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2004-12-14 05:11:34 PM
For those of you blindly refusing to accept that the African-American community accounts for a dispraportionate number of crimes in America, please. PLEASE at least look it up before talking out of your ass. It IS true.

What that fact MEANS is a whole different thing.

It is also true that Whites (European-Americans) statistically own homes at a higher rate than other groups. Does this mean that White Americans are more prone to paranoa and need a greater sense of security? Or that they dislike having neighbors too close?

A fact is a fact.
 
2004-12-14 05:11:42 PM
The Jews, as a group, are good with money. Or at least getting their kids into professional careers in which they make a lot of it anyway. They do a lot better than the rest of the population, in fact.

More than that, a lot of it probably has to do with the genetically high Ashkenazi IQ.
 
2004-12-14 05:11:57 PM
malfeas99:

majorhopper's argument unfortunately breaks down when you start talking on the level at which racism really can be dealt with: Individuals.

Ok, asshat, I'll play.

My "argument":

That anti-black racism is based on a bunch of bullshiat about them being mud-people, apes and biblically condemned. This is the justification whites used in order that they didn't have to look squarely at the horrible things they were doing to these people. That today, we recognize (allegedly) that this is nonsense.

Anti-White racism by blacks is largely a reaction to the invented reasons mentioned above. The fear, the history of oppression and violence, has been handed down from one generation to the next. Many blacks still feel that anti-black racism still exists, and that it still works against them daily in an even more insidious way than it did before the Civil Rights Act.

The reactionary responses to this has been, largely, "I don't own slaves.", "They picked on me in school." and "Why can't we go back to being racists too, since they get Chappelle and Pryor?". The last one is my personal favorite.

It seems to pre-suppose that blacks have not been discriminated against since the last dog let go of black balls in Selma. You cry, "But it is the blacks who are racist now!"

You want to hold them to be more accountable for the jokes they have made for the past few decades, than for the terribly inhumane manner in which they have been treated by whites for HALF A MILLENIUM. You can't understand WHY these "whiners" can't just give "us" the benefit of the doubt and drop the whole thing.

Maybe this thread is why.



Steve French:

I hear blacks calling white people names all the time, like it's funny or something

Artimon:

since black people are understandably more sensitive to potential indications of racism than white people are.

octoslash:

Ever wonder why stereotypes exist?

Get behind an asian driver on the freeway.

Go into a convenience store or a taxicab and inhale.

Take a brief driving tour through a trailer park.

Bye...


MooseBayou: The more they are offended by the "N" word, the more power it attains.

jpboaty:

Black people are VERY offensive, the judge offended a lot
of people in dressing up like a black person.


lansky: 'm not racist, I own a colored TV.

LoveInAction:

White folks, burn this sentence into your brains and remember it well. This is how they rationalize their hate of us... there's no winning, no matter how much you donate to the NAACP or the UNCF.

Thras:

How about if instead of getting offended when they get called for it, blacks could stop committing crime at several times the national average?

LoveInAction:

Ha! Like billions haven't been spent on urban renewal over the years, only to have bright new clean buildings turn right back into "the projects" in record time.

The races are NOT all equal... you got your 100M sprint, your high hurdles, your one mile, your marathon...


Peter_B_Risen: Racism? Let's talk about being a white male in academia...

purestock94:

yet blacks biatch about how they're not equal, then when something like this happens, they all start crying racism.

nuclear_asshat:

If he really wanted to make a relevant statement, he'd have shown up in thug wear with a white girl.

LoveInAction:

According to the FBI crime statistics (which you conveniently keep ignoring), just the opposite is true. And has been, for a long time.

/but any white who goes to a predominantly black school already knows it


Civil_War2_Time:

Get me behind the wheel, and I can tell you exactly what color someone is just by the way they drive.

Mike_71:

anybody know any WHITE people named "Lebron"?

"Keeshan"?

"Aisha"?

"Terrell"?

"Shaniqua"?
 
2004-12-14 05:13:31 PM
Haizum

I see nothing on that page that supports your statement. Perhaps you could be more specific...?

