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(AP)   Lawyers told to use more visuals and sound bites to keep younger jurors interested. Matlock surrenders   ( divider line
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2004-12-31 08:45:12 AM  
I weep for the future.

Maybe trial transcripts should be sent to jurors via txt messages on their phones?!
2004-12-31 08:45:22 AM  
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2004-12-31 08:45:25 AM  
Farkin A. the first time I registered to vote, I got called in to jury duty within 3 months
2004-12-31 08:45:31 AM  
So they pick you from voter registration? I'll have to remember that..
2004-12-31 08:46:55 AM  
many states pick jury from voter registration
2004-12-31 08:50:02 AM  
You think they would invite Barney into the court room? He's great with visuals!
2004-12-31 08:52:11 AM  
Well jury duty is full of the people not smart enough to get out of it so of course they are going to have to dumb it down a little. Where is the obvious tag?
2004-12-31 08:53:01 AM  
So jurors don't carefully consider the facts and come to a balanced conclusion based on whether the evidence proves guilt beyond reasonable doubt or not, but instead condemn based on whether the guy "looks shifty, I bet he did it, no smoke without fire"?

Well I never!

I think Scott Peterson would have a good appeal case based on the "f*cking morons" defence. No argument, no complicated analysis of whether legal procedure was followed, just "your honour, my jury were a bunch of complete f*cking morons, and I can call expert witnesses from the University of Iowa to support this."
2004-12-31 08:54:06 AM  
Jury pools are usually selected from voter registration rolls, driver license lists, or both.

The underlying premise of this article is essentially wrong. The trend toward using more demonstrative evidence and using lots of visuals, including Powerpoint (which is a dated and passe' format) and other computer driven media, is not new. It has way more to do with the proven fact that people remember more of what they see than what they hear (regardless of their age) than it does with the age of the jurors.
2004-12-31 08:55:11 AM  
Why does everyone try to get out of Jury Duty? I'm 36 and all my adult life I've waited for the day I can serve on a jury! It has yet to happen. 'course, where I live NOTHING happens... Clsest I came was witnessing a drunk driver plow into a cop's wife's car about 13 years ago. Had to testify in court.

"Tell the judge you'd make a GREAT juror because you can spot guilty people (*snap*) just like that!!"
2004-12-31 08:58:57 AM  
I'm good at spotting bad people, unless they spot me first and hit me with eggs, like this mean kid, but he stopped that after I flushed his head in a toilet, so he didn't have to go to jail, and I didn't have to serve on a jury!
2004-12-31 08:59:12 AM  
I thought I was going to hate jury duty. Actualy, it was an interesting experiance. Actualy seeing what really happens was enlightening
2004-12-31 09:03:28 AM  
Article too long for my attention span. I looked at the pretty pictures for awhile, though. Then I didn't know what it was all about, so I just left.
2004-12-31 09:05:03 AM  
i cant wait till i get jury duty.
id proboly wear an eye patch then swap it to the other eye every recess.
2004-12-31 09:07:33 AM  
Actually not a bad idea. Last time I was on jury duty they took a week to give me one hour's worth of information. It could have easily been presented more succinctly using PP slides or handouts or something.

Maybe with something to read or to watch I would have something to do besides doodle in that stupid notebook.
2004-12-31 09:09:12 AM  
Or while the court room is quiet, you start singing really loud. When they escort you out, you yell like a lunatic about your rights to 15 minutes of fame for great justice.
2004-12-31 09:09:15 AM  
Keep in mind, it is soley because of "visuals and sound bites" that we got four more years of W.

(Bush has killed more Iraqis than the Tsunami, why is that the sound bite we are hearing?)

For the record, I would rather the american people and corperations reach into their pockets to support the victims of the recent disaster, the gov'ment cannot afford it after the tax cuts for the rich.

God Bless America!
2004-12-31 09:10:15 AM  
Maybe they could make their closing arguments in rap form.
2004-12-31 09:12:27 AM  
Ladies and gentleman of the jury, as you can see in this graphic, Mr. Pacman is shown here eating dots without paying for them. When the officers Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde attempt to place him under arrest, he first tries elude them, then injests what appears to be a controlled substance -- probably PCP -- and attacks them.

Fortunately, as soon as the officers stopped turning blue they were able to open a can of whoop-ass -- er, capture the suspect and bring him into custody.
2004-12-31 09:12:32 AM  
Maybe they could make their closing arguments in rap form.

no one deserves that, no one
2004-12-31 09:12:45 AM  

The tsunamis didn't kill any Iraqis (unless they were on vacation).
2004-12-31 09:19:00 AM  
They should use the law and order sound.
2004-12-31 09:23:56 AM  
Holy cow! That's a long headline. How can I be expected to read that whole thing. I lost interest before it was half over. And two sentences? Forget it!
2004-12-31 09:24:21 AM  
I have served on several jury and a grand jury. The grand jury was a farce, as it was simply a rubber stamp for whomever the DA wanted to go after, and a white wash for his political buds.

I have since brushed up on the legal procedures in Texas, and God help them if I am ever on another grand jury. I'm going to open up investigations of so many things they'll have to escort me in and out in body armor.
2004-12-31 09:33:02 AM  

The tsunamis didn't kill any Iraqis (unless they were on vacation).

Neither has Bush technically killed any Iraqis (unless they ... nevermind).

