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2004-12-31 12:47:03 PM
Finally, an international pissing contest that will actually have some good results.
 
2004-12-31 12:51:09 PM
Yeah baby! Suck on our American cock! It's the farkin' biggest, and never forget it!
 
2004-12-31 12:51:45 PM
say good bye to the last of the social security money
everyone knows that war is far too important to divert any funds from
 
2004-12-31 12:53:29 PM
McBatt: Finally, an international pissing contest that will actually have some good results.

Unfortunately, when it comes to bureaucratic pissing contests - 10x as much money does not equal 10x as much help for those poor people.
 
2004-12-31 12:53:46 PM
badassredskin: everyone knows that war is far too important to divert any funds from

Remember that every time they find a new mass grave (usually about one per week it seems).
 
2004-12-31 12:54:36 PM
you mean the mass graves from the 80's??

whoopdefrickendo
 
2004-12-31 12:57:11 PM
g'job. keep it coming.
 
2004-12-31 01:02:56 PM
Why do we need to help more than anybody else? I dont get it, they dont like the US involvment, but now its YOU ARENT HELPING US
 
2004-12-31 01:08:04 PM
SeekerRex:

Why do we need to help more than anybody else? I dont get it, they dont like the US involvment, but now its YOU ARENT HELPING US


Because we are taking a higher moral ground.
 
2004-12-31 01:08:26 PM
SeekerRex, they dont like the US involvment
That's a little vague, don't you think?

/good move by the US
 
2004-12-31 01:10:34 PM
$350 million for tsunami victims

Where in our budget is that money coming from? I can't find any information.
 
2004-12-31 01:10:39 PM
Don't know if it's been said yet, but this area of the world is largely Muslim. I wonder how that plays on either side.
 
2004-12-31 01:14:55 PM
That's more like it. Good call. Better late than never.

Now play nice with other relief organizations so efforts aren't unneccessarily duplicated.
 
2004-12-31 01:16:02 PM
i know it is needed but really with all the groups etc. donating couldn't part of that money have been used here for health insurance, schools or something? where the hell is the money when we need it at home?
 
2004-12-31 01:17:41 PM
2004-12-31 01:10:34 PM little miss
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Where in our budget is that money coming from? I can't find any information.


Unfortunately, it will most likely come from increasing the debt.

I say unfortunately because I would like to see the money come right out of the Pentagon. I want to spend my taxes on stuff like this.

I don't want to buy another GD aircraft carrier or another damn submarine or another useless $2Billion stealth bomber or another boondoggle missle defense debacle.

I would far rather spend my taxes on HUMAN welfare than the vast corporate welfare that is Defense spending.

[I am now on such a high soapbox that I need a ladder to climb down from it.]
 
2004-12-31 01:18:47 PM
India loves us. Pakistahn has a some that Don't like us. My underwear was made in Sri Lanka. They love us.

I don't mind giving of money but to commit manpower is a stretch. Our fighting few are taxed as it is.
 
2004-12-31 01:20:41 PM
We're already the world's police, do have to be the fire department too?
 
2004-12-31 01:21:20 PM
Veni Vidi Vici:

Don't know if it's been said yet, but this area of the world is largely Muslim. I wonder how that plays on either side.

Indonesia is the only predominantly Muslim country hit by the Tsunami. (Although Bangladesh is an Islamic country, they had few casualties), and their brand of Islam is different than the Islam of the middle east, so I'm not completely sure if I understand your point.

The bulk of the remaining countries, ie: India, Sri Lanka, and Thailand are predominantly Hindu and Buddhist.

/not flaming, just trying to understand.
 
2004-12-31 01:23:29 PM
That's more like it. Good call. Better late than never.

It's wonderful - in theory. Too bad so much aid gets diverted/stolen/misplaced....

$350 million is a lot of money.

I haven't kept up with all the news in Iraq & Afghanistan lately. Does this mean we have already sent the money for all the gear that our military needs?
 
