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(IOL.co.za)   Man runs successful business turning ordinary living rooms into fully-stocked pubs   (iol.co.za) divider line 57
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2005-01-02 07:03:00 PM  
Oh hey, check it out, the article is a reprting from Ananova, I'm sure it is fully 100% trustworthy.
 
2005-01-02 07:58:08 PM  
Way to sneak an ananova link past the powers that be.
Pity the article sucks .
 
2005-01-02 08:18:31 PM  
Wow, this sounds like a revolutionary... something..

Installing bars... Any high-school dropout can do that.
 
2005-01-02 09:20:17 PM  
I wouldnt mind a bar that came fully staffed by hot waitresses :P

:drool:
 
2005-01-02 09:48:26 PM  
Hackzor: I wouldnt mind a bar that came fully staffed by hot waitresses

Dude, you'd have to feed them and bathe them and whatnot. That could be a serious pai....

No, you are right.
 
2005-01-02 11:51:54 PM  
405 Error: Excessive Chilean greenlights.
 
2005-01-02 11:53:00 PM  
??
 
2005-01-02 11:56:03 PM  
Hennings told Las Ultimas Noticias: "The idea is for the owner of the house to relax and enjoy, he doesn't have to worry about anything when he calls us."

Of course you dont have to worry, you are too drunk to give a fark!
 
2005-01-02 11:56:36 PM  
Holy Sh`t holy sh`t i want one!
 
2005-01-02 11:58:38 PM  
Worst Article of 2005 Nominee

this article just got off the short bus for sure...
 
2005-01-02 11:59:22 PM  
I don't like to repeat things, but...


worthless without pics.
 
2005-01-03 12:01:12 AM  
In college, I turned a fully stocked pub into my living room.

/Didn't RTFA
 
2005-01-03 12:07:06 AM  
The whole point of having a fully-stocked pub is to get to the point where you don't care if you have a fully-stocked pub. I guess I don't get it.
 
2005-01-03 12:13:29 AM  
How does this even count as an article? I'm gonna become a journalist now.
 
2005-01-03 12:13:37 AM  
Yup, most worthless article ever. I was hoping for cool pics of basements he turned into bars or whatnot, but...
 
2005-01-03 12:16:12 AM  
That link had such potential...but there was no real article. We should write our own. Anyone with pics? I want a home bar..and a pool, complete with pool boy.
 
2005-01-03 12:16:15 AM  
It's not often that the article is less informative than the headline... and this is almost one of those times.
 
2005-01-03 12:18:07 AM  

Great, does this mean that now in my house, some very drunk, 5', 40-something year old guy will be blocking my bathroom door, while asking me, "Hey man, why're yellink at meeeeeeee !?!?!"


/Happened to me on New Year's Eve. 'Cept the dude wasn't blocking my bathroom door, I mean the door of the bar down the street.

 
2005-01-03 12:19:48 AM  
This is proof.. Beer does make you stupid beyond the initial period of drunkeness.

Perhaps the crowd here hasn't turned 21 yet and just overly excited about anything booze related?
 
2005-01-03 12:22:51 AM  
I thought this was a pretty neat home bar Home Bar
 
2005-01-03 12:25:02 AM  
Should have appended headline with "... for a night."

Kinda like renting one of those inflatable castles for your kid's birthday and saying it transforms your back yard into Disneyland.
 
2005-01-03 12:25:33 AM  
Wake Drew when he does a server room makeover...
 
2005-01-03 12:40:48 AM  
One thing which has mocked me my entire life is my concept of "Central Beer". I would like to mount a tap in key places throughout my house (kitchen, living room, garage, bedroom, bathroom) and have it fed off a single keg(s). In concept its pretty simple, just requires a ton of tubing to bring the beer where you want it to go, and probably a keg or two's worth of beer in the lines to keep it pressurized.

Problem is though how do you chill the lines? Since many of the tubes might sit idle for days at a time, just good insulation won't cut it. It would be cost and space prohibitive to install any type of active refrigeration system the entire length of the pull as well.

Running a dry system where you just have one pint pushed down the line on demand via co2/nitrogen whatever was a thought, but you would be talking some serious pressure to make sure it all got through, and I imagine the result would be a whole lot of head and not much beer at the other end.