\I don't what my point is. I also don't what the point of saying Bush killing more Iraqis than the Tsunami is.
2004-12-31 09:33:35 AM  
I wouldn't mind if all trial lawyers were hot chicks....

and topless

and had to wrestle all other chick lawyers in pudding.
2004-12-31 09:34:45 AM  
Lawyers told to use more visuals and sound bites to keep younger jurors interested. Matlock surrenders

Also, funny headlines, boobies and photoshop contests. And, sometimes audioedit contests?
2004-12-31 09:47:44 AM  
i gladly served jury duty once. i would do it again!
/got paid and sent home by 9:30am
//work made up the difference
/// like being on vacation
2004-12-31 09:54:09 AM  
...such as digital accident reconstruction when arguing a case. this may work but let's hope the insurance company is paying for it. of course if the insurance company in question is like an HMO it won't pay in YOUR case therefore causing you to lose.

the last case i sat on the only visual aid needed was a picture of a donkey, an equal sign and the word plaintiff.
2004-12-31 10:04:19 AM  
This thread is useless without pictures!!

(Did someone else say that? If so, I missed it.)
2004-12-31 10:06:21 AM  
Why do people hate going to jury duty? I've not been called yet and rather eagerly await to do my civic duty.
2004-12-31 10:16:25 AM  
I never understood why everyone always wants to get out of jury duty. Personally, I think it would be a fascinating glimpse into the judicial system. And yes, I'm not deluding myself, much of it would be terribly boring. Then again, I'm not sure I would want someone on my jury that would use any conceivable means to avoid it. Been called up three times, only made it into the courtroom once.
2004-12-31 10:25:11 AM  
"fascinating glimpse into the judicial system"

Bzzt. Wrong. The average person is, no offense, a mouth-breathing idiot. Lawyers all know this, both sides, and appeal to emotion and faulty logic. Jury duty is being locked in a room with ten or eleven idiots, trying to explain to them that just because the baby was really really pretty and the husband cries whenever you ask him a question doesn't mean that the fact that there is no freaking evidence whatsoever is thrown out. You, and the on-average one other person that is with you that can understand things, will pull your hair out at trying to say "LOOK, FOOL, THEY THREW OUT THAT TESTIMONY, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION" when the fat soccer mom goes "But she was soo sad, and the lawyer said the husband DIDN'T LOVE HER waaaaaa"

Next time you are on jury duty, when you are asked questions, do your best to sound smart and well-informed in both logic and the law. (Not in a stuck up way, but just "you will like me on your jury, because I have a brain". BOTH sides will trip over themselves in getting rid of you. I am loathe to ever go in front of a jury, because I have personal experience - my 'peers' are idiots.
2004-12-31 10:27:01 AM  
My peers are brainless. :(
2004-12-31 10:53:11 AM  
I want a "jury of my peers" to be defined more strictly. If I'm subject to a jury trial, I want my jurors to be of the same age, race, IQ, religious orientation, sexual preference, and work history. But especially IQ.
2004-12-31 11:02:19 AM  
I do not mind jury duty, although it gets really frustrating when I try to have intelligent conversations about the case at hand.

FTR, juries are not obligated to heed the letter of the law (or, in fact, to heed the law at all) when making a decision. They can (and often do) release someone who obviously broke the law, if they feel there is insufficient reason to jail said person for the offense.

I just like the fact that this link (visual aids) appears right below the "celebrity underwear" thread on the main Fark page.
2004-12-31 11:05:07 AM  

That is true, unless one of the attorneys knows that the case really is iron-clad.

Of course, you can also get removed from most juries by saying, "I can tell if someone is guilty on sight."
2004-12-31 11:05:49 AM  

I'll weep for the future when I'm finished weeping for the present, if I have any tears left...
2004-12-31 11:08:51 AM  
Oddly enough, I did not expect to be picked and in fact thought that I was all but out the door. But both sides were very keen on me for some reason. I beleive that it was just that I had no background in Real Estate (real estate dispute) more than anything. That and most of the rest of the pool was eliminated. The best part was the woman who wnated nothing to do with jury duty, tried her damndest to show bias, and they HAD to have her.
2004-12-31 11:13:13 AM  
I solemly swear that if I am ever called to jury duty, I will not be afraid to hang the jury if that is necessary to promote justice.
2004-12-31 11:21:47 AM  
If you're anything like me, all you have to do to get out of jury duty is tell them your political and philosophical views. The 'system' is set up to specifically select a group of uniform imbeciles.
2004-12-31 11:40:07 AM  
I'm told that having a PhD almost always gets you eliminated (no smart, thorough people, no sir!). The one time I was called up I was eliminated, so that's one data point in support.
2004-12-31 11:43:37 AM  
(Bush has killed more Iraqis than the Tsunami, why is that the sound bite we are hearing?)


Now how did we get from a nice story about juries or something to Iraq?

Also did the Tsunami make it to Iraq? I have not heard that on the news.... Fox and CNN must be covering this up! Fark them.
2004-12-31 12:05:57 PM  
are their seriously that many stupid people? God i never want to be tried by a jury.
2004-12-31 12:47:42 PM  
The d3f3nd@nt is h@xx0red, LOL!
2004-12-31 01:31:00 PM  

are their seriously that many stupid people?

Looks like there are.
2004-12-31 01:31:25 PM  
..and quick random action. They like that.
2004-12-31 02:13:29 PM  
This is just sad.
2004-12-31 04:44:59 PM  
My fiance does this for a living. He is usually hired by plaintiffs attorney's looking for a windfall, or by the big corporate firms that can afford him. He has a law degree, and charges as much as a practicing attorney for his services.

It's not so much about dumbing things down for stupid juries, he does just as many bench trials as he does jury trials. By hiring him, the evidence presentation is streamlined and efficient. Documents are available at the touch of a button, and evidence is quickly reveiwed by all parties.
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