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2004-12-30 06:41:57 PM  
un-farking-beleivable
 
2004-12-30 06:43:45 PM  
spinnster,
that picture is incredible. Is it real?
 
2004-12-30 06:45:02 PM  
sorry. binnster
 
2004-12-30 06:45:39 PM  
Freeloader: Sometimes I don't always type correctly what my mind is trying to think.

That's okay. I'm pounding beers like they are going out of style over here. I just couldn't understand the idea of "These children are dying becuase they are born into horrible situations where many times it's the fault of the parents."

It sounded like you were blaming children for being born or something. I wasn't trying to engage you.
 
2004-12-30 06:55:38 PM  
Here are more videos - not sure if they were posted earlier. All direct from www.ogrish.com (VERY NSFW site)

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2004/december/ogrish-dot-com-tidal_wave_action. wmv
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2004/december/ogrish-dot-com-tidal_wave_afterma th.wmv
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2004/december/ogrish-dot-com-tsunami_wave_comin g.wmv

For some reason, linking them only directed you to the main page - sorry. Again, NSFW.

(I can't tell, are they laughing or crying in the last video?)
 
2004-12-30 06:58:30 PM  
That pic is of the gap between two of the waves. I have the pic of the drawback before the first wave as my desktop. It's the same image, but the water isn't churned up yet. Just the sea with normal shorebreak, way way out from where it's supposed to be.

Waiting, like a drawn fist.

digitalglobe.com is the source for these images.

Gallery is here:
http://www.digitalglobe.com/tsunami_gallery.html
 
2004-12-30 07:01:14 PM  
that "Tsunami wave coming" one shows a nice contrast. at first they're oooh-ing and ah-ing the nice size of the waves, and giggline when it gets their feet wet. then 10 seconds later they're probably worried for their lives.
 
2004-12-30 07:04:36 PM  
studebaker hoch
Waiting, like a drawn fist.

Simile of the year - sir, I salute you (how I wish I didn't)
 
2004-12-30 07:25:42 PM  
Churnin Urn of Burnin Funk

No. Who's carrier group (Abraham Lincoln) is enroute to the area to provide support? Who's Coast Guard is already there? Who's forward elements of a Marine division is already on the ground. Do you know how much that logistical support costs? That's just the DoD assets. Need I go on?

I can't believe I have to defend my country from my countrymen.

Pray tell what are these units going to do? They are only trained to kill and bomb. Maybe they can kill the rest of the survuivors so we won't have to worry about the problem while we have our inauguration eh


Over your head
 
2004-12-30 07:35:00 PM  
strotee76

There are better sources for those around, that don't have the URL shown in the content through the whole thing.

ogrish is a nasty site. The worst images possible. My guts will calm down now, I just know it...
 
2004-12-30 07:37:01 PM  
Calvin Hobbes:

What are you talking about? All I've been doing here... all day... is urge people to give what they can. Does that not reveal a level of "human feeling?"


And I thank you for your efforts, where I was occupied by laundry and more domestic issues.

And I too am pounding beers. I wish I had a bong and some good shiat to fill it.
 
2004-12-30 07:37:55 PM  
About the water cleaning process....

** there's an aircraft carrier on its way, or already there that can produce 90,000 gallons of clean water a day. I believe I even read there's way more than one, as it's a vast area to supply to.

**they will not ship/fly in water long distance. A spokeswoman for Unicef said they need money to buy water. They will be buying it as close to the disaster as possible to lesson costs of transportation. Considering the thousands of miles of land that was hit, they'll be buying from thousands of places.

*** next item I'd like to address ***

2004-12-30 05:07:44 PM ConanTroutman


I am going to edit my earlier statement where I said I was ignoring this because it makes me feel bad and there is nothing I can do to help. Here is a more accurate statemtent.

I have been trying to ignore this because it makes me feel bad. I feel there is nothing I can do to help. Any suggestions? BESIDES GIVING MONEY

YES... have you heard of the 100th monkey.. a story of how a bunch of islands had monkey's on each. On one of the islands, one monkey accidentally dropped his potato in water before eating it; then, soon discovered it tasted better, so he showed one of his pals and they started always washing them. This was observed by scientists studying these islands. A few days later... guess what, monkeys on the other islands started washing their potatoes too! How did that knowledge get passed from island to island without a monkey going there to show them? I'll tell you, mind-over-matter.

