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2004-12-30 09:57:22 AM
Callielala
I wasn't having a go at you, I just don't like people kicking my country without good reason. No donations are insignificant, I think the earlier poster was merely pointing out that the scales are skued.

From the BBC; funds pledged so far:
EU $44m
US: $35m
Canada: $33m
Japan: $30m
UK: $28.9m
Australia: $27m
France: $20.4m
Denmark: $15.6m
Saudi Arabia: $10m
Norway: $6.6m
Taiwan: $5.1m
Finland: $3.4m
Kuwait: $2.1m
Netherlands: $2.6m
UAE: $2m
Ireland $1.3m
Singapore: $1.2m

Not listed here, but I tihnk Spain also pledged $25 mil. earlier today. Spain is not particulary well off as countries go.
 
2004-12-30 09:58:01 AM
luckyeddie, well I'm very happy for the EU and the UK then. Congratulations on your donation penis being as large if not larger than ours.
 
2004-12-30 09:58:06 AM
luckyeddie

I apologized for my bad data in my next post. If I could take the comment down, I would.
 
2004-12-30 09:58:15 AM
THIS JUST IN

Bill Gates donated...wait for it....$3 million dollars! Now we need a foundation to make sure he has enough to eat.
 
2004-12-30 09:58:31 AM
re: 'the band aid money (150 million I think he said) went to countries that were paying that much money a week in interest to first world countries for cold war loans.'

Is there some way I could donate to Haliburton directly, without all the redundant middlemen?
 
2004-12-30 09:59:11 AM
As for the misinformed among us who can't figure out how "some little waves" caused so much devestation... those waves were traveling at 200 km/hr.

/feel sorry for those who think "the day after tomorrow" is reality
 
2004-12-30 09:59:21 AM
ben zoa

it was a tidal wave

Actually it was a tsunami. Has nothing to do with tides.


Have you ever thought about looking at a dictionary before you criticize other people's vocabulary? Otherwise, you look like an idiot.
 
2004-12-30 10:01:02 AM
Uranus

The author is not talking about 3rd world nations donating money to the US in times of disaster. Instead, where was the UN? And why was the only relief offered to hurriance victims in the form of loans with an interest rate?

CB's suggestion to send in engineers is a good idea.



flypusher713

What an asshole. The US has the wealth and resources to help itself. The countries affected by this disaster do not.

And the Floridians who had their homes destroyed were only given loans at interest to rebuild their lives... this should not have happened.

Of course, when we have the folks at The Guardian writing articles about "callous" people intending to carry on with their vacations, it leads people to think that this is justified.


Mr_Fabulous
your ignorance is showing there.
 
CB
2004-12-30 10:01:06 AM
The Red Cross will never see another dime of my money since I saw this
 
2004-12-30 10:01:29 AM
Some data for you perusal and comparison, folks:

Estimated dead from the X-mas quake/tsunami: 115,000 as of today.

Dead from Hiroshima, Japan nuclear attack: 75,000 outright

Dead from Nagasaki, Japan nuclear attack: 73,900 outright

Both nuclear attacks DID produce later casualties due to immediate radiation poisoning and fallout effects.

If the tally from this tsunami exceeds 200,000 it will be more costly in human life than both Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.
 
2004-12-30 10:01:59 AM
Mugato
THIS JUST IN
Bill Gates donated...wait for it....$3 million dollars! Now we need a foundation to make sure he has enough to eat.


This is easily the best way to encourage rich people to donate. Give them shiat when they do, and they're sure to keep doing it.

Mow much have you given, Mugato?
 
2004-12-30 10:02:04 AM
For everyone on the "America isn't sending enough money" kick, also remember that American companies are sending multi-millions in money and supplies. America as a whole is responding.
 
2004-12-30 10:02:14 AM
bbcrackmonkey
luckyeddie, well I'm very happy for the EU and the UK then. Congratulations on your donation penis being as large if not larger than ours.

