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(modbee)   LA city council ordered to pay attention during public hearings, were too busy talking and reading email to hear it   ( divider line
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2005-01-01 11:03:43 AM  
That sounds better than talking and farking people over.
2005-01-01 11:04:05 AM  
I said pay attention!
2005-01-01 11:07:48 AM  
Dennis Zine, a councilman who appeared to be paying attention in the videotape, said he thought the city should appeal. "It's impractical for us to sit there like students in a classroom paying attention to the professor," he said.

Well gee, I'm sorry that someone asked you to do your jobs!

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/GIS for "lazy"
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-01-01 11:08:49 AM  
Sounds like most corporate meetings since wireless ethernet became popular. One person talking, one listening, and 10 typing email or web surfing.
2005-01-01 11:14:15 AM  
How is it impractical for them to do their jobs?

I for one vote....DOUCHEBAG!!!!!!
2005-01-01 11:21:48 AM  

"It's impractical for us to sit there like students in a classroom paying attention to the professor," he said.

That's what you are paid to do, motherfarking peice of garbage. Fire the lot of them.
2005-01-01 11:23:16 AM  
Why is this asinine? If a member of a jury falls asleep during a trial the Judge can declare a mistrial.
2005-01-01 11:24:40 AM  
It's asinine that the city council would do this.
2005-01-01 11:27:03 AM  
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2005-01-01 11:40:24 AM  
There seems to be a slim part of the elected population that fails to understand what "vicious buttfarking" means. As in, "you owe me."
2005-01-01 11:56:03 AM  
"It's impractical for us to sit there like students in a classroom paying attention to the professor," he said.

Umm, isn't that, like, THEIR JOB? I mean, public meetings are for the public if I recall correctly.

That's worse than our city council, which pays attention to matters brought before it in public meetings, but you can tell, long before a person has finished speaking, that they have already made up their minds on the subject before the meeting and nothing will sway them. We have a predominate, if eccentric, Realtor/landowner/developer/rich guy who used to make a pain in the a$$ of himself over many of the stupid decisions our various council members have made over the years by filing injunctions, lawsuits, petitions and getting his views in the local paper.
2005-01-01 12:00:30 PM  
Its insane at the fortune 500 company where I work.

You go into a meeting and everyone is surfing the web and you have say their name and repeat a question to get their attention.

Anyone have an 802.11 jammer for sale yet?
2005-01-01 12:03:58 PM  
At the hearing - which also was Hawaiian Shirt Day for the council [...]

"Oh, and next Friday... is Hawaiian shirt day... so, you know, if you want to you can go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans."
- Lumbergh
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-01-01 12:09:10 PM  
Anyone have an 802.11 jammer for sale yet?

Denial of service is trivial. You could do it in software.
2005-01-01 12:09:42 PM  
If they've already decided how they're going to vote, why bother paying attention to the arguments? Just a waste of time.
2005-01-01 12:13:27 PM  
If this guy wanted to get their attention he should have waved a bunch of money in front of their faces. Works every time for politician.
2005-01-01 12:22:30 PM  

/that's California for 'ya
//'nuff said?
2005-01-01 12:52:38 PM  
Anyone have an 802.11 jammer for sale yet?

You could make a Faraday cage around the entire room. Some wire mesh behind all the walls, ceiling and floor should do the trick. This is, of course if the wireless access point is not in the room.
2005-01-01 01:24:32 PM  
You don't understand - "civil servant" is semantically equal to "civil master", as Heinlein once said. These folks honestly believe that when you bring issues to them, it should be in the manner of a supplicant. They don't have to listen to your petty concerns, as they evidently have better things to do. Typicaly, the group has already decided on how to react to certain issues by looking at the agenda, without the pesky requirement of listening to you whine about your issues.

Dennis Zine, and anyone else championing this view, needs to be removed from office for dereliction.
2005-01-01 02:01:55 PM  
I wonder how they would feel if they were on trial and the jury did that.
2005-01-01 02:35:24 PM  
I think someone should just go in there and FART a big stinky one.

They'll pay attention.
2005-01-01 03:27:35 PM  

There's always:

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2005-01-01 03:50:18 PM  
Welcome to PUBLIC SERVICE, biatcheses!!
2005-01-01 04:00:10 PM  
Dennis Zine, a councilman who appeared to be paying attention in the videotape, said he thought the city should appeal.

"It's impractical for us to sit there like students in a classroom paying attention to the professor," he said.

Too cool for school? Why dontcha stay the fark home you farking sack of dogshiat?
2005-01-01 06:22:04 PM  
sheeet, "public servants" haven't been serving us for decades, generations even. just try to pull that "you're a public servant" routine with a cop or any of the people who rule this empire called america. for the people and by the people hasn't ever been the case in my lifetime.
2005-01-01 08:31:45 PM  
videotaped the June 13, 2003, public hearing because he believed he would get little attention from the council.

You know the only thing that is going to come of this whole thing is to make video taping public hearings illegal.
2005-01-02 01:40:58 AM  
Our city meetings are televised and taped, so the stuffed shirts have to go through the motions of hearing people out. However, you can certainly tell when they don't like a speaker.
One thing that was brought up -- this being a seaside town, was renourishing the beach.

Basically that means hauling in dirt to rebuild what the sea has washed away so the houses and hotels built right on the shore will not fall into the ocean.

Naturally, the rich beach folks want the city to pay for it and the average Joe in the city and county, who has found very little public beach left to visit due to development, wants the rich to foot the bill. One guy, who looked like an aging surfer and talked like one, got up and expertly pointed out why pumping sand from the ocean between the reef and the shore would not only damage the ecology of the area but pointed out that this would be a never ending process.

Basically, all of the construction has formed artificial cliffs on the shore and what do you find at the base of an ocean cliff? Nothing. No beach.

However, you could tell from the council members attitudes and expressions that they had already decided on pumping and having the city pay for it, which is what they did.
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