No, don't bother. All you can come up with is a report that says that blacks are convicted of more crimes than whites. The sad thing is, you think this justifies your statement. I'm sorry, but coming from someone who fully understands both the scientific process, and the rules of statistics, you're just plain wrong. Not that anything I could show you would change your racist opinion, no matter how obvious or overwhelming the evidence.

Don't bother replying, I'm done for the day. Just forget I said anything.

I don't have the energy for any more of this thread.
 
2004-12-14 05:13:47 PM
Haizum

that is absolute fcukin' rubbish. in every pro-weed thread all we hear is how everyone is doing it. it's not just pot, white people take part in all crimes. it's just unbelievable you're coming out with this
 
2004-12-14 05:15:11 PM
example:

I chose to pet Golden Retrievers, I chose to stay the hell away from Pit Bulls.

Am I stereotyping the dogs?

Am I being a prejudice?

Am I a breedist?

No, I'm just not a moron and would like to keep my hand intact. Certain dogs are predisposed to act a certain way; it's idiotic to think that people aren't similar. We aren't that special.
 
2004-12-14 05:15:34 PM
The Saint of Killers

Oh I'm fairly certain it was a statement made by a racist. I'm more interested in how the statement ITSELF was racist.

And I hear you. I'm Half Irish, Half Scandinavian. Periodically I get smashing drunk and rape and pillage myself.
 
2004-12-14 05:15:39 PM
/To quell all doubt, I am Jewish too. That's right, Irish AND Jewish. Time to get stinking drunk with my family and celebrate the last night of Hanukkah.

Impossible, I say. One can no more be irish and jewish than one can be irish and sober. Or jewish and generous. Or....fark it, I lost my train of thought.
 
2004-12-14 05:16:08 PM
some_wild-eyed_8-foot_tall_maniac

omg blame the justice system, omg blame the police, omg blame the man, omg blame the government...omg
 
F42
2004-12-14 05:16:40 PM
majorhopper:

Anti-black racism is based on things which have been proven to be factually bankrupt, while anti-white racism is based on historical fact.


White men can't jump.
White guys have no rythm.
White guys are small in the pants.
Only black men can sing the blues.

Wanna keep the stupid going on or you gonna realise you're a 'tard now?

/Black people hate attractive and successful African-Americans too!
 
2004-12-14 05:18:12 PM
21-7-b

Yea, sometimes I don't stop completely at stop signs. I'm such a terrible law breaker and I'm no better than anyone else.
 
2004-12-14 05:19:17 PM
The Saint of Killers

I read Hazium's post to mean this...

Black people commit more crimes per capita than white people. (which I think is corroborated statistically) Therefore, it is likely that a random sampling of people will show that a higher percentage of blacks have been involved in a crime in the recent past.

So Hazium's original statement of "more black people have[ing] something to hide" makes sense in a way. Your rephrase as "black people have more to hide", on the other hand, is not correct.
 
2004-12-14 05:19:34 PM
F42

Black people hate attractive and successful African-Americans too!

That's because they are acting "white".
 
2004-12-14 05:20:17 PM
some_wild-eyed_8-foot_tall_maniac
Not that anything I could show you would change your racist opinion, no matter how obvious or overwhelming the evidence.

So, even when presented with a preponderance of the evidence, when that evidence conflicts with your world-view, you simply dismiss the evidence. May I call you kettle?

Try this exercise: Find evidence that African-Americans account for LESS crime proportinally than any other racial group.

Better yet, find evidence supporting your assertion that there is a racial equality with CHARGES for crimes.
 
2004-12-14 05:20:39 PM
mungtor

Thanks, that's exactly what I meant, although I admit I didn't say it that way and it could have been easily misunderstood.

Red wine will do that to you.
 
2004-12-14 05:21:00 PM
majorhoppedupondrugs,

As I said earlier...find any context of my statement/s that make reference to anyone of any color with respect to me being able to tell what color you are by the way you drive. I can also tell you, just by listening, what kind of car it is (with 50% accuracy), and at night can tell you (75% accuracy) of what any vehicle is just by their headlamps/taillamps. Useless talent I know, but there's a lot of people of very different colors, that fit within all of the driving profiles I mentioned earlier.