Like yourself, I don't like to see my country bad-mouthed.

Unlike yourself, I'm not being an idiot today.
 
2004-12-30 10:05:40 AM
Where are they getting these numbers from anyway?
 
2004-12-30 10:05:53 AM
I have a friend in Thailand right now and she told me that she needs me to give her the news....nobody where she is had even heard anything happened. Wow. She was scheduled to fly into Phuket in a week.
 
2004-12-30 10:06:10 AM
Steve French:

re: 'awful political trolling.'

Yes, isn't it awful when people die?
Well, some people.
Others we just ignore. Pretend they never existed.
No hypocrisy there. Nope.
Carry on...


Its awful when any people die in tragic circumstances. That doesn't give you or anyone else the right to exploit their deaths for your own political agenda. This is one of those times when politics needs to take a back seat for awhile.

When four hurricanes hit us Floridians during this past summer, the United Nations never showed up to help. Perhaps they were simply gathering their resources to help the victims of the next disaster somewhere other than on U.S. soil. Then again, maybe not, since they are now screaming for money to help the tsunami victims and going so far as to call the United States "stingy" in our response.

Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't recall anyone from the UN calling the US stingy. The asshat from the UN referred to 'Western countries'. Why has the US taken this so personally exactly?

""It is beyond me why we are so stingy. Really. Christmas time should remind many Western countries at least, how rich we have become," he said."

That the guy is an idiot is beyond question. That he should resign for attempting to politicise the situation is IMO also a given, but refer exclusively to the US he did not.
 
2004-12-30 10:06:23 AM
Phucket=fark it

Some of you, who have shown your true colors in past threads, are way over doing the phony sympathy.
 
2004-12-30 10:06:58 AM
callielala
luckyeddie

I apologized for my bad data in my next post. If I could take the comment down, I would.


I know - unfortunately I'd penned (fingered?) my glib reply before I saw yours.
 
2004-12-30 10:07:06 AM


A masked man moves to spray bodies to kill the smell at a temple in Khao Lak, north of the devastated Thai tourist resort island of Phuket. About 600 bodies are piled up there.
Photo: AFP
 
2004-12-30 10:07:31 AM
Excuse me but, yes, its a catastrophy. Its truly horrible. The loss of life in such a short time...

However, I would not be sympathetic if it were, say, the jersey shore. There would not be such a loss of life as there would be property (unless it was peak summer season..still would there be a warning?). Then there would be the business owners crying fowl and loss. Then the insurance companies and the fraud. And the home renters balking. You get the picture? And would other countries donate and send ships, food, plane, clothing, shelter, fresh water, medical supplies, lumber...? Would a country want to compensate for loss of revenues to the state of nj?

This sounds cruel but...If you want to live next to mother nature and exploit her beauty, there may be a time to pay the piper.

/Mother nature is collecting her due.
//Unfortunately, its the innocent that pay.
///History repeats...Krakatoa, Pompei, Mt St Helens,...Mt Rainer next?
 
2004-12-30 10:07:35 AM
leper, glad you got it to work. That group getting ready for a wedding.. then 30 minutes later their entire town is swallowed by fast moving water gave a sense of awe. The rest was just painful to watch.
 
2004-12-30 10:07:53 AM
DONATE PEOPLE

Anything matters!
 
2004-12-30 10:07:55 AM
I posted a few minutes ago about amazon having taken nearly 4,100,000 in donations. I looked back, not ten minutes later, and they've already gotten another 100,000. Total as of now: 4,189,445.70

Snarfangel- I hope that helps restore your faith (at least a little)?
 
2004-12-30 10:08:23 AM
Walker: I honestly don't think I could just blithely go and lay out. Vacation be damned - I'd be helping to clean up, find people, whatever.

I guess you can now understand the mentality of the people portrayed in The Beach.
 
