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2004-12-30 11:35:45 AM  
macabre,
Man, reading your bio is freaky dude. You are too angry and too many different people.
 
2004-12-30 11:36:20 AM  
There's an ingore list? I'm putting my boss, my girlfriend, my mother and my sister on it!
 
2004-12-30 11:37:14 AM  
would be yelling about how great Allah is for killing the infidels.


I am having serious conflict with this.

my understanding is that in core islam, the only good infidel is a dead one. their goal is to make islam 100% world wide and that means either convert or die. there is no love in the moslem world for us 'infidels', truth be told.

yet we are EXPECTED to help out when ever some other country has problems.

when people have unfortunate problems, they are our brothers. yet their core belief system wants us all dead.

I really seriously doubt if a moslem nation would lift a finger to help the Great Satan if it needed help.
 
2004-12-30 11:39:40 AM  
Hey Tsunami--

don't be a quitter. Anthrax eventually moved on after their name-ordeal.

Now if your name was "Thai-Die Tsunami"... well, you'd need a change
 
2004-12-30 11:40:33 AM  
DaShredda
These people are our enemy.
For every post I see about donating, I'm buying a pair of Nikes.


Quick, everybody donate so we can bankrupt this asshole!
 
2004-12-30 11:40:34 AM  
NUKE THE SEA!!!
 
2004-12-30 11:41:04 AM  
at80eighty

I'm not baiting you into an argument. I agree with you in that there doesn't exist the trend in the region to warrant an early warning system. However, to make the leap directly to the WTC doesn't work except as a measure to troll others into the argument.
 
2004-12-30 11:41:18 AM  
2004-12-30 11:39:26 AM longsmoke

Tell us how you really feel.
 
2004-12-30 11:41:19 AM  
This is insane:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1535&ncid=2337&e=41&u=/afp/200 41230/wl_sthasia_afp/asiaquakemaldives_041230103137
 
2004-12-30 11:42:52 AM  
Preparedness is more than just an early warning system. It's about better land use planning, infrastructure development, improvement in housing in poverty-stricken areas, improved communications, improved disaster responsiveness.

Yes, and early warning system would be good thing, but the reality is that something of this scale is going to be inescapable for the majority. How we withstand and respond is equally, if not more, important.

Having dealt with the hurricanes (and having volunteered in the cleanup from Andrew) I hope I've picked up a little wisdom.
 
2004-12-30 11:44:03 AM  
" I cant even begin to fathom the horror of this tragedy. For all those people and children to lose their lives in such an unexpected way is tragic.
This link will bring the reality up close and provide you with options to channel your contributions. May God have mercy on their souls"
http://www.tsunamihelp.blogspot.com/
 
2004-12-30 11:44:49 AM  
"In Sri Lanka, survivors told CNN they were afraid and hopeless after losing everything they owned and seeing members of the families swept out to sea."


This type of reporting really makes me mad.
 
2004-12-30 11:44:56 AM  
calleliala

"the US is giving 35 million up front. Currently, that tops the list of donations. Not only that, but we're sending people to help keep things under control. Plus, the UN get s a huge chunk of their money from the US.

Know how much the UK has given? $100,000."

Please get your facts straight. Actually, the UK has pledged 15m which is just shy of $30m. When you compare the GDPs, it does make the US look a little miserly. But whay do you expect, there isn;t as much oil waiting to be 'liberated' in that part of the world, right?

Oh, and I don't see the problem with comparing man-made disasters with natural ones. There is no difference, when you really think about it.
 
2004-12-30 11:45:12 AM  
I love the smell of a Flame war in the morning

Actualy, no I don't, it smells like shiat, and is getting worse
 
2004-12-30 11:47:19 AM  
Horrible. Just horrible. Every time I want to feel down I think of the people over in Asia. Then I just feel lucky. Very lucky.

Last night I found myself praying for the souls of the dead. That they would watch over the living.

It truly is the luck of the draw that it wasn't me or my family. Or you and your family. You never know when mother nature is going to kick your ass.

/eyes Mt St Helens.
 
2004-12-30 11:47:23 AM  
"People who hate us died in a ginat wave."

You knew all of those people? Crazy.
 
2004-12-30 11:48:23 AM  
Supermodels, kung fu movie stars, poor fisherman and peasant of all skin color

Death is democratic.
 
2004-12-30 11:48:26 AM  
Longsmoke: When writing a post telling people they are retards, it is important to spell out exactly who you are talking about. Otherwise, you come across as someone who is generalizing... which is stupid, ignorant, small minded and makes you look like a retard.

