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(Reuters)   Med students discover Gollum suffered from "schizoid personality disorder." Still no cure for cancer   (story.news.yahoo.com) divider line 62
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2004-12-17 03:27:41 AM  
GODDAMIT. Periods ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS go inside quotation marks. Questions marks can go outside; semi-colons and colons can go outside, but periods and commas always go inside quotations marks.

Also, Duh. Of course Gollum was a schizoid.
 
2004-12-17 04:45:52 AM  
congratulations, junior detectives.
 
2004-12-17 04:46:05 AM  
Should have used the Obvious tag.
 
2004-12-17 04:49:52 AM  
Ya think?
 
2004-12-17 04:49:59 AM  
"obvious".
 
2004-12-17 04:53:44 AM  
When do we get a "blah blah blah" tag???

/total crap post
 
2004-12-17 04:54:27 AM  
DukeFluke discovers med students suffer from "reality disorder" for diagnosing ficticious characters. Wins Nobel Prize, saves universe.
 
2004-12-17 04:54:47 AM  
Who posted this? I'm going to find something to strike you with.
 
2004-12-17 04:55:46 AM  
2004-12-17 03:27:41 AM TalkingBaseball [TotalFark]

GODDAMIT. Periods ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS go inside quotation marks. Questions marks can go outside; semi-colons and colons can go outside, but periods and commas always go inside quotations marks.


Actually, that's only true of American English. British English put the period after the quotation marks except when it's part of the quoted material. If the poster is using British English then he is correct in his usage.
 
2004-12-17 05:01:10 AM  
Come to me, my PRECIOUS .....
 
2004-12-17 05:01:52 AM  
"....."
 
2004-12-17 05:02:17 AM  
Should be an obvious tag.
 
2004-12-17 05:05:35 AM  
"If the poster is using British English then he is correct in his usage."

"British" English? What the hell's "British" English? If you can't just call it "English", then at least call it "English" English. All the other countries in Britain have their own language (apart from Scotland, unless you count parts of Glasgae). So it's "English".

/out-pedanting the pedants
 
2004-12-17 05:06:17 AM  
Fark that! If they're doctors, I'm a farking brain surgeon.
Give me my farking Ph.D. please.
 
2004-12-17 05:19:56 AM  
I have that as well but it's kept in check so long as I kill whoever the voice tells me to.
 
2004-12-17 05:25:39 AM  
dukefluke
What about Dialectical Scots and Scottish Gaelic ?
/pedant
 
2004-12-17 05:36:42 AM  
TalkingBaseball and RadiationDude - Actually, more and more Americans are doing that with their quote marks too. It's called logical quoting, and it wasn't the accepted practice in Britain until fairly recently either, though it's how many other European languages have always done things. If the period belongs to what you're quoting, it still goes inside the quote marks; if it belong to the external sentence, it goes outside, because it makes more sense that way.

A lot of English prescriptive grammar was pulled out of people's asses a while back, most of it an attempt to make English more like Latin. This despite the fact that English and Latin are completely different syntactically. Up with such idiocy one should not put!
 
2004-12-17 05:44:45 AM  
Well if you were in a smelly, swampy mountain for 500 years with the One Ring, you'd be a little wacky, too.
 
2004-12-17 05:54:06 AM  
You know, I think that people who get pissed off when there's a period outside of the quote have "paranoid schitzoid disorder".

Apparently, there's a deep psychological anger that is triggered by about 1/2 of a centimeter. What gives?
 
2004-12-17 05:55:53 AM  
"His bulging eyes and weight loss also suggests a thyroid problem, they added."

i think they forgot to take into account his age and the fact that he lived in a cave for centuries.

i should call myself Dr Dogbowl.
 
2004-12-17 06:03:15 AM  
Periods and quotes, the most logical would have to be something like this: "This is a sentence.".
But that is just ugly.
 
2004-12-17 06:04:05 AM  
dukefluke

You know the reason. You may as well say it. Americans can neither spell nor pronounce English, but as they won't admit their stupidity and inconsistent butchering of the language, they call it American English and maintain that it is a valid variant.

In the same sense as "omghi2u2 wtflolbbq!!111!" SMS-kiddy language is an equally acceptable variance, I suppose.

By the way, anyone ever notice that they needed to simplify the most basic of words but could still manage to spell longer, more complex words?
 
2004-12-17 06:41:30 AM  
In related news, seminary students determine that Gandalf may have been a wizard.
 
2004-12-17 06:49:56 AM  
And they just figured this out? God, and here I thought he just had a ghost posessing him for his Hostess Fruit Pies...
 
2004-12-17 06:50:16 AM  
I couldn't believe it when I read this article. This is truly stoopid. Schizoid personality disorder is a condition in which the patient's personality is damaged during the formative years. It must manifest itself by adulthood. Gollum was fine until the ring caused him to go bonkers.

Schizoid personality disorder and schizophrenia have nothing whatsoever to do with multiple personalities. By the way, the diagnosis of multiple personality disorder has been elimiinated from the diagnostic and statistical manual. It doesn't really exist.
 
2004-12-17 07:08:58 AM  
Thank you whats the frequency.. I studied abnormal pysch, and have found that everyone seems to think schizo's are "multiple personality".I didnt know that they removed dissociative disorder from the DSM? Interesting...
 
2004-12-17 07:19:24 AM  
And here I always thought it was either "possesion by evil magic ring", or "completely bugnuts".