2004-12-30 10:08:59 AM
Prof. Frink

From the CIA's World Factbook entry on Indonesia at http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/id.html

0-14 years: 29.4% (male 35,635,790; female 34,416,854)
15-64 years: 65.5% (male 78,097,767; female 78,147,909)
65 years and over: 5.1% (male 5,308,986; female 6,845,646) (2004 est.)

14 seems like a reasonable cutoff age for "children", so 1/3 is probably close to the actual ratio.
 
2004-12-30 10:09:04 AM
Blade2567
and the sheep leave the thread to give money to idiots that couldn't understand the need for a warning system in 5...4...3...2...

underdog
Blade2567
What did you say about 9/11? There was no warning system in place for airplanes flying into buildings. Should we not have given money?



EXCELLENT example underdog.

Blade = PW3ND

/as you deserve to be, u bastage
 
2004-12-30 10:09:38 AM
leper, glad you got it to work. That group getting ready for a wedding.. then 30 minutes later their entire town is swallowed by fast moving water gave a sense of awe. The rest was just painful to watch.

Yeah, I agree - saw it on the BBC last night, that wedding group shot is terrifying...
 
2004-12-30 10:10:02 AM
Crunchy Frog
Sorry to hear about your buddy. That sucks. Hope he is found alive.

FLYNAVY
I asked Redcross lady taking blood this morning why there were so many children lost & she replied seriously with tears in her eyes "because they are closer to the ground".

OK, I'm a pretty stoic guy. But that just made me tear up.
 
2004-12-30 10:10:07 AM
I rememeber after the Oklahoma City bombing, I had a person in Pittsburgh tell us that "We should just get over it and stop acting like it's a big deal" right after it happened. I thought that was the stupid and most heartless thing I'd ever heard. Then I came into this thread.

First off, this is NOT God's wrath. The world is a gigantic and complex system where things happen, both good and bad. Can't have one without the other. Just seems more slanted towards the bad recently...

I just keep thinking about my family on the beach last year.. Building sand castle's with my daughters. Thinking what I would have done if all the sudden I saw the water reseding..

I'd challenge everyone to not only donate money, but to look at your lives and ask yourself what you can do. We Americans think the money fixes everything. It doesn't. If you haven't had the experience of working in a third world country, you really should. Makes you realize that 115,000 isn't just a number, it's real people in these countries. It's brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers, sons and daughters.. Forever gone.
 
2004-12-30 10:10:25 AM
luckeyeddie, nothing wrong with wanting your country to get it's due for being good and humanitarian.

I just didn't like your "useless dollars" comment, since the decline of the dollar is seriously hurting our economy at the moment. That's why I felt the need to introduce the 'penis' metaphor.
 
2004-12-30 10:10:36 AM
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore
never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
 
2004-12-30 10:10:37 AM
Anyone else think that if this had happened a few weeks earlier, you would've told your families and friends not to expect Christmas presents this year, because the money would be going to a much better cause? How many now regret the money you spent, and the money spent on you, this holiday season, when there are so many now who need it so much more?

What lousy, lousy timing. (Not that there's any good time for something like this.)

Deeply ashamed on behalf of America for sending only $35 million in aid. Even more deeply ashamed on behalf of Christianity for idiots like that Southern Pentecostal "preacher." People like him need to read their Bible, especially the part about Simon Magus. Oh, yes, heaven forbid my congregation send money to help out victims of a disaster, just because many of them might not have been Christians (but many were - even if none of the natives were [which isn't true, as Christianity is a world-wide religion], many of the dead were tourists, and most of them were from Western [and thus largely Christian] nations!) - after all, that'd be money that wouldn't be winding up in my collection plate!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
 
2004-12-30 10:11:47 AM
The rest was just painful to watch.

Thanks for the warning - I won't watch it.

It's sad enough seeing the "statistics" rise, I don't want to see any more individuals perish.
 
2004-12-30 10:11:51 AM
leperboy

that last shot of the father holding on to his child really broke my heart. even though the numbers are mind-numbing, you can't forget something like that.
 