So i'm sure i've lost alot of people by now, but the point is: if you're a religious person, pray. Pray for the survivers; pray for good will to be seen over all the earth. If you're not religious, start thinking some positive thoughts. Visually see people helping, whether it be monitary, hands on, or others just like you wanting to 'wish' good will on others.

Peace to all

/i'm not a dude either, even though i'll answer to dude with no problem; didn't care for the over generalization of the internet as a male dominant zone though! that sucked!
 
2004-12-30 07:38:31 PM  
"Consider this, that the true nature and face of God is being seen all over the world right now by the outpouring of compassion and help for strangers in need."

what a load of horseshiat
 
2004-12-30 07:43:50 PM  
aj_roller:

if you're a religious person, pray. Pray for the survivers; pray for good will to be seen over all the earth. If you're not religious, start thinking some positive thoughts. Visually see people helping, whether it be monitary, hands on, or others just like you wanting to 'wish' good will on others.


Well I'm not religious and I also don't beleive in mind over matter. I thought for sure you were telling that joke about the monkey who shoves food up his ass to measure it first.

Any other non-mystic suggestions?
 
2004-12-30 07:45:19 PM  
Dogbowl:

"Consider this, that the true nature and face of God is being seen all over the world right now by the outpouring of compassion and help for strangers in need."

what a load of horseshiat


God in itself is all of this. There is no seperate entity of God and Earth. Earth is the diety, and this is natural. I have had to quesiton my own beliefs lately, and this is one of the major reasons. Although some may not agree with me, we can all see that if there was a true christian god, He would have stopped this. Or perhaps he hated the 3rd world countries as much as the americans?
 
2004-12-30 07:47:25 PM  
ConanTroutman.... have you ever felt bad vibes off of someone, or a situation?

do you believe in a sixth sense?

if you can answer yes to either of these questions, you too could visualize some good will.
 
2004-12-30 07:48:31 PM  
?
 
2004-12-30 07:49:24 PM  
"if you're a religious person, pray. Pray for the survivers; pray for good will to be seen over all the earth.
If you're not religious, start thinking some positive thoughts."

i think that's what would happen anyway. the religious will be praying while the non-religious are busy thinking.

that's why i'm on one side of the fence, not the other
 
2004-12-30 07:52:08 PM  
aj_roller:

have you ever felt bad vibes off of someone, or a situation?

Yeah - through learned behavior and past experiences.

do you believe in a sixth sense? Is that with Bruce Willis?

Aj- you are not going to convince me with words- I am a stubborn aries Scotsman. This requires alcohol.

I threw that aries thing in there to show I have a hypocritical side too even though i'm not a christian.
 
2004-12-30 07:54:04 PM  
well CT asked how he could help other than monitary... so i tried to give him a suggestion. that's all.

I don't agree with either of the fence options, personally.

I believe God is within people, people did not cause the disaster, but they sure can help the relief.

And no, don't believe God created the universe either... sorry
 
2004-12-30 07:54:09 PM  
More news about the stingy Americans:

US cancels Ethiopia debt

Addis Ababa - The United States is to write off $72.6m debt owed by Ethiopia, following an agreement signed in Addis Ababa on Thursday between the two countries, Ethiopian News Agency (ENA) reported.

The debt cancelled will enable Ethiopia implement ongoing poverty reduction programmes, Ethiopian minister of state for finance and economic development Mulu Ketsela said during the signing ceremony, the agency said.

The US government has written off 100% of the debt Ethiopia owed to Washington, Mulu said, pointing out that the cancellation surpassed an agreement Ethiopia signed with the Paris Club creditors for 90% of debt cancellations.

"The debt cancellation will be hugely significant in Ethiopia's multi-sectoral development endeavours," ENA quoted Mulu as saying.

