  
skinink

Personally, I think all problems in the UK are easier to understand when you have Yakety Sax playing in your mind, and a fast-moving group of people running through a field.

Haaaahahahahhahahaaaaaa!!

/tatoos are for people who don't respect their bodies.
 
2005-01-06 12:41:53 PM  
So if one of their handy dandy detector vans detects a TV being used they can bust down your door? Hey, I though the Nazis lost the war??? Google: "Operation Paperclip"
 
2005-01-06 12:42:04 PM  
Thats why if you're going to have an unlicensed TV, use an ATI-all-in wonder card on a PC with a very big monitor.
 
2005-01-06 12:42:09 PM  
Detector vans. Ha ha. I bet a bunch of guys just bust into your house and say, "'ello, wot's all this, then?".
 
2005-01-06 12:43:07 PM  
This is socialism folks.

If you like high taxes and stuff like this vote for Hillary Clinton in 2008.
 
2005-01-06 12:43:29 PM  
Yeah, we had a similar thread dealing with the most common excuses for evading the TV licensing fee.

This seriously blows the minds of any American that I tell it to.
 
2005-01-06 12:43:34 PM  
Don't worry lads. I always poo before I get up.
 
2005-01-06 12:44:02 PM  
chrisell

They then cruise the streets slowly, looking for EM signatures. When they find one, they check the database and if the house in question has no license, they knock on the door and ....

...you tell them to bugger off and come back with a warrant. While they are getting one, you carry the telly into the attic or out the back door.
 
2005-01-06 12:44:05 PM  
We don't necessarily pay for TV in the states unless you want Cable or Satellite TV. You can stick rabbit ears (an antenna) and provided you can recieve the signal will pay nothing for TV.

But you will suffer from lack of variety and signal strength.

It looks likes to me the TV license is just another tax to support state run TV...granted you do get some better programming than what we get here in the U.S.

Even Public Broadcasting TV gets some money from the gov't, but they still must run pledge drives to augment what the US Gov't gives them.

This show some of the difference between the States and Britain which is more socialist than the U.S. Look at both TV and other subsidized industries such as aviation and airlines.
 
2005-01-06 12:44:18 PM  
binnster
Yanks: Your communist government charges you a tax on TV and you pay it? That sucks and you're stoopid.

we do? other than sales tax when you buy one, if your state charges sales tax
 
2005-01-06 12:44:27 PM  
bonno

They can if you're using a CRT. They can pick up the EM fields coming off of it and then decode that into an image. If it's showing the BBC and not a computer desktop or something. Well, you're busted. Still, seems like a lot of trouble.

Use an LCD or other non-CRT screen to avoid this detection. Or line the inside of your house with aluminum foil.
 
2005-01-06 12:44:56 PM  
Go here for the FAQ:
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/
(New window freshness)
 
2005-01-06 12:45:07 PM  
Having lived in Canada for the last three years and having to watch the crap braodcast voer hear, I miss paying my TV licence as I realise now it was damn good value for money. I find I have to pay a large amount of money monthly to get 100 channels just so Ican find enough to watch as I did i nthe UK. What do I end up watching PBS showings of BBC produced programs that would never get made here...

I hated the whole Licence when I lived in the UK,but now I understand its one of the best concepts the British government has kept in place.
 
2005-01-06 12:46:04 PM  
We don't necessarily pay for TV in the states unless you want Cable or Satellite TV. You can stick rabbit ears (an antenna) and provided you can recieve the signal will pay nothing for TV.

Not only that, but we can even pick up High Definition signals for several stations where I live. Free HDTV. Can't beat that.
 
2005-01-06 12:46:20 PM  
chrisell: TVs have their own unique EM signature and that's what they look for.

So, all we need now is a device that only generates that signature....
 
2005-01-06 12:46:55 PM  
The looney detector van, you mean...
 
2005-01-06 12:47:04 PM  
fredklein. A Warrant? Ah yes. You've made the classic mistake of believing we have rights in England. No no no no. When the TV license people come around, they already have the right to search your house on the basis of a suspected crime. What you do is open the door, bend over, and ask them to be gentle. A pot of vaseline wouldn't go amiss. :-)
 
2005-01-06 12:47:07 PM  
I can't go to prison. I'm too pretty. I'll get raped.
 
2005-01-06 12:47:43 PM  
"A colour TV Licence costs 121.00 and a black and white licence costs 40.50." (annually)

121.00 GBP United Kingdom Pounds = 226.687 USD United States Dollars

Now that sucks.
 
2005-01-06 12:47:49 PM  
BritBoy trolling nicely....
 
2005-01-06 12:49:15 PM  
bootymama ... and bear in mind that's $226 before you've even turned it on. Add on the extra $bazillion a month for decent channels and the average family shells out nearly $1000 a year just to watch TV!
 
2005-01-06 12:50:15 PM  
AcornMan: Free HDTV. Can't beat that.

Yeah, 'cos nothing beats getting to see "Who's Your Daddy?" in high definition.
 
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