2004-12-30 10:12:01 AM
Canadian farkers, I would like to suggest CARE Canada. According to their FAQ, they only spend about 5 per cent of their funds on administrative costs, and they've got a summary of exactly what they're doing to help the countries most affected by the Tsunami.

Just a suggestion, if you're looking for a place to drop some pennies.
 
2004-12-30 10:12:01 AM
barjockey: WTF? Kofi Annon is on vacation too - what is your point?


He actually came back early ;)
 
2004-12-30 10:12:02 AM


A foreigner wearing a mask to protect himself from disease walks past pictures of dead tourists at Khao Lak, Thailand. Photograph: Pornchai Kittiwongsakul/AFP/Getty
 
2004-12-30 10:12:32 AM
Phuket is pronounced "Poo-Ket".
 
2004-12-30 10:12:40 AM
Folks, I believe that most Americans are far more caring, humane, and kind than a few arseholes on this thread. For you people, please visit http://tsunamihelp.blogspot.com to get latest updates as well as information on all the agencies you can donate to.

Please give what you can. Every little bit helps. We Asians have lost thousands of our brethren to this tragedy. Hundres of Thousands of families have been wrecked. A few dollars won't hurt you, but may pay for some food and water for a sick child.

If you're still not convinces, just visit http://www.waveofdestruction.org/ for pictures and videos of the destruction the tsunami caused!
 
2004-12-30 10:12:49 AM
First off, this is NOT God's wrath.

so, he takes credit for the good but dodges the bad?

its all or nuthin. if we thank him for the good, why are we not allowed to curse him for the bad?

/seems somewhat symmetrical to me
//also cancels itself out. like I said, god is imaginary and not real.
 
2004-12-30 10:12:52 AM
Swiss Colony: TV news just said Spain upped to $65 million.

I'm sure as they assess more, everyone's donation totals will be adjusted. Most likely up.
 
2004-12-30 10:13:11 AM
Canada has uped its donation to 40 million now

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/12/29/dart-tsunami041229.html
 
2004-12-30 10:13:18 AM
And aint it cool that our compassionate born-again prez has pledged almost as much money as will be spent on his grand inaugeration?
 
2004-12-30 10:13:50 AM
Re: children
"because they are closer to the ground".

Unfortunately, they are also less likely to be able to swim and have the strength to hold onto trees or climb things onto roofs...

:o(
 
2004-12-30 10:14:27 AM
spain has pledges $68 million according to CNN.

Viva Espanya!!!!!
 
2004-12-30 10:14:35 AM
Uplifting story in todays Washington Post about a U.S. Citizen who saved an entire orphanage of children from certain death when the tsunami struck. It's a really interesting article that shows all the things that had to happen in order for him to do this. It was all thanks to his exhaustion the night before which made him not remove the motor from their escape boat like he normally does every night, luck, and some would say divine intervention.
 
2004-12-30 10:15:33 AM
Blade2567

What I am saying is: There was an opportunity to have a warning system in place to prevent the massive scale of human devastation this tsunami caused.

FYI,

the region never had suffered from such an incident, in living memory... quite unlike the regions that do have such a system in place....

why, dont you build a house of reinforced titanium? the sky may...you know...fall tommorrow, or something....

/walk away u jackass...while you can
 
2004-12-30 10:15:58 AM
STOP PLATE TECTONICS NOW!!!
 
2004-12-30 10:16:14 AM
heirloom_tomato
Canadian farkers, I would like to suggest CARE Canada. According to their FAQ, they only spend about 5 per cent of their funds on administrative costs, and they've got a summary of exactly what they're doing to help the countries most affected by the Tsunami.

Sweet - thanks. I feel kinda bad about giving to the Canadian Red Cross after reading the Snopes dirt.
 
2004-12-30 10:16:52 AM
COMALLite J
I for one am using christmas/holiday money just for this. If there was not a holiday season, i dont think i would have anything to give. Just saying
 
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