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(Valley Sun)   City officials shut down 11-year-old's mistletoe stand for not having a business license   (lacanadaonline.com) divider line 73
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2004-12-24 01:41:34 PM  
...and for setting up shop at a verboten location.

City officials informed the children their mistletoe stand broke two city ordinances: those of not commercializing city parks and of requiring a business license for profitable ventures.

"If it's just kids selling lemonade outside their house we don't really worry about that," Susan Bertness, the city's business license clerk, said Tuesday afternoon. "If they're out in a visible location, Foothill Boulevard, and they're doing it for profit, then yes they [are required to have a license.]"


Not all that asinine.
 
2004-12-24 01:58:27 PM  
For a second I thought this was some kind of Holiday Kissing Booth.
 
2004-12-24 01:58:41 PM  
What if they put up a hemlock stand? Would that be alright?
 
2004-12-24 02:01:57 PM  
StomachMonkey

Same thought went through my mind. A mistletoe stand, with complimentary herpes simplex.
 
2004-12-24 02:09:23 PM  
mercurial: I thought you were supposed to kiss under the mistletoe, not kiss the mistletoe.

ymmm, sounds like a great variation on the tradition.
 
2004-12-24 02:21:56 PM  
I'll bet they really shut it down because it promotes promiscuity.
 
2004-12-24 02:22:05 PM  
Eat More Possum

I know...I was talking about the kid.
 
2004-12-24 02:25:00 PM  
Mercurial, I think Eat was trying to get you to admit that.

/11 year olds, man.
 
2004-12-24 02:28:08 PM  
Good. That'll teach him that being an entrepeneur is bad and that being a wage slave is the only way to live in life.

/thinking of starting his own business.
 
2004-12-24 02:28:32 PM  
Gotta go with the city on this one. Seems that if they were doing it in their front yard they wouldn't have had a problem. If they allowed this, then the next thing you know some guy selling flowers or something would hire a couple of kids to sell them in the park and claim they wee just trying to make a little extra spending money.
 
2004-12-24 02:34:10 PM  
Balder surrenders.
 
2004-12-24 02:35:11 PM  
Things are sure different from when I grew up. What is wrong will people today?

/old
 
2004-12-24 02:36:57 PM  
Next story: The IRS raids an illegal lemonade stand.
 
2004-12-24 03:29:43 PM  
Along with a few other people in this thread, I have to agree with the city. If it were just in one of their front yards, I would have had no problem. But they went to the park. That's against the r00ls.
 
2004-12-24 03:35:09 PM  
(shrugs) One would think tho that the city officials have something better to do with their time.
 
2004-12-24 03:38:43 PM  
The city could offer really cheap ordinaces for kids 12 and under. That way, my sweatsho....

Nevermind.
 
2004-12-24 04:21:16 PM  
I don't see anything [assinine] here. They should've just sold it outside their house. Why go to a public park?
 
2004-12-24 04:53:26 PM  
Lesson learned by the children: The United States isn't the land of opportunity-it's just make-believe. Like RFID-tracking School ID cards makes the land of the free a lie. At least living in La Cañada they can pretend they live in a different country-one that doesn't require fingerprints for cross-border travel.

/The world weeps as they watch the US people blissfully give into their government's rhetoric...
 
2004-12-24 05:02:52 PM  
good. and even if it were in their front yard, they still should've been shut down. no business license, sure as shiat weren't going to file taxes on the profits they make. next thing you know kids will be getting away with lemonade stands; selling unapproved food products without even basic nutrition facts available to the public. we need tougher business enforcement.
 
2004-12-24 05:59:59 PM  
Sucks for the kids, but they learned something about the system... if they don't like it, they can grow up and be lawyers and fight to change it.

/Wish I had some motivation as a kid to stay in college.
 
2004-12-24 07:34:59 PM  
wanted : common sense
 
2004-12-24 07:39:55 PM  
Along with the several others in this thread, Rules are rules. The kid went looking for trouble by going to a public park. End of story.
 
2004-12-24 07:40:20 PM  
A similar situation happened in my hometown. Two brothers were selling canned soft drinks and bottles of water at the street corner. The city shut them down. The kids were told that if they stayed in their yard they were fine but they could not setup on city property. The local media made a fuss over the problem. The kids ended up with so much publicity they had cars lined up down the road as people came to their yard to buy drinks. Kinda cool.
 