The United States also cancelled a $29.2m owed by Ethiopia last January.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

/hope it's not considered off-topic because much of this thread's topic is stingy America
 
2004-12-30 07:55:12 PM  
well geez CT, i'm on my second beer! dang, give me time :-)
 
2004-12-30 07:59:12 PM  
Ok sort of different subject here. Me and my wife were noticing in that big picture with all the bodies on the beach- I don't see one person face up, not that I want to... just seemed odd to me. Wouldn't some be randomly face up?

I do remember doing a "Dead man's float" in swim lessons when I was a kid.
 
2004-12-30 08:08:34 PM  
I reccommend donating to Mercicorp. They are based in Portland,oregon, where I live. They are a wonderful and highly regarded charity. I have donated to them before and donated some money for the tsumani also. I plan to donate more to them when I am able to....

www.mercycorp.org


I think thats the correct address....
 
2004-12-30 08:39:22 PM  
Tinian

No, a very small part of the thread is about stingy America. Some of it is about the tragedy of it all, rather a lot of it is about 'we gave more than you so shut the fark up' and the rest is about, er, the usual shiat we stab each other with.

/good old USofA for waiving Ethiopia's debt
//we gave more than you so STFU
///happy new year
 
2004-12-30 08:56:20 PM  
3idsoldier

that picture is incredible. Is it real?



Yup. There are more here.

Here's another showing the turbulence as the wave recedes:

 
2004-12-30 08:59:01 PM  
Anyone else watch this like that Jeopardy dude? To see how high a score they can rack up.
 
2004-12-30 09:03:33 PM  
Tinian writes: More news about the stingy Americans

Depsite the protestations of the Right Wing Nuts, the United States has not been singled out by any foreign agency as being stingy. The Western World as a whole? Yes. The United States in particular? No.

Only obviously American institutions (among those with international influence) have condemned American gifts.

Who, precisely, were you referring to in your indictment of indictments?
 
2004-12-30 09:05:38 PM  
Sometimes, it sucks to be broke. It really sucks.
Aaah well, my parents will donate.
 
2004-12-30 09:17:32 PM  
Conan

Noticed that myself. I you look about halfway up and a little to the right of center there is one. Think it has something to do with the weight of extremities <sp (Arms and legs vs. gravity) But it's all wild speculation on my part because I'm not real smart and I write in run on sentences.
 
2004-12-30 09:19:49 PM  
After viewing the photos of unknown Phuket hospital dead, I think I just hit my personal wall.

Just gave my Xmas money to Americares. All of it. My needs seem oh so very insignifcant in comparison.

Don't think I'm ever going to forget those pictures as long as I live.

/Off to weep in the corner.
 
2004-12-30 09:19:50 PM  
untrustworthy:

I'm no expert on this, but their water sources were contaminated with salt water, and I don't think there are any purifiers out there that can make the water safe for consumption cheaper than just shipping it in.


Aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln and a few of the support ships of that carrier battle group, and with the Marine division that is arriving on the scene.

cardineau: Pray tell what are these units going to do? They are only trained to kill and bomb. Maybe they can kill the rest of the survuivors so we won't have to worry about the problem while we have our inauguration eh


Over your head


I understand that you underestimate the value that these groups have when it come to supporting themselves and the civilian population. What does this have to do with the inauguration? I have been quite civil, and yet your only post serves the purpose of treating me with contempt.
 
2004-12-30 09:20:46 PM  
ConanTroutman

Ok sort of different subject here. Me and my wife were noticing in that big picture with all the bodies on the beach- I don't see one person face up, not that I want to... just seemed odd to me. Wouldn't some be randomly face up?

Consider the relative densities of the various parts of the body and the way the limbs articulate with the thorax. Hips and shoulders only bend one way, and limbs are more dense than trunk, so they tend to sink. Legs are heavier than the upper body, so they tend to sink more quickly, pulling the body "upright" (head up, feet down) and then gas bloating from decomposition pulls the trunk up towards the surface again. The body is simply more hydrodynamically stable face down, with the limbs submerged. If it's face up, disturbance will tend to turn it over. If it's face down, it tends to stay that way. (Sorry if that's rather macabre.)

AFA non-financial ways to help, you could donate blood or plasma. That will be especially valuable right now. HTH
 
2004-12-30 09:24:21 PM  
Wish FloydA's post would have gone up prior to mine.
 