I've also given some thought to various instant chill options on the other end, and just running the beer through warm. That opened up a whole can of worms though as to what it would do to the taste of the beer.

I know there are lots of farkers out there that are pretty damn smart, so hopefully one of you has an answer to my problem.
 
2005-01-03 12:41:36 AM  
que informative!!!
 
2005-01-03 12:51:44 AM  
LineNoise

Just pretend your British and drink it warm.

mmm...mmm..warm Bud Light
 
2005-01-03 12:56:54 AM  
LineNoise

Have all the lines come back to the central location, so beer is constantly circulating, at the tap points, have a vavle of sorts, so you open it and the beer comes through, powered by the pump.

Main flaw would be air in the system, and that the first beer out would be a little warm.
 
2005-01-03 12:58:09 AM  
This is a new thing? I think MOST catering companies offer something like this -- at least I've seen it more than once before.
 
2005-01-03 01:00:39 AM  
LineNoise

Could you put some sort of refrigerated tap at the end of each hose? Surely someone makes such a thing.....well, they should anyway.
 
2005-01-03 01:02:04 AM  
Who got THIS article greenlit? Luck bastard.
 
2005-01-03 01:02:26 AM  
LineNoise: hopefully one of you has an answer to my problem.

What if you did it like a bank drive-thru? Each individual beer would be in a reusable cartridge that is fired through the line at high speeds. That way you'd just need to create a system where the cartriges are refilled on demand. It's not a trivial problem, but it's probably cheaper than having refridgeration all throughout the walls.
 
2005-01-03 01:08:59 AM  
Bop RevDru on the head, he's being silly.

The answer to the beer problem is to get up and walk to the kitchen, mini-fridge, or keg-fridge and not install wacky stuff inside your walls. It's an awesome idea though, with problems with which a man could be driven insane!
 
2005-01-03 01:16:59 AM  
RevDru

The goal was to have a tap, not a can/bottle. I suppose it would be possible to have an automated system pour me a pint into a closed container on demand, and then fire it through a tube, but you would need to ease the acceleration and deceleration so the beer didn't blow up at the other end. Just seems like there is a lot to go wrong there. I actually saw them use that same system in a way on Monster house, and the first thing that came into my mind was that they would not be opening that beer any time that night.

Having the beer run in a loop where you have, say twice as much tubing in a refrigerated section that it must pass through every few minutes to keep cold is one of the better solutions I have heard, and something that didn't occur to me. I suppose the downside is your beer would constantly be in motion and subject to continuous tempature changes. Even though it would only be a few degrees, and the motion would be fluid, the beer snob in me thinks this would have negative affects on the taste of the beer after a day or two in the loop.

I keep coming back to what Random pointed out about just chilling it when it hits the tap, which is definately do-able, but that rules out getting cold kegs, which is what most decent beers come in for fear of skunking while its in the lines.
 
2005-01-03 01:24:04 AM  
In other news, some people have found ways to make money by supplying something that people want.

/obvious tag, anyone?
 
2005-01-03 01:34:07 AM  
LineNoise,
I guess you COULD theoretically just mount the keg in a high location, and then by a manner of valves direct the beer from wherever it is to the tap of choice. But it wouldn't be instantaneous, and it seems like you've considered that too. There may just not be an economical solution to the problem.
 
2005-01-03 01:37:39 AM  
LineNoise
I think someone just invented a portable beer. It comes in 2 varieties...can...or bottle...go to the fridge ya lazee farker.

/I kid...acutally the Guiness pub draft in the can is pretty good, it has a floating widget in that contains nitrogen. Darn close the Guiness on tap.
//Slainte
 
2005-01-03 01:43:11 AM  
the fark personal ad girl looks perty
 
2005-01-03 01:51:55 AM  
 
2005-01-03 01:54:42 AM  
I think HellfireSE has a good idea. Make the trigger on each tap not only open the nozzle but also electronically control the valves so the beer gets routed to that room. The only drawbacks I can think of off the top of my head are that two people in different rooms couldn't simul-tap, and it might take a minute for the beer to flow down the pipe and out of the tap.
 