2004-12-31 01:37:36 PM
I get pissed when this type of shiat happens. It's very sad that people died but when I see people in our own country that can't afford food to eat, live on the street, and are sick, I wonder why we don't take care of our own problems. I don't mean we shouldn't help anyone else out. It's just kind of hard to see a little homeless child and parent here in the USA and know that we're sending off millions of dollars around the world whenever someone else needs it. We give way too much farking money away when we should be helping ourselves.

Do you give your hard-earned money away to anyone who needs it without buying food, clothing and healthcare for your family first?
 
2004-12-31 01:55:15 PM
z. Brannigan: I would. I can afford to skip a few meals, and that goes for just about everyone in my extended family, too. I know that as bad as things can get, chances are i won't be dead tomorrow from contaminated water. Those people need the cash far more than I need a new iPod.
Call me crazy, but as long as I can remember, I've never thought about these sort of things in terms of countries and borders. They're human beings, and in a very bad situation right now, one far worse than I can imagine being in. I'm glad to help any way I can.
 
2004-12-31 02:17:41 PM
I understand you point. What I'm saying is that there are people who need our help at home just as bad as those people over there. Tell the homeless person I saw that hasn't bathed in weeks and hasn't had a clean place to sleep for a long time. Then tell his homeless child that there is someone else who needs our help instead of them so they can't eat today. These US citizens I am referring to have been suffering for awhile. They didn't just get that way over night like these tsunami victims. I agree that we are all human beings and need help but long-term suffering in our own homeland needs to be addressed first in my opinion.
 
2004-12-31 03:01:49 PM
That's why I give money to Homeless people when I pass them. I'm only 19 and not in school, so I have a bit more disposable income than I will in a few years.
 
2004-12-31 03:43:09 PM
So if this money is coming out of my tax dollars without my permission shouldn't that mean I don't have to donate anything further?
 
2004-12-31 03:45:10 PM
With all the entitlement programs in this country...... meh.
 
2004-12-31 03:45:17 PM
$350 million is still a far cry from the amount that has been spent on the needless war in Iraq.
 
2004-12-31 03:45:27 PM
$350 Million...

pfft...we spend 14 times that a month in Iraq!


$5 Billion in US taxpayer dollars going down the drain every month so that Iraqis can have "free" elections. Hooray!
 
2004-12-31 03:45:56 PM
I think the first time we told them we would send aid we forgot a zero. That will teach them to have Bush write the check.

/It is good that we gave more money
//Not a flame
///Maybe just lame
 
2004-12-31 03:46:10 PM
How much is Bushies inagaural party??
 
2004-12-31 03:46:12 PM
good
 
2004-12-31 03:46:21 PM
...which, coupled with all the private donations from the USA means that we will, in total, give as much as the rest of the world combined. And what will be the result?:

The rest of the world will still complain that our giving via government-to-government direct aid is still low on a per-capita basis.
 
2004-12-31 03:46:43 PM
Ah yes, everybody loves America when they need her help.
 
2004-12-31 03:48:00 PM
Falser: So if this money is coming out of my tax dollars without my permission shouldn't that mean I don't have to donate anything further?


No. If you have 20 bucks lying around, donate that. or more. This comes to a about a dollar for an average american. Also, since it is your democraticly elected government doing the taxing, it counts as permission. Don't like taxes, move to antarctica
 
2004-12-31 03:49:05 PM
geosprint: How much is Bushies inagaural party??


less than clinton's was.
 
2004-12-31 03:49:19 PM
They're just trying to one-up Canada. We increased our original miserly contribution ten-fold, putting it above the States' orginal miserly contribution, so they had to respond in kind.
 
2004-12-31 03:49:49 PM
I wonder if the story about Bush's inauguration costing $50 mil vs $35 mil to the tsunami relief is legit.
And there are quite a few domestic problems that can use an instant $350 mil windfall, folks!
 
