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2004-12-20 02:32:09 PM
What's worse: the zealot, or the 'Frosty the Snowman' Nativity Scene. Me thinks the greater crime is bad taste.
 
2004-12-20 02:42:14 PM
How unfair. I burned some crosses on the lawn of the Neil Combee County Administration Building just a week ago, and I got a ticket.....

And if the Nativity scene is forced to be dismantled?

"That's between them and the Lord," Pittman said. "If in their hearts they think they can do that, then that's between them and God."


My invisible sky primate can beat up your invisible sky primate.
 
2004-12-20 02:43:50 PM
Hmmmm... tonight, I think I'll plunk a 6' tall Menorah on the Baptist church lawn.
 
2004-12-20 03:02:53 PM
Link didn't work for me.
 
2004-12-20 05:11:10 PM
Smart move - it avoids the legal hate-fest from the ACLU and they know the local officals inertia prevents any sort of swift action to remove the display prior to Christmas.
 
2004-12-20 05:39:30 PM
Yes, damn that ACLU and their unending hatred of plastic baby jesuses.

And bless those Christians who are obviously above the rule of law in this case. Where would we be in this country without plastic baby Jesuses resting comfortably on public land rather than the curch lawn across the farking street?
 
2004-12-20 06:28:25 PM
Frosty The Wiseman?
 
2004-12-20 06:29:58 PM
Let's start the First Church of FARK, and demand to use Heineken for our sacrament.
 
2004-12-20 06:30:09 PM
For an article about baby jesus, they sure used the word "erect" a lot.

I also like the quote "crap is not a good word - say all this leftist, liberal agenda"
 
2004-12-20 06:30:51 PM
We have pink flamingoes as our yard Nativity scene...but,hey,this is Florida.
 
lbn
2004-12-20 06:31:20 PM
I think church burning should be protected by the First Amendment.
 
2004-12-20 06:34:03 PM
Weaver95
Smart move -
Oh? What if instead of a nativity it was a giant Koran? Inverted pentagram? Giant religous phallus?
 
2004-12-20 06:34:42 PM
funny that they don't even know when their savior's birthday actually is...
 
2004-12-20 06:35:07 PM
I fail to see what the big problem here is. This is nothing more than a grandiose case of littering. Call out the janitors with some trash cans or wheelbarrows, break the thing up, and throw it away. No muss, no fuss.

Heck, I live about an hour's drive from there, I'd be happy to come down and do it for them.
 
2004-12-20 06:36:46 PM
Does this mean the three wise men are firing AK-47s with bullets of Frakensense, Mur, and Gold from the trees? Maybe the sheep is a suicide bomber and will destroy baby Jesus with wool fragments.
 
2004-12-20 06:37:09 PM
Seems to me that if it were all that important God would come down and set it up himself.
I wonder why God doesn't do stuff like that anymore?
 
2004-12-20 06:38:00 PM
We all know you can't be a protester unless you start a riot, beat up some cops, and vandalize whatever is close by.
 
2004-12-20 06:40:10 PM
How friggin' immature are these people? Wah wah, we want to put our stupid false plastic idol on government property and they say we can't, so we'll act like whiney little kids and do it anyway.

It's a plastic Jesus, if you want it on public display, put it on your lawn or on a churchs lawn. Nativity scenes don't make you a good Christian, you morons. I doubt Jesus gives a flying fark whether the scene of his birth is being re-created in plastic on public spaces.

Farking morons. Just throw the damn thing out.
 
2004-12-20 06:40:37 PM
Take down the display, and charge those involved with public mischief.

Seems pretty straightforward to me. What they were littering the lawn with is completely irrelevant.
 
2004-12-20 06:40:38 PM
"I'll hit you with a baby jesus!"
-Foamy the squirrel
 
2004-12-20 06:42:40 PM
I find it amusing how there are those whom pigeonholes other individuals into groups and categories - as if their one purpose of life is to enforce their organization's mandate down other's throats.
 
2004-12-20 06:43:27 PM
What absolute farking bullshiat.