I have been dreaming about tidal waves every night this week.. The fact that it was a beautiful day outside makes it more surreal. I mean, in a hurricane tidal surge you at least have wind, rain et cetera.. seeing video of people going towards the water's edge, then turning and running when they realize what's happening is chilling to say the least.

This is going to take years to recover from.. and even then, recovery isn't quite the right word.
 
2004-12-30 11:48:54 AM  
I think its sad that some supposedly developed nations regularly participate in campaigns that kill atleast as many people as this tsunami and yet in our culture we don't consider it a tragedy. The loss of human life is not something that should ever be ignored or taken lightly least of all when it is taken by other humans.

True, of course, but as soon as a story gets a wee bit complicated folks' minds like to check out. Natural disasters are easy to understand, there's clear cause and effect.

The tangled web we weave and the lies we concoct to conceal it are an entirely different animal. Especially if it attempts to expose the larger myths "civil society" relies on for continuity...

So Iraq is "about" weapons of mass destruction, a tsunami is mass destruction. Simple.
 
2004-12-30 11:49:37 AM  
Anyone else notice how this got under
the fark radar?


Saudi Arabia:$10M
Finland: $3.4m
Kuwait: $2.1m
Netherlands: $2.6m
UAE: $2m
Ireland $1.3m
Singapore: $1.2m


Oil rich Arab nations collectively
contributing $14.1M? Oil sheiks who are some
of the wealthiest people on the planet,
and they can't come up with more than $14M?
Denmark alone came up with $15.6M initially.
Am I missing something here?
Please let me know.
 
2004-12-30 11:49:42 AM  
grateful_net: "my understanding is that in core islam, the only good infidel is a dead one. their goal is to make islam 100% world wide and that means either convert or die. there is no love in the moslem world for us 'infidels', truth be told. yet we are EXPECTED to help out when ever some other country has problems."

First of all I sinderely doubt that the core of islam is to either convert or kill infidels. I would imagine like almost all other religions the meaning is largely dependant upon how you interpret the original texts. In general the majority of muslims are very tolerant of other religions and races and are quite unhappy with the extremely distorted view of their religion. There are fundamentalist nutjobs in any religion, christianity included and to base your perspective of such a huge beleif system on a very small percentage of the beleivers actions is silly.

As for why you should help out? I think it has alot to do with being a generous, unselfish person. 'a good christian' if that's your thing.
 
2004-12-30 11:50:40 AM  
Rip

I apologized for that awhile ago.


(why can't I stop reading this thread?)
 
2004-12-30 11:51:10 AM  
skylabdown:

I have been dreaming about tidal waves every night this week.. The fact that it was a beautiful day outside makes it more surreal. I mean, in a hurricane tidal surge you at least have wind, rain et cetera.. seeing video of people going towards the water's edge, then turning and running when they realize what's happening is chilling to say the least.


That is REALLY weird.
 
2004-12-30 11:51:57 AM  
15m which is just shy of $30m..
lol

1 is just shy of 2.. but 15m is NOT just shy of 30m.
 
2004-12-30 11:52:22 AM  
DaShredda: Only if I was eaten alive by vampiric midgets.


How old are you again? Do you live in a basement? I thought you were going to play war craft.
 
2004-12-30 11:52:47 AM  
Well, to be fair, that $35 million was the U.S.'s entire budget for this this kind of thing. All of it.

On the other hand, it's December 30th. Not like there's going to be another tragedy this year that needs the money more. And we really should have siphoned off some money from a place that came in under budget, or something. I'm thinking the number the U.S. needs to hit is about $1,000 per victim, meaning $115 million at this point.
 
2004-12-30 11:53:34 AM  
The $35mill was the remaining amount that the US had budgeted. More will come, and you know it.

Don't make me defend Bush again, I don't like it.
 
2004-12-30 11:53:45 AM  
In other news, do you know how cheap a trip to these places will be next Christmas?

/planning vacation
 
2004-12-30 11:53:47 AM  
Bush is about to spend $40 million of private donations on his inauguration, and Kerry still has a whole truck full of money left over from his campaign. How nice would it be if they got together and gave all that soon-to-be-wasted money to the relief effort?

/not holding my breath
 
2004-12-30 11:54:05 AM  
monkeyrodeo-

I dont know if you think the US is being stingy but I think those countries gave about the same when it comes to the GDP??

I think-- some one else do the math for me- : )
 
2004-12-30 11:54:11 AM  
Yeah, what Gosling sed.
 
2004-12-30 11:54:50 AM  
BunnyMan_Bob:

thanks Dr. sheikah, hey i was just wondering how you make your diagnosis? you seem to love psychoanalizing pretty quikly, and over the internet too, you must be good.