2004-12-24 07:43:04 PM  
Damn you people!

For all you know, that money they earned (extorted?) may have been going to finance terrorists! Maybe it's just all a big money laundering front

The culprits responsible bragged about continuing their nefarious scheme in another location.

I'm emailing a copy of this article to John Ashcroft, and as God is my Witness, Justice will be served. The kids, being young and impressionable should probably only get 30 - 40 years in prison, but the parents, the so called adults, responsible should be executed for treason.
 
2004-12-24 07:43:56 PM  
I dont know about you people but I feel much safer now that these heinous criminals are now off the streets.

If the police hadnt nipped this misletoe ring when they had, it could have thrown the entire misletoe industry into complete chaos that would end up shutting the entire country down. Hell not the country... the world!

If it was some power marketter doing something pulling in a bunch of money and being a nuisance year round or setting up even temporarily I could see it but its a couple of freaking KIDS MAKING A BIT OF CASH FOR CHRISTMAS PRESENTS.

Has everyone gotten so damn selfish that they cant look past minor stuff like this instead of dampening the spirits of a couple of kids who were learning and actually DOING something for their money.

Next time maybe they'll just come and hit you over the head with a bottle and steal your wallet.

Maybe if it was even on another day at a different time of the year I would even say that it was an ok thing to do, have we forgotten what time of the year it is?

Have we all gotten so damn robotic that everything is always black and white?

I dont know about the rest of you but my world is multi colored. My world doesnt just have 2 colors. Every single thing is dependant on the situation.

This situation tells me that they should have left the kids selling CHRISTMAS CHEER trying to make a few dollars (oh my GOD they made $20 illegally) to give to their family and friends, and NOT been a bunch of mindless assholes who would probably kill someone unjustly just because the rules say they have to.

I'd like to find the cops and give them a nice big shiatburger in their stockings.


Ho Ho Freaking Ho.


I'm happy. the rest of the world needs to allow themselves to be and stop being bound by rules and what they think other people think they should be doing.
 
2004-12-24 07:44:29 PM  
This wouldn't have happened if she had paid off the right people.
 
2004-12-24 07:44:36 PM  
Your mistletoe is no match for my T.O.W missle!

/seen it way too many times this week.
 
2004-12-24 07:51:54 PM  
Disgusting acts like this one give the death penalty a right to exist.

/Happy Holidays
 
2004-12-24 07:56:18 PM  
If they allowed this, then the next thing you know some guy selling flowers or something would hire a couple of kids to sell them in the park and claim they wee just trying to make a little extra spending money.

What? Who cares? Better than beggars, which is what you get at the moment.

"Following the rules" my ass. The Naz... ok, let's not go there just yet. But everyone knows that good government is knowing when to enforce the rules, not just how.
 
2004-12-24 07:56:44 PM  
So where will Getafix the Druid go to now?
 
2004-12-24 07:57:19 PM  
Loveless: Funny, thanks!
 
2004-12-24 07:59:14 PM  
why is a picture of a dead jazz musician accompanying this article?
 
2004-12-24 08:00:23 PM  
[I] Two hours and $20 later, Tavera and Evans were walking back to city hall with city Management Aide Jaysen Christensen to discuss the licensing options available to them. [/I]

That was first...

Now after moving to the 2nd location:
[I] Jameson said he even thought the new location was better, having garnered $12 in less than two hours.[/I]

Am I missing something?
 
2004-12-24 08:01:05 PM  
" Two hours and $20 later, Tavera and Evans were walking back to city hall with city Management Aide Jaysen Christensen to discuss the licensing options available to them. "

That was first...

Now after moving to the 2nd location:
" Jameson said he even thought the new location was better, having garnered $12 in less than two hours."

Am I missing something?
 
2004-12-24 08:06:48 PM  
Justin Horne: I think your missing HTML tags and using UBB code instead.
 
2004-12-24 08:07:54 PM  
'tis the season to be a bunch of heartless assholes..