You are the one here trolling and making remarks that pigeonhole yourself into being cast as a non-racial person...while every argument you try and back up has you being blown away by all of us.
 
2004-12-14 05:21:13 PM
Only black men can sing the blues.

how about Clapton? Or Zeppelin as a group? Or Mic Jagger. White men can to sing the blues. Still can't dance though.
 
2004-12-14 05:22:13 PM
Jimmy Crackcorn

Oh I'm fairly certain it was a statement made by a racist. I'm more interested in how the statement ITSELF was racist.


I'm fairly certain as well. The statement itself was an opinion about an entire race based on facts that were not brought up. See the Dave Chappelle quote (about Puerto Ricans) for another example of such a statement.

BTW, as someone who is both Irish and Jewish, I know where you can get a great deal on some rotten potatoes...I'm just keeding!
 
2004-12-14 05:24:09 PM
Haizum:

F42

Black people hate attractive and successful African-Americans too!

That's because they are acting "white".


He got owned by the filter on that one. He wasn't saying what you think he was saying.
 
2004-12-14 05:24:09 PM
Haizum

"It just happens that more black people have something to hide when they get pulled over. That's just the truth."

that was what you said. it was wrong. it was not a good thing to say. it was racist (clearly). just admit it :)
 
2004-12-14 05:26:40 PM
Lusipher

But those aren't REAL blues, that's just Blues inspired stuff.

Only Tom Waits can sing the blues.

 
2004-12-14 05:26:48 PM
21-7-b

Just admit you are a liberal and don't want to face the facts.
 
2004-12-14 05:27:12 PM


I'm going to have to disagree, they set the dogs on people because they were breaking the law. Not because they were 'mud' people.

Whether or not the law was a good law isn't even the point.

The civil right's movement was to do away with inherently racist laws. The cops enforcing said laws were racist in large part because the laws themselves were racist.

i.e. Why is it ok to hate rapists and child molesters? Because what they do is against the law.

To quote Maddox



Course the laws have changed for the better and last time I checked Jim Crow laws haven't been enforced in 30 years or more.

Blacks by and large have more to fear from other blacks than the white population.
 
2004-12-14 05:27:29 PM
In the essence of building unity:

I've noticed a lot of similarity between the irish and the russian people. Both tend to be strict catholics. Both originated from viking stock. Both have a natural distrust of just about everybody, especialy those not of their culture. Both are very easygoing but rearing for a fight. Both are known to be heavy drinkers. It's like identical twins seperated at birth.
 
2004-12-14 05:28:02 PM
The judge was stupid for dressing up like a black prisoner. I wonder what the response would have been had he dressed as Condoleeza Rice or Clarence Thomas.
 
2004-12-14 05:29:17 PM
But those aren't REAL blues, that's just Blues inspired stuff.

Blasphemy. They're the white man's blues.
 
2004-12-14 05:29:45 PM
God I hate it when Euros get involved in threads that have nothing to do with them; black people for instance.
 
2004-12-14 05:29:46 PM
2004-12-14 05:11:57 PM majorhopper


malfeas99:

majorhopper's argument unfortunately breaks down when you start talking on the level at which racism really can be dealt with: Individuals.

Ok, asshat, I'll play.

My "argument":

That anti-black racism is based on a bunch of bullshiat about them being mud-people, apes and biblically condemned. This is the justification whites used in order that they didn't have to look squarely at the horrible things they were doing to these people. That today, we recognize (allegedly) that this is nonsense.


You're wrong. Most anti-black racism that I've ever seen is not based on such strawmen that you so tenaciously hang on to. It's based on what many consider a justified fear that blacks are more likely to be a dangerous criminal and that blacks would rather receive a government handout than work an honest job. Even if you can prove this has any bearing in truth with statistics, it is still racist and wrong. Black people are not INHERANTLY more likely to be violent or lazy. That simply goes directly against the fact that all men are created equal. Regardless, people use factsstatistics...to back up "logical" albeit irrational fear about blacks. Those are the REAL reasons (a few). So please stop using your invented ones. If you can track down even one actual person in America who believes blacks are, mud-people, apes and biblically condemned, then bring their name to the discussion.