Speaking of schizoid, why is it that when I'm posting today, my login field randomly fills itself with other people's names? Odd...
 
2004-12-17 07:19:39 AM  
Americans can neither spell nor pronounce English, but as they won't admit their stupidity and inconsistent butchering of the language, they call it American English and maintain that it is a valid variant.

Blah, blah, blah. If it becomes widely used enough, it doesn't matter.

French? What the hell? I don't see most people speaking French. I declare it invalid.
 
2004-12-17 07:27:18 AM  
So dissociative personality disorder was pulled from the 4r?


We had diagnose fictional characters in our abnormal psych class. I went the easy route with Wednesday Adams.
 
2004-12-17 07:42:05 AM  
You may as well say it. Americans can neither spell nor pronounce English, but as they won't admit their stupidity and inconsistent butchering of the language, they call it American English and maintain that it is a valid variant.

Damn, you limeys are touchy.
 
2004-12-17 07:42:26 AM  
Or did I mean identity disorder?

/been a while
 
2004-12-17 07:50:35 AM  
The stupid fat medical studentses are on to us...
 
2004-12-17 07:56:03 AM  
katalyst, as his name implies, is just trying to start somethin'. Hell, we're just as bad at butchering language as the rest of the world. Take "Lieutenant", for example. For some reason, English people are supposed to be pronouncing it "Luff-tenant", which is daft.

Probably best not to worry about it too much, wot?
 
2004-12-17 08:02:52 AM  
Still no cure for cancer...


At this point, I am convinced that scientists and doctors are trying to cure everything but cancer, so that one day, when nothing else is left to discover or create, all the world's scientists will collaborate on curing cancer and knock it out of the park.


However, the cure will probably be so powerful that it detects other deficiencies in our bodies and kills us. :-/
 
2004-12-17 08:07:12 AM  
The students noted his solitary habits, spiteful behaviour, odd interests, difficulty in forming friendships, emotional changeability, nervousness and paranoia.

Um, although "solitary habits" and "difficulty in forming friendships" would be signs of SPD, the rest of those just don't make any sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder
 
2004-12-17 08:15:12 AM  
Well, don't we all?

.
 
2004-12-17 09:14:08 AM  
Hmmm... Separated at birth?


 
2004-12-17 10:12:14 AM  
Hey, all you Ringers...

How 'bout going to the library at Isengard to see if they have any research materials about how barking-mad you get when you have an evil magical ring for a couple hundred years...

/Ohhh, riiight... It's magic!
//And fictional, too...
///Yes, I know the Prof. was just using it as an exercise...
 
2004-12-17 10:12:27 AM  
Americans can neither spell nor pronounce English, but as they won't admit their stupidity and inconsistent butchering of the language, they call it American English and maintain that it is a valid variant.

Ah, broad generalizations--the cornerstone of international communications. I wasn't aware that the UK owned the English language. If it's any consolation, I think there are some hillbillies in rural West Virginia who are still linguistically connected to the Queen's brand of English.

PS: this article needs an OBVIOUS tag.
 
2004-12-17 10:14:40 AM  
They're fooling themselves.
 
2004-12-17 10:40:42 AM  
katalyst-

STFU! (LOL!! me funny!!)

And as for the article...I've only taken a few basic psyc classes but even I knew that was obvious about the multiple personality disorder. I mean duh...
 
2004-12-17 10:41:42 AM  
I figured that out as first time I saw the movie.

No we didn't...

Did so...

Everyone shut up, we haven't even seen it yet.
 
2004-12-17 10:54:25 AM  
I work at a university. I can download the full article. And I did. It's pretty amusing.

"Competing interests: We are all of short stature and have very large, hairy feet."

Who says medical types have no sense of humor? ;)
 
2004-12-17 10:56:00 AM  
To keep this thread off-topic, I'm all for proper English writing, but I have to admit that I think the practice of putting periods inside the quotation marks is stupid, and I never do it.
 
2004-12-17 10:59:17 AM  
I'm sorry, but I have no faith in armchair psychiatrics, especially when they are attempting to analyze a being whose species they are wholly unfamiliar with.

Oh, and the fact that he owned a cursed magic ring.

/this goes for the medical doctors saying Santa is overweight, as well
 
2004-12-17 10:59:18 AM  
I disagree.

I still think he is a crackhead.
 
2004-12-17 11:28:49 AM  
AHHHHH I AM A PSYCH MAJOR.

what's the frequency Kenneth

By the way, the diagnosis of multiple personality disorder has been elimiinated from the diagnostic and statistical manual. It doesn't really exist.

Wrong, sort of. Multiple Personality Disorder was eliminated from the DSM IV BUT it was renamed as "Dissociative Identity Disorder" and has many subcategories including Dissociative Fugue, which is rare. DID is overdiagnosed still, though..

/geek
 
2004-12-17 11:29:33 AM  
/also crappy at html, apparently
 
2004-12-17 11:41:42 AM  
my preccioousss

^^ what I say when I take my meds.
 
2004-12-17 11:44:06 AM  
Anyone who missed that excellent MTV awards show acceptance speech, it's here. Much bleepage, but I'd call his speech NSFW if you don't have headphones. Reputations are scorned, characters assassinated, and any chance of a longterm relationship with Dobby the House-Elf scotched.

Gold, my friends, gold.
 
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