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2005-01-05 05:33:40 PM
President Bush, who has pledged $350 million in U.S. aid to help victims of Asian countries ravaged by the tsunami, has contributed $10,000 from his personal funds to the relief effort, his spokesman said Wednesday.


I would've been more impressed if he'd:

a) Given an amount relating more significantly to his own personal wealth.

And:

b) Not got his spokesperson to broadcast his donation to the world like he wants his back patted for it.

Still, good effort, well done.
 
2005-01-05 05:33:40 PM
Hey Joey,

I've signed up to donate 100 dollars of my income monthly for the next 12 months. I only make about 18 grand a year. your a college student, correct my math if you need to...but 11 dollars a month at 12 months is 1200 dollars. I think that's not too bad. I've also volunteered to go over if I can to do whatever I can. My company is looking at sponsering me if we can get everything set up. Is that enough for me to qualify to biatch about Bush and his donation? Yeah, 10g's is nothing to scoff at...but you and I both know that he's got the ability to put more out.


I'm suprised we haven't heard: "We have discovered that this is an act of terrorism" yet...
 
2005-01-05 05:33:44 PM
If this makes Bush a hero, what would Sandra Bullock be? The Second Coming of Christ?

Could be. She's got me believing in God.

/not really.
//she's just wicked hawt
 
2005-01-05 05:34:05 PM
Percentages, people. Percentages.
 
2005-01-05 05:34:24 PM

"Look at what's happened to me
I can't believe it myself
Suddenly I'm up on top of the world
It should've been somebody else"
 
2005-01-05 05:34:43 PM
me too me too
 
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2005-01-05 05:34:49 PM


Step 1: Go donate something.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.
 
2005-01-05 05:34:59 PM
To all you who are biatching about this:

How much is enough? What's the magic number? If I give every penny of my disposable income, but continue to live in a nice house and drive a nice car, am I evil? Should one sell all of their Earthly goods to finance their charity? You're typing away on a PC that's probably worth at the very least $200. Why haven't you sold it and donated the proceeds? Typing on a library computer? Why aren't you dedicating this time instead to relief efforts? What is enough? What is that magic percentage?

Grow the hell up. People give what they can and what they want. Personal charity should *never* be criticised.


/Can't believe I'm defending Bush...
 
2005-01-05 05:35:14 PM
Roy_D_Mercer:

He's doing everything right in this crisis, and all you idiots can do is point and jeer.

Actually, no. The administration made a huge mistake in announcing that first $15mln pledge. While I personally have no problem believing that was just a start, I doubt the rest of the world feels the same way.

Now, it just looks as if we were pressured into giving more by the UN. Thus, we're still cheapskates, but dropping a shiatload of money in the process. Basically the worst possible outcome.

The underlying problem is that Bush has zero grasp on the subtleties of diplomacy. Much of the skill in politics is in how you portray your own actions. Ignoring his policies themselves (which is another issue entirely), he has proven time and time again that he's incapable of painting even his own actions in anything resembling a decent light.
 
2005-01-05 05:35:34 PM
How much did Kerry donate?
 
2005-01-05 05:35:47 PM
Anyone that has a problem with people complaining about Bush spending more on his daughters STD meds than on a charity need to remember one *small* thing:

FREEDOM OF SPEECH. DON'T LIKE IT? MOVE TO IRAN.

OR CLOSE YOUR FARKING BROWSER.
 
2005-01-05 05:36:06 PM
If this makes Bush a hero, what would Sandra Bullock be? The Second Coming of Christ?

SpellCheck wins the thread
 
2005-01-05 05:36:07 PM
And Michael Schumacher donated a cool 10 million....of his own money.
 
2005-01-05 05:36:30 PM
No matter what the headline actually says, any article that says "bush" in it is going to have a flame war.

The Lefts will say: Only 10k? give me a break, he's worth more than that!
The Rights will say: you guys are pricks, how much are you giving? You want him to give everything he has?

The lefts will reply: of course he should give up everything, he's an idiot, he'd only end up wasting it anyway...I bet that 10k probably came from my social security. Why doesn't he just send haliburton over there to work for free?

and so on and so forth, I'm kinda left leaning and I couldn't think of anything else for the right side to say, but I bet Mike_71 could help me out. The point is that both sides suck, and this article was just green lighted to get a rise out of you. :-P
 
2005-01-05 05:36:33 PM
I've got a secret for you. Bush isn't making most of his money from his salary. He and his family are earning massive perks and kickbacks.

I dunno about perks and kickbacks. But obviously his income isn't restricted to his salary -- he owns stocks and has other investments that produce income.
 
