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(Newsday)   Oil discovered in Cuba. Looks like the U.S. will be liberating them next   (newsday.com) divider line 270
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2004-12-25 08:31:48 PM  
I'll march right up to Castro with my Red Ryder Air Pump Rifle and demand he deliver his WMD. And if he doesn't comply, I'll shoot his eye out.
 
2004-12-25 08:31:49 PM  
Well done on the headline!
 
2004-12-25 08:38:32 PM  
That's ok, we can just set up a slant drilling operation. What's he gonna do? complain?

I love communists. You can do just about anything to them and not feel bad about it in the morning.
 
2004-12-25 08:38:57 PM  
This will mess with that whole embargo thing won't it? Heh.
 
2004-12-25 08:41:17 PM  
Weaver95

Too bad Castro and the SUNY Binghamton History Department are the only ones left.
 
2004-12-25 08:44:15 PM  
Remember what Mr. Burns did to the Springfield school?
 
2004-12-25 08:47:15 PM  
Too bad Castro and the SUNY Binghamton History Department are the only ones left.

There's a couple in Africa. Bur you're right, communism is finally becoming a rare beast. All we have left to play with is it's more numerous and sneakier cousin, socialism. It fouls it's own nest just as communism does, but it uses more perfume to cover the stench.
 
2004-12-25 08:51:09 PM  
ny hot tuna: Well done on the headline!

Thank you, maybe I'll finally get my first approved link.
 
2004-12-25 09:06:47 PM  
Good headline submitter!
 
2004-12-25 09:18:09 PM  
It is funny how there is never a 'real' communist government. Like somehow people would just voluntarily distribute wealth fairly. Some would, most wouldn't. That's why communism will never work.

We should learn the lessons from these failed governments. E.g.
-allow political dissent
-only apply regulations that increase competition or protect the environment
-do away with perks for public officials
-assume some government officials are going to be corrupt, so be constantly vigilant for the corrupt ones

We could also learn lessons from some of our biggest mistakes:
-don't spend way more money than you take in (e.g. $7.5 trillion and growing national debt)
-support freedom and democracy, rather than coddling dictators that happen to be 'on our side'
 
2004-12-25 09:22:21 PM  
There are few truly socialist governments in the world. The middle class of the United States exists essentially because of 'socialism'. Corporations don't give a shiat about you. The second they don't have to pay a minimum wage or provide medical insurance, they won't. The current direction we are heading (pretty much just encouraging large corporations to do what they will) is going to drive the standard of living of the average American down. We're already seeing the beginnings of it as the average income has dropped the past few years. The truly free market is essentially just like communism...great in theory, but it just doesn't work.

Flame on...
 
2004-12-25 09:27:58 PM  
Wow ... Blood for Oil. How original. Too bad you need years of smoking weed and being taught politics by Jon Stewart to think that its a funny headline.
 
2004-12-25 09:34:31 PM  
ChildMolestingPriest:

We should learn the lessons from these failed governments.
We could also learn lessons from some of our biggest mistakes:


Agree with you 100% and would like to add another lesson we need to learn is ...

- Having lots of millionaires and billions while millions are hungry / homeless / without proper health care / etc. is not a good way to run a country.
 
2004-12-25 09:42:37 PM  
Hmm, by this logic we should be liberating Alaska.
 
2004-12-25 10:04:47 PM  
the_gospel_of_thomas ... check.
weaver ... check.

Who are we missing?
 
2004-12-25 10:11:45 PM  
Wasn't there some ultra-right wing whack job claiming that Cuba was creating biological weapons? He is reasoning was that they were importing a bunch of medical equipment... of course none of that medical equipment could be used to actually create biological weapons... but lets not let facts get in our way right?
 
2004-12-25 10:17:31 PM  
This right wing / left wing crap is just incredibly stupid. Think rationally about each issue; if you can't see a clear choice, go with the most freedom/least regulation.

/It does make for great flamewars, however ;-)
 
2004-12-25 10:27:03 PM  
It does make for great flamewars, however

Yeah and I am bored off my tits here at the office baby sitting a server.
 