2004-12-31 03:50:06 PM
SeekerRex

Why do we need to help more than anybody else?

Because we can. With power comes responsibility. I'm not saying we "owe" anyone anything, but giving to those who need is both morally correct and pragmatic. People who receive our help are much less likely to be recruited by our enemies.

Z. Brannigan
You have a good point, but I don't accept the dichotomy. We do not need to choose between helping our own and helping others. We may need to choose between helping anyone and our current economic strategy however. If we get our financial house in order (e.g. no more corporate welfare or bailouts, stop cutting taxes while increasing spending, etc.), we could easily afford both.
 
2004-12-31 03:50:16 PM
Thank god. It's about frickin' time. $350,000,000 is still a pittance, relative to what we're spending on Iraq, but it's a damn sight better than before.
 
2004-12-31 03:50:39 PM
too2ez:

I don't want to buy another GD aircraft carrier or another damn submarine or another useless $2Billion stealth bomber or another boondoggle missle defense debacle.


Well, in the last few days, news reports have said the Pentagon is seriously considering retiring one aircarft carrier and reducing by half the number of hundred million dollar F-22 Raptors to be built.
 
2004-12-31 03:51:22 PM
WoodyHayes
Ah yes, everybody loves America when they need her help.

Not everybody; even the people who are getting help from the U.S. complain that it's not enough. It'll never be enough.
 
2004-12-31 03:51:36 PM
There's still a lot more opportunity for the homeless that live in America than for those abroad. I'm not sure about elsewhere, but in Cbus we seem to have a bunch of soup kitchens, shelters, that sort of thing. I'm really glad we're stepping up our aid abroad, is hard to imagine the emotional destruction, not just the physical.

If you really want more government programs to aid homeless people, write a whole ton of letters to your congressman/lady, and vote accordingly to those who support that. Otherwise you may just donate to a local shelter, help at food drives, etc. Or complain on the internet, y'know, whatever floats your boat.
 
2004-12-31 03:51:56 PM
Z.Brannigan, I totally agree.
 
2004-12-31 03:52:19 PM
falser
So if this money is coming out of my tax dollars without my permission shouldn't that mean I don't have to donate anything further?


That's correct. All the American bloggers can take down those donation links, Uncle Sam is picking up the tab on this one.

 
2004-12-31 03:52:31 PM
Dear Farkers, who cares what the motivation was; this aid money was much needed. It is about the tragedy, not your skepticism (regardless of its accuracy.)

Now flame on you glorious bastards, flame on.
 
2004-12-31 03:52:47 PM
FloydA
With power comes responsibility.



Anyone? Yes? No?
 
2004-12-31 03:53:10 PM
2004-12-31 03:50:39 PM helix400 [TotalFark]
Well, in the last few days, news reports have said the Pentagon is seriously considering retiring one aircarft carrier and reducing by half the number of hundred million dollar F-22 Raptors to be built.

That's good news. The aircraft carriers they're retiring are old, difficult to maintain, and no longer compare to modern carriers. And the F-22 Raptor was a piece of shiat to begin with, if I remember correctly. I don't mind my tax dollars being spent on defense, as long as what they're spent on actually works.
 
2004-12-31 03:53:16 PM
Why did I know before I opened this link that now that the US government has applied more relief, people will complain that it's too much.

/Damned if you da, damned if you don't.
 
2004-12-31 03:53:38 PM
Does the government consult indigenous Americans any more?
 
2004-12-31 03:53:58 PM
Here's an idea: If you do not want to give anything, don't. But please, enough with the rationalizing your selfishness and complaining about how we (the USA) are hated.

Everything that happens is not about you and your politics.

/stfualready
 
2004-12-31 03:54:27 PM
For once can people leave their political beliefs at home and just recognize that we as a country can actually do some good in the world.... on a side note what have other countries pledged?
 
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