2005-01-05 05:36:49 PM
MiiPandaa

As another farker posted today, this would actually look LESS bad if he had given nothing.

Usually I don't respond in this manner.. But are you Retarded? Not giving money is better than giving money? Seriously.. Think before you speak so that we can't discover the level or your retardation immediately.

 
2005-01-05 05:36:49 PM
Treasure Cat

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Asia-Tsunami/Howard-promises-1-billion-in-aid/2005/ 01/05/1104832180468.html

There you go mate, hate Howard but cant argue with what he's doing......
 
2005-01-05 05:37:36 PM

Hm. Random note: Amazon's "Honor System" permits contributions to the American Red Cross Tsunami Disaster Relief fund. The stats here (for only amzn.com giving, I would suppose) cite 178,267 payments for a total of US$14,431,587.77, for an average of ~$80.95 a donation.


Of course, I would suspect it's highly skewed. Would be interesting to know what the median is.

 
2005-01-05 05:37:40 PM
It was nice of him to do and all - but it hardly makes him a hero.

*considers*

It might knock a few years off of the million years he'll be spending in hell, though.
 
2005-01-05 05:37:40 PM
Weaver95: Bush wouldn't have beaten Kerry so badly.

Ahem. 52% is NOT a landslide victory.
 
2005-01-05 05:37:43 PM
geeeee how nice of him
 
2005-01-05 05:37:44 PM
LD Edward

How'd you setup to donate $100 monthly? I'll do that.
 
2005-01-05 05:37:45 PM
he owns stocks and has other investments that produce income.

And just like every other person elected to the Office of the President, those investments are put into a blind trust.
 
2005-01-05 05:37:46 PM
I don't think the argument is that what he gave is too little, but rather is the amount he gave newsworthy? (given the amount he make)
 
2005-01-05 05:37:52 PM
I'm seeing a classic example of liberal thinking.

"Give more! You can afford it!"

He could have given NOTHING. Would that satisfy you?

/sure, "hero" might be pushing it depending on your definition, but still a good act
 
2005-01-05 05:38:03 PM
Weaver95

Ted Rall is a f*cking cartoonist for entertainment weeklies. Ann Coulter, on the other hand, is a respected columnist in right wing circles. Some people actually take Coulter's ideas seriously. Rall doesn't write anything beyond satire. Get some perspective on your comparisons, you wingnut.

 
2005-01-05 05:38:11 PM
So it would have made more sense for the Bush administration to announce what? In the face of this disaster we're planning to give $20B? whatever it takes? more than you expect?

/seems like a bunch of useless tittering over a simple press release
 
2005-01-05 05:38:34 PM
Maybe he thought all their brown people were Mexicans.
 
2005-01-05 05:38:43 PM


Bullock in '08!
 
2005-01-05 05:38:46 PM
Ahem. 52% is NOT a landslide victory.

Better than either of Clinton's victories or Kennedy's election for that matter.
 
2005-01-05 05:38:51 PM
argmanah: 10k out of 400k is 2.5%, not 0.025%.

DON'T BE STUPID OK?


dude, I donated more than that to the cause and I don't even have enough to pay bills this month,, geesh...
what a crappy use of the HERO tag
 
2005-01-05 05:38:52 PM
Logistic

What does freedom of speech have to do with ANYTHING going on here?

/wow....!
 
2005-01-05 05:38:57 PM
oddballgeek

any donation is good. $1 woulda been good. i don't understand how people can turn a personal donation towards a good cause into something negative.

Upon further review, this comment wins the thread.
 
2005-01-05 05:39:23 PM
Theburner,

I may be wrong in this, but from everything I've heard, NOBODY has donated as much as the U.S. I failed to see your point at being mad at one section of the world...
 
2005-01-05 05:39:25 PM
Why do Canadians HATE Bush? He is not even their leader. Yet they hate/despise him. I could care less who their PM is.

Canada is boderline socialist, and if we felt the same way we would not have the money we do. With that money we have the ultimate army. We will always protect Canada from invasion, and they know it. So keep your pie holes shut, Canada, about our leader. When he donates $12,000 CAN then maybe.

///Michael Schumacher donates $10,000,000.00 Lets see if Tiger Woods can keep up with him now. Schumi rules.
 
2005-01-05 05:39:32 PM
One of my favorite Fark activities is checking the locations of the people who post pro-Bush or pro-Ann Coulter messages.

Always, always from some hick-fark part of the country. Makes me laugh.

But StanyanStreet, you are a disgrace to your fellow San Franciscans.
 
