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2004-12-21 08:18:46 PM
MasterThief heh, that'd have been a really shiatty convo. It wasn't *my* grad, it was my sister's (I was there taking photos and stuff).

*I* was drunk&stoned for mine. Can't remember a goddamn thing other than saying, with a shiateating grin, to the assistant dean of students while shaking her hand, "I hope you have a long horrible life." Then there was the 24h party that lasted a week.
 
2004-12-21 08:23:44 PM
that guys deserves a medal, oh and a warm cushy place to sleep.
 
2004-12-21 08:28:48 PM
Why can't we all get along?

I know, I know - limited natural resources...
 
2004-12-21 08:30:35 PM
I wish they had given more details about he knew that it was a false alarm and "stopped WWIII".
Sounds kinda fishy. Maybe someone sabatoged the Soviet computers to purposely try and start a nuclear war?
 
2004-12-21 08:33:40 PM
Read Charles Perrow's "Normal Accidents" in it he details an event where a USAF B-52 with onboard fire inbound to Keflavik airbase, Iceland decided to splash in the ocean instead. As it happened the damaged bomber came in on a path that matched the projected flight path of Soviet ICBMs over the North Pole. NORAD swept into action and at that time the Northern Hemisphere Air Defense Commander was the only person who was authorized to launch our nuclear force with no prior release permission from the President. Our strategic alert status was elevated to prelaunch. We were less than one minute from a first strike which was believed to be a second strike. At the last minute the bomber veered away from the computed approach, splashed into the ocean and the launch alert was de escalated.
 
2004-12-21 08:37:00 PM
Now if only we had a way to guard against an unauthorized launch...nah, that's not possible.
 
2004-12-21 08:40:10 PM
I think we miss having the Soviets to blame everything on.

wait a minute,i thought everything was bill clintons fault
 
2004-12-21 08:42:59 PM
Repeat, but a story worth repeating
 
2004-12-21 08:50:55 PM
speaking of clinton didn't he declare that soviet missiles aren't being pointed at the US? Wasn't this a one of his major accomplishments?

So how can we possibly be endanger today from a hair trigger nuclear attack today?
 
2004-12-21 09:13:50 PM
speaking of clinton didn't he declare that soviet missiles aren't being pointed at the US? Wasn't this a one of his major accomplishments?

So how can we possibly be endanger today from a hair trigger nuclear attack today?

two words:george bush
 
2004-12-21 09:15:28 PM
No weapon has ever been invented that wasn't used..
 
2004-12-21 09:24:06 PM
I say we need another "almost blew the world up" scare to get us to finally destroy every nuke worldwide.

And yes, we'd have to live with the possibility that some lost warhead might then resurface and be used against us, but that's the price we pay for saying they were OK to use in the first place.
 
2004-12-21 09:27:57 PM
If I had to listen to Pelosi for four minutes I would kill myself.
 
2004-12-21 09:36:27 PM
holy bejesus!
 
2004-12-21 09:40:57 PM
Biggie Thang: No weapon has ever been invented that wasn't used..

Funny, I can name three just off the top of my head.
 
2004-12-21 09:49:09 PM
If you're watching this tape, you are the President of the United States. Hello, sir, or ma'am. Hopefully sir.

Springfield has been classified "NWB," for "Nuclear Whipping Bhoy." In the first moments of a nuclear war, Springfield will be bombed at will by all friendly nations to calibrate their missiles. (the kids cheer) Now for total security, I will terminate the cameraman.
 
2004-12-21 10:00:25 PM
y'know, the exact same thing happened in NORAD.

The system that used to be in operation at NORAD detected incoming objects from space. A few weeks after the system came on line, the radar that was used to detect missiles bounced off the moon and came back to the listening stations. These readings came back to NORAD as a Soviet Missile Strike.

It was, in fact, a Canadian in charge of NORAD stopped the missile counter-attack because he suspected something was wrong. The number of incoming missiles was reading as "99", which was outside of the projected Soviet nuclear capabilities. Cities that were reading "0 time to impact" were still standing and just like that, all the incoming missiles disappeared.

It's scary thinking how close we've come to nuclear destruction.
 
2004-12-21 10:03:18 PM
Biggie Thang: No weapon has ever been invented that wasn't used..

The Neutron Bomb
Gerald Bull's Supergun
MIRV
Whatever they call the bomb that parachutes down, whistling, getting everyone on the ground (like a big troop formation) to look at, then goes off in a flash which permanently cooks every retina turned its way. Nice one that.

I know there are many more, like this one:

The Japanese Suicide Diver, whose job was to wait offshore and asplode US landing craft as they headed for the beach.

I do see your point, but this is a fun exercise.
 
2004-12-21 10:44:47 PM
It's scary thinking how close we've come to nuclear destruction.

That's OK. Because it's really not about saving the world or protecting Uhh'mer'ca. It's about profit. Most of the huge systems we deploy (i.e. StarWars) are not necessary and are simply profit exercises.
 