Get your church off my state, NOW, or I will do it for you.
 
2004-12-20 06:43:40 PM
I see your Jesus, and I raise you a foot in the ass.

cock bastards.....
 
2004-12-20 06:44:59 PM
olddinosaur:
Let's start the First Church of FARK, and demand to use Heineken for our sacrament.


Hmmm.. I think you are onto something.
 
2004-12-20 06:45:53 PM
Weaver95:

Smart move - it avoids the legal hate-fest from the ACLU and they know the local officals inertia prevents any sort of swift action to remove the display prior to Christmas.

Yes, damn the ACLU and their nonpolitical agenda of assuring Constutional rights for all Americans!
 
2004-12-20 06:46:10 PM
Anyone live nearby? This the perfect case to see how the Baptists act if another religion actually calls their bluff :) Go put up some giant pentagrams or Koran or something.

/Fargo, ND.. So far away from everything... Especially Florida.. Only all too much the same... Except it was -20 on saturday...
 
2004-12-20 06:46:16 PM
I also forgot to mention:
Meanwhile, isn't putting the nativity scene overnight without permission with obvious religious intent the same thing as their accusation to the museums with "leftist, liberal agendas"?

A nativity scene has an agenda as much as the "anti-christian" art displays.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2004-12-20 06:47:16 PM
Great quote: If wiccans can figure out when it's their savior's birthday, they can do the same.

Chances are the county commissioners are happy not to be called upon to make the decision to permit or prohibit the display and most residents are happy to have it. The only loss is the increased stress level among militant atheists, and I can't say that's a bad thing.
 
2004-12-20 06:47:22 PM
Christ is as necessary, or relevent, to Christmas as God is to Godiva Chocholates

Christmas is a SECULAR holiday based on a pagan ritual. The only thing christianity did was to force the name change a couple hundred years ago...in order to take over the existing holiday by inventing the Jesus birthday fiction.

/When will it be socially acceptable to start cock-punching these deluded fundy asshats in public? Please?
 
2004-12-20 06:47:38 PM
olddinosaur:

Let's start the First Church of FARK, and demand to use Heineken for our sacrament.

In modern church services they typically substitute grape juice for wine, so can a similar thing be done for the Holy Sacrament of the Church of Fark? For instance, could I chug Bass Ale or an equivalent instead of Heineken?

/not a lager fan
 
2004-12-20 06:47:39 PM
"Oh yeah," he said. "I'm definitely for it . . . We've had to swallow all this crap over at the museum (Polk Museum of Art) that's anti our value system. Crap is not a good word -- say all this leftist, liberal agenda."

I have re-read that over and over, and I still don't get the "crap" part.
 
2004-12-20 06:47:48 PM
""When it's their birthday, I think they have a right to do the same as we do," Pittman said. "If wiccans can figure out when it's their savior's birthday, they can do the same.""

oh for fark's sake... that was low. What a smug bastard... I'd kick that asshat in the teeth for the comment. I'm tempted to find this shiathole and 'erect' my own statue......

"If we don't take a stand, there won't be any Christmas or Christ or Christian religion," said Tom Hutto, 69. "We have to take a stand.""

sounds like a card carrying member of the Klan if you ask me...
 
2004-12-20 06:48:30 PM
On a almost completely unrelated note; my son has some Star Wars Clone Trooper Figurines and he leaves them in the front room. To the annoyance of my wife, I often set up baby Christ in his Creche with a Clone Trooper security detail at night :-)
 
2004-12-20 06:48:58 PM
Perhaps "Chocolates?"

/One too many aitches.
//The point is made though.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2004-12-20 06:50:21 PM
Christmas is a SECULAR holiday based on a pagan ritual.

There is more to a Christian Christmas than putting up a tree or exchanging gifts.
 
2004-12-20 06:50:48 PM
Faced with being outwitted by the church group -- and a precedent that could clutter county landscapes with symbols of snake worshippers or wiccans -- County Attorney Joseph Jarret fired off a letter Thursday to Ron Burks, pastor at First Baptist.