2004-12-25 10:27:43 PM  
ChildMolestingPriest: /It does make for great flamewars, however ;-)

A flamewar for Christmas! It's what I've always wanted.

(Sad thing is I'm completely serious. Fighting with strangers over the internet is som much better than fighting with family in person.)
 
2004-12-25 10:35:06 PM  
Okay, sorry to piss on the flames just as the warriors were suiting up and drawing their rifles from the armory.

I'll re-ignite the flames:

the_gospel_of_thomas, you are a right-wing fundamentalist homophobic nut job. You fap to the idea of turning the US into a theocracy.

Code_Archeologist, you are a pinko, liberal commie nutjob. You fap to the idea of turning the US into the ultimate commie welfare state.
 
2004-12-25 10:35:34 PM  
Sorry i'm late, hope every1 is enjoying Christmas..but now to Cuba:

Right wing/left wing = stupid
anyone that makes up their minds before they actually they think about an issue is an idiot - chris rock said these sentiments better, but i forgot the quote.

Liberating cuba? Fat chance, despite the government, the Cuban ppl are very smart and damn proud. They will not let the US millitary to go in their country and dictatte how they do business.......we tried that after the cuban war of independance (aka Spainish-American war) and that led to a civil war and brought about Castro

all i got for now.........this is gonna be interesting ;)
 
2004-12-25 10:44:02 PM  
ChildMolestingPriest oh... I want to respond... but I don't know. I am just not feeling it. Oh well... thanks for trying :)
 
2004-12-25 11:27:30 PM  
ChildMolestingPriest when I look up the word "Troll" your description seems to pop up. Why is that ??
 
2004-12-25 11:36:06 PM  
the_gospel_of_thomas

I'm just curious if you've ever posted anything non-political on TF.
 
2004-12-25 11:40:42 PM  
"Take this plane to Luton"
"Sorry, this plane is going to Cuba"

/Python
 
2004-12-25 11:55:24 PM  
ethernet76 Many. But you would not notice.

( I liked my non-political posts on the 'woman pays 50 thousand for her cloned cat' thread. )

If you would see someone attack something that you value, you would respond, and attempt to defend it. "US attacking Cuba to take their Oil" is funny to someone who cares less for, or hates the President. I'm sick of letting these comments go by without challenge, and I often get people upset because of it. My Bad.
 
2004-12-26 12:01:43 AM  
I'm sick of letting these comments go by without challenge, and I often get people upset because of it.

Thank goodness that you are here to protect our Fearless Leader from the slings and barbs of random Farkers. I'm sure he sleeps better at night, knowing you are diligently standing at your watch, prepared to challenge all who might slight Our Mighty One.

/bush sucks
 
2004-12-26 12:15:08 AM  
Well we know which side isn't strong on logic. The United States consumes an average of about 20 million barrels of oil a day and have 22.7 billion barrels of proved oil reserves. Cuba's cute little 100 million barrel strike isn't enough to power Michael Moore's turkey fryer let alone draw the interest of the US.

It is interesting to see the same failed arguements being perpetuated after the elections clearly showed their ineffectiveness. They'll keep me voting third-party come '08 if that is the best the Dems have and that means the Republicans will carry the day again.
 
2004-12-26 12:18:20 AM  
then we can agree to disagree, Just Ignorant. Until I read an argument about Bush policy that raises above kindergarten level, then I will match the level of discourse ... mr. "Poopy-Pants."
 
2004-12-26 12:19:48 AM  
It is interesting to see the same failed arguements being perpetuated after the elections clearly showed their ineffectiveness.

You're aware the headline is a joke, right?
 
2004-12-26 12:23:10 AM  
Until I read an argument about Bush policy that raises above kindergarten level, then I will match the level of discourse ... mr. "Poopy-Pants."


Well what would you like to talk about? You have to read at a kindergarten level to listen to Bush. Why are we in Iraq, Mr. President? "Spreading Freedom! It's Hard Work!" Why do the terrorists hate us, Mr. President? "They hate our Freedom and our Liberty!"

You buy this as intelligent discourse?
 