/only like holidays for alcohol
 
2004-12-24 08:07:58 PM  
JUSTIN HOME

Yes, what you missed was that, because they moved, they didn't need a $100 license. So, $20 sales - $100 license at location number 1 = -$80, which is no good.

At location #2, $12 - $0 for no license = $12.

I'd go for location 2.
 
2004-12-24 08:08:47 PM  
That's La Caada for you. For those not in the know, La Caada (not pronounced La Canada) is a fru-fru suburb of Pasadena (which is in turn a fru-fru suburb of LA, I suppose, so consider it a distilation process) founded by certain ex-Pasadeneans who did not like the, ahem, diversity in Pasadena (which is an amazing little town), amongst other complaints. When I think La Caada, I think Vault City. Makes a lot of sense, now?
 
2004-12-24 08:10:51 PM  
That bites..
 
2004-12-24 08:11:17 PM  
2004-12-24 07:56:18 PM Emperor_Spleen
"Following the rules" my ass. The Naz... ok, let's not go there just yet. But everyone knows that good government is knowing when to enforce the rules, not just how.


You know, when police do this, it's selective enforcement. When judges do this it's "judicial activism." You can't have it both ways. If we are a nation of laws, then we enforce them. If there were a real problem with this, the laws should be changed. But don't get all biatchy about enforcement of a reasonable law.

Besides, isn't mistletoe toxic? What the hell are the parents doing letting their 11-year-old kids handle and sell poisonous (yet seasonal) plants in public parks anyways?
 
2004-12-24 08:11:32 PM  
OMG Christmas is under ATTACK! Send $$$ to Pat Robetson RIGHT AWAY or else GAY SECULAR JEWS from HOLLYWOOD will BAN christmas... FOREVER!!!!
 
2004-12-24 08:12:28 PM  
Yes, apparently I am missing the html, but that's ok.. I got the point across on my second post (heh...)


That said, ok, I guess I was missing the lack of license...It's in california and they are trying to buy christmas presents with $12... oh well.. Still farked up.
 
2004-12-24 08:14:01 PM  
I don't see the problem. Rules need to be enforced. Too damn bad.

You know, some asshole guests of my neighbors of mine parked in my driveway just now. Without even asking me. What the hell?

I'm trying to decide between informing them of their illegal parking maneuver or getting their car towed. Any ideas?
 
2004-12-24 08:15:31 PM  
Tow it, film it, and post it here.
 
2004-12-24 08:17:55 PM  
jesus farkers are pretty cold-hearted eh

let the kids slide...

but that is a good lesson for life
 
2004-12-24 08:19:28 PM  
Capitalism, love it or leave it.

/bwahahaha
 
2004-12-24 08:30:37 PM  
I was going to be an astronaut, but I was rejected because I had a bad case of missle toe.
 
2004-12-24 08:33:01 PM  
Clearly they can't set up shop in a public park, but screw this punitive license fee nonsense. Drunken small town hick sheriffs of America, lend me your ears. When faced with a dilemma, ask yourself What Would Andy Do? Andy Griffith wouldn't have handled it this way. If you've got the time to worry about something like that, you've got the time to take care of it properly. This is probably one of those wealthy enclaves where the sheriff is only needed every decade or so when someone loses it.
 
2004-12-24 08:33:19 PM  
No respect! Those kids shoulda let "city Management Aide Jaysen Christensen" wet her beak. Then she woulda left them alone.
 
2004-12-24 08:33:29 PM  
Villain
...when police do this, it's selective enforcement. When judges do this it's "judicial activism." You can't have it both ways.

Sure I can. When police do it, it is called using "discretion." When we elevate people to a position of power, we should make sure they have the common sense to deal with the issues appropriately. If police were not allowed discretion, there would be one cop for one civillian. Cops would be pulling over everyone who speeds, doesn't stop completely at stop signs, arresting everyone they find peeing drunkenly in an alley.

And I sure as shiat want a judge to exercise discretion. A man gets in a bar fight could face jail time for assault. But it is his first offense. So the judge lets him off with a warning. A second man is in a similar fight but has been picked up six times for assult. He gets three years. Both sentences were proper use of discretion.

And these mid-level city paper-pushers surely should have exercised some discretion.
 
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