That's all it's about, complaints of "ACLU legal hate-fests" notwithstanding. If you allow one religious symbol on public land, you must allow ALL, otherwise church and state are not separate. I suspec that Polk county didn't really want to find a Wicker Man on their admin building lawn one day.



"All right, I'll take it home! You know how long it took me to make this thing?"
 
F42
2004-12-20 06:51:12 PM
Yay! A situation where everyone is wrong!

Not allowing the christmas decorations in the first place: Dumb.
Placing decorations under the cover of night without permission: Dumb.

Everyone looses! Wheeeeeee!
 
2004-12-20 06:51:18 PM
Hyernel:

When will it be socially acceptable to start cock-punching these deluded fundy asshats in public? Please?

Give 'em one for me next time you hear someone say that the candy cane is a testament to the blood of Christ and that the Twelve Days of Christmas has a hidden Biblical message.

When will these freakin' Christians reaize that not matter how they try, they can't put Christ into Christmas!

/I keed, I keed. Except for the first paragraph.
 
2004-12-20 06:51:51 PM
Did you say "Gorilla Nativity"?



Cannot find a GIS for a Gorilla Nativity, so I have to use monkeys instead. But here's a nifty pic of a gorilla family, suitable for Photoshop:

 
2004-12-20 06:53:02 PM
On a almost completely unrelated note; my son has some Star Wars Clone Trooper Figurines and he leaves them in the front room. To the annoyance of my wife, I often set up baby Christ in his Creche with a Clone Trooper security detail at night :-)

Better than the Judean People's Front crack Suicide Squad.
 
2004-12-20 06:53:44 PM
ZAZ: There is more to a Christian Christmas than putting up a tree or exchanging gifts.

Indeed there is. But all of the so-called Christmas "traditions" that are associated with the holiday: tree, wreaths, holly, mistletoe, present exchanging, even the date, manger, three wisemen, and nativity star, were all lifted from non-Christian religion and pagan rituals.

Rudolph is just a commerical invention of Monkey Ward's, but it's still a damn good song.

What's left, really?
 
2004-12-20 06:54:55 PM
 
2004-12-20 06:57:02 PM
We should have a church that has the Federal Income Tax Code as its doctrine, then have some else someone sue claiming that income taxes are a government endorsment of our new religion.

sweet.
 
2004-12-20 06:58:49 PM
"When it's their birthday, I think they have a right to do the same as we do," Pittman said. "If wiccans can figure out when it's their savior's birthday, they can do the same."

Have these asshats figured out that their savior was born in spring?

No wonder Drunk & Bitter Jesus is so drunk and bitter.
 
2004-12-20 07:00:04 PM
I drink alot.
 
2004-12-20 07:00:45 PM
I wasn't aware the Bible provides the date of birth for the Savior. Sounds more like somebody put "Christ" into a pagan winter solstice celebration to me. IMO.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2004-12-20 07:02:00 PM
But all of the so-called Christmas "traditions" that are associated with the holiday: tree, wreaths, holly, mistletoe, present exchanging, even the date, manger, three wisemen, and nativity star, were all lifted from non-Christian religion and pagan rituals.

The story of the the star, the wise men and their gifts, and the manger is in the bible, making it close to 2,000 years old.
 
2004-12-20 07:03:56 PM
Well, Buddhas birthday is celebated April 8th. Cool! Just in time for Easter!

That would probably stir things up!
 
2004-12-20 07:06:44 PM
Tomorrow is the sabbat of Yule. Perhaps some people should go celebrate the holiday on the front lawn of the church?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2004-12-20 07:09:22 PM
I wasn't aware the Bible provides the date of birth for the Savior.

There is evidence in the bible but it is not conclusive. I have heard spring put forth as a more plausible date than December considering the historical references in the bible.

One web page tells me that some parts of the Eastern Orthodox Church celebrate Christmas in January. The Eastern Orthodox Church as a general rule also celebrates Easter on a different day in many years.

In secular life we do the same thing, adjusting holidays to be more convenient.
 
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