2005-01-05 05:39:32 PM
The president earns $400,000/yr, which according to this, means he got at least $7,173 (which is the average for the 200-500K range) on his base salary. Not that far off from his "tax cut". I'm sure it's coming straight out of his return.

I really do think the presidents philosophy is going to backfire on him. Yes, people are generous, when individual responsibility is emphasized. That's kind of hard to do when you have a protracted disaster like the a tsunami. People will forget, the initial outpouring will fade, and americans will go back to their football.

Personally, I say, cancel the inauguration and any other unnecessary luxuries and send them an assload of food and helicopters.

Yes, I did donate, what I could, which percentage wise of my income was much more than the presidents. I'm also considering sending my whole damn tax return to the red cross this year. Again, not much, but if my fellow Americans aren't willing to unite and sends a few BILLION in food over there, I'll send a few thousand.

Have we really gotten that scared of government that we don't want it to do anything other than make guns and regulate the economy?
 
2005-01-05 05:39:39 PM
To all the folks (love him or hate him) saying its a good thing he donated, I agree, and my hat is off to you. Especially those who dislike him but appreciate his donation. You are adults who can give credit where it is due.

To all those who gripe "Just 10000???", well I suspect you hate Bush and no matter how much he gave, you would have griped, no? Really. Some of you will say anything to bash him, and those of you in this thread griping about it prove that.

He gave, and that is what matters.
 
2005-01-05 05:39:47 PM
Ann Coulter, on the other hand, is a respected columnist in right wing circles.

And you know this because you're so prominent in right wing circles, right?
 
2005-01-05 05:39:54 PM
BTW, did anyone notice that JEB Bush was over there with Colin Powell? I won't be surprised when he runs for president in 2008. He's just getting set up now.
 
2005-01-05 05:40:08 PM
ooooh wewt my whole outlook on bush is renewed, what a wonderful man of the people, oh my god! wow holy cow!

didnt that big face actress lady from uhmm that movie with the bus give a one million dollars bill?
 
2005-01-05 05:40:35 PM
hero my ass.
 
2005-01-05 05:41:12 PM
Ok.. um.. I didn't read all the posts so this may have already been said, but here goes... Oooooo 10,000 dollars, what a special person he is! *cough cough* Why does this have a hero tag? Do you people have any idea how much money bush has? It would be like me donating .001 cents. Perhaps he should throw up some of his money to pay for his war instead?
 
2005-01-05 05:41:17 PM
Weaver95 [TotalFark]

Did you reach this conclusion before or after you started on your new medication?

Dunno about him, but I reached it after looking at his taxes:

http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/968A0298DD56761B85256E44 00790D0E/$file/bush01.pdf

Numbers don't lie, republicans do. ;)
firefly
 
2005-01-05 05:41:22 PM
Weaver95:

I wonder tho - does that say something about the President? Or does it say something more about those who hate him?

It says that he's going to have to do a lot more than this for me to like the guy.

Like un-stealing two elections, getting millions of jobs reinstated, firing Karl Rove and Rumsfeld, and apologizing for every incredibly stupid thing he's ever said or done to bring shame to America.

Oops! I forgot about the whole "getting over 100,000 people killed for this war-for-oil thingy"...I do not know WHAT he could do to make up for THAT...

Are you honestly expecting us to say, "Well, Bush IS the worst President since at least the 1800's, but he DID give 10 large to help the tsunami victims...so...he's okay in our book!"
 
2005-01-05 05:41:27 PM
He coughs $10k. Well done.

Question:

How much taxpayer money will travel and security for Jeb and Colin's visit add up to?
 
2005-01-05 05:41:38 PM
Weaver95

I've got a secret for you. Bush isn't making most of his money from his salary. He and his family are earning massive perks and kickbacks.

Did you reach this conclusion before or after you started on your new medication?


Wow, you actually agree that massive perks and kickbacks are a bad thing? I'm so impressed, Weaver95, you've actually shown a semblence of morality. Now, let's make it concrete. Are you familiar with James A. Baker III?
 
2005-01-05 05:42:27 PM
"he should donate his inauguration funds"

Great idea, except that all that funding is probably tied up in contracted services. To yank it now would probably put some folks out of business and generate lots of lawyerin'.
 
2005-01-05 05:42:45 PM
Didn't FDR cancel inaugural ceremonies during WW2 in respect for the servicemen over in Europe and the Pacific?

I think Bush should do the same, even for just the War in Iraq, but also for the Tsunami.
 
2005-01-05 05:43:18 PM
Wow, you actually agree that massive perks and kickbacks are a bad thing?

You're off the sanity juice tonight, aren't you?
 
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