2004-12-26 12:30:29 AM  
2004-12-26 12:19:48 AM Just Ignorant

You're aware the headline is a joke, right?


Sorry no, it fails to meet the minimum required standards of funniness. That headline is flamebait pure and simple. I should know as I am an avid fisherman myself.
 
2004-12-26 12:46:06 AM  
the_gospel_of_thomas
ChildMolestingPriest when I look up the word "Troll" your description seems to pop up. Why is that ??

Wow, can't slide anything past you, captain IQ.
 
2004-12-26 01:10:53 AM  
thanks gospel....

Valid and solid points. Not that they sunk in where
they should...but just thought I'd shout out "BINGO".


:-)
 
2004-12-26 01:34:42 AM  
Remember that story on December 20th? You know Cuba wraps up military exercises to prepare for potential U.S. attack. When I said "Silly Cubans... America's freedom invasions involve seperating 'terrorists' from their oil. Do you have any oil? Call US when you do."

A bit prophetic, don't you think?

With Guantanamo Bay chalk full of 'terrorists' I'm sure the US will feel a strong need to 'increase security' there momentarily. Question is: Where do you send captured Cuban 'terrorists'? Iraq?
 
2004-12-26 01:52:14 AM  
good luck liberating relatively happy people that enjoy the best living standards in the carribean despite a US-led stranglehold on their economy.
 
2004-12-26 02:11:58 AM  
"best living standards in the carribean" ??

Pff. There's no way they can surpass the luxurious accomodations of a Carnival Cruise.

(but seriously, I was under the impression that Cubans were kinda screwed in the whole faux-socialist dictatorship they live under?)
 
2004-12-26 02:59:50 AM  
punkennedys
good luck liberating relatively happy people

You'd claim to be relatively happy too, if saying you disliked the government got you thrown in jail (like it does in Cuba). Fidel is no friend of the working class, he's just another dictator. However, I suspect that if we ever tried to invade, the Cuban people would fight like mad to defend their island - nothing brings a people together like a common enemy.

Look up Cubas record on human rights
 
2004-12-26 03:11:11 AM  
For TotalFarks Only:
agreywolf42's prophecy
 
2004-12-26 04:18:58 AM  
For a finishing move I hope we pull his spinal cord out.

That one was always my favorite.
 
2004-12-26 04:19:47 AM  
Apparently, somebody has confused 'oil' with 'greaseballs'.

/Move along, nothing to see here
 
2004-12-26 04:21:09 AM  
So unless my math is wrong here, 100 million barrels of oil would be used up by Cuba in a little less than two years. This is a big deal why?
 
2004-12-26 04:21:58 AM  
Saying communism doesn't work is like saying automobiles crash themselves. They are only as good as the idiots in control.
 
2004-12-26 04:22:49 AM  
childmolestingpriest

most people in cuba are genuinely happy. you're allowed to openly disagree, just not resist. you can question, but not attempt to change. it's still shiatty, i agree, but not to the extent most americans believe.

ironically they're very democractic, more than the US is. on the local level, they retain a strong sense of democracy, where decisions are made by the community.. public leaders are civillians that are held accountable.. no election campaigns, private interests, career-politicians. really puts us to shame in that field.

although anyone with half a brain can tell you the 'elections' up top with fidel are a scam. the US might have open electoins for the top officials, but the local-level beurocracies make this country LESS democratic than cuba, in my opinion.
 
2004-12-26 04:24:48 AM  
jon stewart is smarter than you
 
2004-12-26 04:25:40 AM  
This reminds me of the Tracy Chapman song - "Cold Feet."
 
2004-12-26 04:30:26 AM  
willydwonka

Jean Shepherd fan, eh?

Me, too.
 
2004-12-26 04:41:06 AM  
bah, cuba's oil is so full of sulfur that we'd never want to use it... it has to be scrubbed 3 times before processing in order to keep the refinery from getting clogged. Liquid 3rd world garbage.
 
2004-12-26 04:41:46 AM  
You gotta admit that seeing Fidel bite it off that platform was pretty entertaining.
 
2004-12-26 04:43:44 AM  
communards?
 
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