Because I think that thinking that innocent children want to kill you, are your enemies, is pretty paranoid, and pretty stupid. I also think that people who are "amused by death" need to really experience death on a large scale. Maybe they won't be so amused. Thanks for trolling.
 
2004-12-30 11:55:33 AM  
your welcome
 
2004-12-30 11:55:56 AM  
MikeRaphon

However, to make the leap directly to the WTC doesn't work except as a measure to troll

refresh my memory. where did i troll exactly? then again, what's your definition of a 'troll'...you probably have your definitions all mixed up

/man, im sick of this...i'll be back...gonna go see if i can get some more clothes i can give away
 
2004-12-30 11:56:33 AM  
I see no reason why the world should look to theUS to give more aid, just because we have more money. These countries hate our foreign policy, except when it puts money in their pockets.

They made their bed, let 'em sleep in it.
 
2004-12-30 11:56:55 AM  
snoringtoad: 1 is just shy of 2.. but 15m is NOT just shy of 30m.


Pound signs don't show up on fark sometimes (wierd).

www.xe.com says...

15,000,000.00 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds = 28,823,453.58 USD
United States Dollars
 
2004-12-30 11:57:07 AM  
skylabdown: Obviously, I'm talking to all the "America!" and "they're our enemies!" people. It seems incredibly obvious to me and should be to you too, since I clearly spell out in the first three sentences who the message was intended to be for ("America, America", "how great you are because you're American", "get upset when people cheer a couple of buildings falling down"), but I guess you can't stop super-clever thinkers, such as yourself, who reuse the words of others in an attempt to look cool and witty. Wow, that's sooo amazing how you took my words and reused them, it really enchanced your non-existent point...?? Now take a few words from this post, and half of your next post is already written!
 
2004-12-30 11:57:31 AM  
2004-12-30 11:56:33 AM J.G. Longbotham

right on
 
2004-12-30 11:57:44 AM  
This was just awful, kind of humbles you and makes you appreciate what you have.
 
2004-12-30 11:58:16 AM  
...from the FarQ

Personal attacks made by anyone including name calling, threats, and any other form of directed attacks against other users will result in suspension of posting

C/mon folks. Let's stop telling each other to go die and go kill yourself. These are the same folks you've probably agreed with in previous threads on other subjects.
 
2004-12-30 11:58:20 AM  
"Ignore" is for trolls. Trolls aren't offering up a genuine opinion. They are there to provoke. They are the gadlflies of the internet. Why would I waste my time reviewing their posts when there is nothing worthwhile there to see?

There are plenty of people here whose opinions differ from mine. And there are plenty of them whom I respect, because there are real, thoughtful reasons for why they believe what they believe. Them I respect. Trolls aren't worth the effort.

"...What can be said at all can be said clearly, and what we cannot talk about we must pass over in silence."

/nods to Wittgenstein
 
2004-12-30 11:58:21 AM  
just announced: UK goverement to send 50m pounds
 
2004-12-30 11:58:22 AM  
sheikah --
"Because I think that thinking that innocent children want to kill you, are your enemies, is pretty paranoid, and pretty stupid."




Yup, beyond belief.
 
2004-12-30 11:59:11 AM  
Come on people, it doesn't matter who gives what, as long as the rich countries and people are at least giving something.

As for religion, fundamentalists are different from the common man. In Delhi I witnessed sikhs, muslims, christians etc all living happily and respecting one another. The common core belief in all religions (and in my own atheism) is to live a good life, enjoy it and treat others as you would want them to treat you.

Finally, lay of Callielala, (s)he has apologised enough now.
 
2004-12-30 12:00:03 PM  
DaShredda -

You gotta skip about every ten posts but fellow farkers have posted alot of great links - pointed out different points of view than mine that I have found interesting and enlightening.

Thats why ignore button- to ingnore the trolls... : )

Or angry boys that got no game with chicks and play games in their parents basement.
 
2004-12-30 12:00:10 PM  
Longsmoke"

"must be French Canadian"

go kick you dog again.
 
2004-12-30 12:00:23 PM  
What would the world be like if everyone born lived a full life? As it is on average 40,000 children a day die of starvation or curable disease.
 
2004-12-30 12:00:42 PM  
DaShredda

If you wouldn't mind humoring me, name some things you consider to be immoral.
 
2004-12-30 12:01:07 PM  
2004-12-30 11:39:26 AM longsmoke
100 000 beer company employees

watch it kid-o, dems fight'n words
 
2004-12-30 12:01:43 PM  
geekpunk2

Supermodels, kung fu movie stars, poor fisherman and peasant of all skin color

Death is democratic.


Superbly said. boiled to perfection.

/really off now : )
 
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