2004-12-30 09:26:24 PM  
Oops, sorry SlowPockets . I don't type quite as quickly, so yours got up before I refreshed.
 
2004-12-30 09:30:28 PM  
NP, your explanation was just way better then mine.
 
2004-12-30 09:44:32 PM  
Well, I don't know if you are still watching this thread or not Ike, but in case you are: Thank you. Thank you very much.
 
2004-12-30 09:46:50 PM  
Five million people are without food and clean water over there now. The next few days will be like a second tsunami hitting them unless they get help.

</wishes he could do more than he already has
 
2004-12-30 09:53:52 PM  
Thanks for the link, binnster.
 
2004-12-30 09:55:28 PM  
i think that's what would happen anyway. the religious will be praying while the non-religious are busy thinking.

that's why i'm on one side of the fence, not the other


FYI. THe most donated money comes from churches and other religious institutions.

Much of the collected sunday mornings and sent of to various non religious organizations.

Check figures on philanthrophy.

I notice all the non religious types are blaming God. Sorta funny.

/not religions
//took class on non profits
 
2004-12-30 10:15:00 PM  
Most of us are very fortunate people. Don't forget that when you're in your nice warm house tonight laying in your comfortable bed. Much of the world doesn't have the luxuries that you do. You aren't entitled to these things, you just happened to be born in the right place at the right time. Most of the people here seem to realize this, however there's always a few who seem to need a lesson in compassion.
 
2004-12-30 10:18:12 PM  
I just made it back the other night to Bangkok after being stuck in Sri Lanka when the wave hit. And I was in Tangalle, a south eastern beach city. The distruction and devistation is truely mind boggling, even for those of us that are here and witnessed it.
 
2004-12-30 10:19:46 PM  
http://www.blaat.co.uk/Numb1/sa/ruumiita4ft.jpg
crazy shiat
 
2004-12-30 10:43:08 PM  
Andyxc:

We spend somewhere around 130 BILLION on Iraq (I think that's approximately the figure on factcheck.org near the election), a country where they don't want us or our "Help", and now when a region of the world is truely in need of some money and assistance, we send 35 million???? I feel suddenly and deeply ashamed of my goverment.

Congress isn't in session guys. The White House can only shell out cash that it has on hand...they need approval to get more funds. The Congress controls the purse and they'll be in session in a few days...at which point more money will be given.
 
2004-12-30 10:46:32 PM  
Some generous corporate donations:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/041230/tsunami_corporate_giving_8.html
 
2004-12-30 10:53:39 PM  
"Its gods way of punishing the godless nation of Indonesia on Christmas."

Taken from the Boobies (first time the earthquake was reported on fark. I just quoted this to show that alot of us didn't take it seriously at the first earthquake story. (Few reported dead).

Oh Boy when it first hit Fark and there were VERY VERY few deaths alot of people didn't take it seriously.

What scares me is we knew of the earthquake and then MOST likely DIDN'T realize the effects it would have two days from then.

/no intention of starting anysort of flame anything.
 
2004-12-30 11:07:25 PM  
I donated to Doctors Without Borders more than I was expecting to. My next car will be considerably less nice than I wanted it to be, but I'm hoping some lives over in Asia will be saved.
 
2004-12-30 11:22:42 PM  
bmihura
I am being quite sincere in saying "thank you". As I drive around, comfortable and complacent, I will look at that old Toyota or WV or whatever that just cut me off and as I start to think "that @$$ in the beater.." I will remember "that might be bmihura who gave when it was needed". Then I'll cry a little, like I'm doing now. If I was religious, I'd say God bless you. Because I don't have the right to say that, I'll just add you to my list of good people. Thank you.
 
2004-12-30 11:24:50 PM  
who wants some cheap beachfront property?
 
2004-12-30 11:35:40 PM  
SlowPockets

NP, your explanation was just way better than mine.

I crib from my lecture notes so it's not really a fair comparisson (I teach classes about this stuff); yours said the same thing as mine, only more concisely and was first. (You're on my list if you ever decide to visit the northwest. Slan.)
 
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