Zel
2005-01-03 01:55:43 AM  
LineNoise, the concept of centralized beverage distrobution may have never been acheived in the world! You need to work out how to accomplish this task, then become rich off the patent!
 
2005-01-03 02:01:25 AM  
Upon further reflection, it would probably be a bad idea for the beer pipes to ever be left empty for any amount of time, as you don't want dust and spiders to settle in the pipes.

Dangit, you've got me thinking about this now :)
 
2005-01-03 02:07:37 AM  
Just to add to the discussion, wouldn't you have to pump the keg as well? I'm not a drinker, so I don't know if bar set-ups need to be pumped as well.

Also, would you need to pump water or such through the piping often to keep any beer droplets left in the system from spoiling inside?

/straight edge kid talking about beer
 
2005-01-03 02:16:29 AM  
The problem is that beer can't be chilled, them warmed up, then chilled again, so any solution must be able to maintain a constant temperature.

All of this could be solved by buying a warm keg, and only chilling it right at the tap, by running an excess of tubing in a cold environment, so in the time it takes to travel the coil, it is chilled. But since anyone only sells cold kegs, this probably isn't an option.

Since refridgerating the entire run of pipe is prohibitive, any solution cannot have standing beer in the pipes. This means that you would need some sort of dry system, and you would need a way of either only sending the right amount of beer from the keg, or a way of removing and salvaging the standing beer in the pipes.

You could have a simple tube that beer would flow down, all you would need is a way to control the valve and let gravity move the beer, but this creates problems. Since there is a lag between when the beer is released and when it reaches your glass, there will always be excess beer in the line. This could be solved by reducing the lag time, but that would rule out taps at any distance. This also introduces a health issue, with the dry pipes being exposed to the aforementioned dust and spiders.

Instead of having the pipes empty, you could pump it full of water when not in use, but this would ruin any beer left standing in the pipe.

So, I come up with 3 solutions:
1. Buy a warm keg and chill at tap
2. A dry system, if you can tolerate/solve the issues above
3. Suck it up and let the beer warm up and re-cool
 
Zel
2005-01-03 02:21:31 AM  
Chilling the pipes sounds expensive, and insulation was ruled out because it would warm over time. What if we had some kind of super insulation that could keep the beer at optimal temperature for 24 hours or more after leaving the remote keg? I predict that with several inches of "SPACE-AGE NANOPLASTIC micro layers" we could make piping that keeps its contents cold for a fair price.

Gotta pay something for a system this fancy!

xRyanx, Flood?
 
2005-01-03 02:26:35 AM  
We could be over thinking this.

1. Find out how much volume is in the unrefridgerated sections of pipe. (V)
2. Find out how long it takes for the beer in the pipe to warm up to an unacceptable temperature. (T)
3. Be sure to drink that V volume of beer every T hours!
4. Profit
 
2005-01-03 03:07:20 AM  
The obvious solution is to do what they do to the chunnel: You take said beer and have it constantly circulating in pipes throughout the home. In the basement have a cooling device that sucks the heat off the beer and circulates it again. If you still don't know what I'm talking about, look up the term "wort chiller" online.
 
2005-01-03 03:12:55 AM  
The reason bars and pubs use kegs is because they sell a lot of beer. For some reason I don't think any system you come up with is going to seal well enough to keep the beer frothy over weeks and months.

Build a bar and use rubber plumbing to run hot and cold running water to your taps so you can at least use them for effect. Attach the hot water tap to a small keg stashed under the bar when you have a party.
 
2005-01-03 03:56:49 AM  
"Just pretend your British and drink it warm.

mmm...mmm..warm Bud Light"


Heh, as if we'd drink Bud Lite...
 
2005-01-03 04:10:20 AM  
Wait a second: there might be an economical way to keep the beer cold along the pipe.

If you run the beer lines adjacent to the cold water lines in your house, then put insulation around both pipes, it should keep the beer cold. The chilled water is refreshed just by you using cold water throughout the day. It is cheap, and the beer won't have to be continuously pumped in a chilling cycle.

/engineer
 
2005-01-03 04:22:21 AM  
To diagram:

 
2005-01-03 08:33:28 AM  
ok, so add a tower to your house, maybe 20 feet... run pipes from there, send your kid up there and tell him to pour a beer dwn pipe 3 :)
 
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