2004-12-21 10:47:24 PM
Sorry, but "letting go of the Cold War" just isn't going to happen. That's 50 years of history you just want to forget about and never talk about again. Nukes may not have flown but a war was fought regardless of what you want to think. Most civies have no real idea just how many times and how close we came to a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. Feel lucky if you don't.
 
2004-12-21 10:56:36 PM
99 red balloons comes to mind.
 
2004-12-21 11:19:13 PM
Nice job on noticing a false alarm.
 
2004-12-21 11:23:03 PM


I submit that the counter-attack in fact DID happen and we are now living in an artificial reality. In this artificial reality, the story got changed.

/take the red pill
 
2004-12-21 11:33:53 PM
It's Russia. Everyone lives in a dingy basement apartment.
 
2004-12-21 11:39:20 PM
Biggie Thang: No weapon has ever been invented that wasn't used..

My personal favourite: The Mark 45 Nuclear Torpedo!



This idiotic tube of pork had a destructive range greater than it's firing range! That's right - it would also destroy any submarine that fired it! Goodtimes =)
 
2004-12-21 11:45:37 PM
We should find his address and shower him with $$$ and our finest meats and cheeses.
 
2004-12-21 11:47:33 PM
pin_registered;
You make it sound like that minor fact invalidates it as a weapon..it does not...
 
2004-12-21 11:59:52 PM
Coelacanth-sorry but i don't get it the friggin' Kaiser Health Plan is one of the greatest, most reasonable things going-& they shoved yer grandpa off it? Henry J burns in hell...

Masterthief-I knew Pelosi's kid years ago-I'm sorry the former house Whip, in her speech, forgot to bring up her brother "Little Joe" D'allesandro from the Warhol Factory...strange how they keep forgettin' that guy
 
2004-12-22 12:05:18 AM
Ahh, the Cold War. Punk rock was so much more meaningful back in the day!



/Guns for the Afghan Rebels
/Angelic Upstarts circa 1983
 
2004-12-22 12:33:47 AM
I'm glad I live in a city that no one gives a shiat about.
 
2004-12-22 12:41:45 AM
The Cold War hasn't ended.
 
2004-12-22 01:35:26 AM
Does this have something to do with that Everquest article from yesterday?
 
2004-12-22 02:40:04 AM
That's OK. Because it's really not about saving the world or protecting Uhh'mer'ca. It's about profit. Most of the huge systems we deploy (i.e. StarWars) are not necessary and are simply profit exercises.

I'm rather glad you aren't in charge of keeping me protected from other nations with nuclear weapons.
 
2004-12-22 02:46:19 AM
"Wholy schnarkies. What a nice tribute. Sorry to hear about you loss."

No, that was my friend's loss, but in the long run it was our loss too, you and me and everybody else in the world. The reason I did a cut and paste on that post was because it was in a rp gamers' forum which would had trivialized the whole thing if I had only provided a link. But the point I was trying to make is how rotten we treat our heroes. The guy who saved the world lives in a basement. The guy who made Kaiser a mega-corporation starved himself to death because Kaiser cut his retirement benefits and he didn't want to see his wife get booted out into the street on account of him.
 
2004-12-22 03:13:57 AM
vonspringer, let me know what hole you're in so I can bury my head there too and get away from all this madness.
 
2004-12-22 04:36:39 AM
Don't get too friendly with the Russians, with Putin in power and as a former head of the KGB, there's no telling what he might do.
 
2004-12-22 04:58:14 AM



/At least the Cold War gave us great cartoons.
 
2004-12-22 06:01:34 AM
What? No mention of Skynet?



Robots shall soon rule the planet!
 
2004-12-22 07:08:53 AM
thank god it didn't happen. then we wouldn't have to live in a world where justin timberlake makes millions. wait...
 
2004-12-22 08:43:18 AM
pin_registered-

In addition to that, the military was also working on nuclear hand grenades. As with the torpedo, the solider throwing it was still very much inside the blast range of the weapon. But back then (1950's) they wanted everything atomic.....
 
2004-12-22 09:15:09 AM
My personal favourite: The Mark 45 Nuclear Torpedo!

How about the Davy Crockett:

 
2004-12-22 09:40:18 AM
Can't he move in with Rosa Parks?
 
2004-12-22 10:25:51 AM
The nuclear launch code for our nukes during the better part of the cold war was......0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0.

Seriously.
 
2004-12-22 10:26:57 AM
We don't really need to "waste" money on a missile defense program.
 
2004-12-22 10:30:16 AM
The Davy Crocket kicked booty. Sort off.
 
2004-12-22 10:34:46 AM
Davy Crockett nuclear device

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device%29

/html link won't work
 
2004-12-22 02:23:03 PM
Would you like to play a game?
 
2004-12-22 09:35:18 PM
Mutually assured destruction and nuclear weapons were the best things to happen to the world. Keeps everybody in their damn places, and prevents superpowers doing overly stupid things.
 
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