Anti-White racism by blacks is largely a reaction to the invented reasons mentioned above. The fear, the history of oppression and violence, has been handed down from one generation to the next. Many blacks still feel that anti-black racism still exists, and that it still works against them daily in an even more insidious way than it did before the Civil Rights Act.


While this is partly true, it is not inherent. That is to say, that it is largely taught by the parents, which is as equally wrong as white parent-to-child taught racism.
It is exactly the same. It spreads the very prejudice and ignorance that civil rights leaders have fought against for decades. It's as self defeating an ingredient in the black civil rights struggle as any that exists (within their power to change).

 
2004-12-14 05:30:01 PM
Hey Lusiphur and Jimmy,

Don't forget Stevie Ray Vaughn...just look at what the true blues magicians that he idolized said about him. "He's the only white man in the world with the soul of a black man."

I'd say he qualifies as a blues magician.
 
2004-12-14 05:30:56 PM
Jimmy Crackcorn:

For those of you blindly refusing to accept that the African-American community accounts for a dispraportionate number of crimes in America, please. PLEASE at least look it up before talking out of your ass. It IS true.

What that fact MEANS is a whole different thing.

It is also true that Whites (European-Americans) statistically own homes at a higher rate than other groups. Does this mean that White Americans are more prone to paranoa and need a greater sense of security? Or that they dislike having neighbors too close?

A fact is a fact.


Can we break Black and White crime down by value? Are there numbers on this? There might be 100x as many Willie Hortons as there are Ken Lays, but the Lays steal 100x more.

In the "project" areas near me, people are routinely stopped and their cars are searched because it is a high drug crime area. It happened to a friend of mine. He was told that they would either search his car then and there (his only crime being that he was driving on a black street) or that he could go to jail and they would sort it out later.

I live in a neighborhood of $250k homes, I have never seen such a roadblock put in place here, although I know of three people who live here that I could buy drugs through for sure.

The rate of conviction for any given person is INVERSELY related to their income. Just look at OJ - he leaves a trail of blood from the crime scene to his bathroom and he is acquitted. Oh, but you say, he played the RACE card. No he didn't, he played the MONEY card, he bought the most spirited defense that could be mustered.

Cops know this too. I have been told by a prosecuting attorney that the best way to avoid a DUI is to drive a car so expensive that it looks to a cop like you might actually be a lawyer - or at the very least that five Defense Attorneys will spring from the trunk as soon as you are pulled over.

Go to an affluent area like Georgetown and look at the parking lot near closing time. Note the value of the cars there. Then go to the Impound Yard and look at the cars there.

Cops aren't stupid. They have a job to do. Who wants to get bogged down fighting the unfightable, when they could be back out there doing their jobs?

Your argument is specious at best, Tom Metzger at worst.
 
2004-12-14 05:31:19 PM
Haizum

that was another bad, bad reply. i'll let you off though :)
 
2004-12-14 05:32:10 PM
well, all I have to say is:


HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
 
2004-12-14 05:32:30 PM
mungtor

You're right, I did switch a word around there. But using these unsubstantiated facts (read: opinions) to prove that a person's race is more important than the person himself is racist. I don't care if 99% of my race acts a certain way, I'm going to act my way and I don't care if I fit into any preconceived notion of my race. That's how I read Haizums post.

Stewie: "Yes, at least their not lazy like the dirty Mexicans. Actually, the Mexicans are a clean, industrious people."

The more you know...
 
2004-12-14 05:33:02 PM
21-7-b

That's why I had a follow-up comment about how you are European and have no business trying to present and argument in a thread that really only concerns Americans.

/'merican arrogance
 
2004-12-14 05:33:02 PM
Ooof, how could I forget Stevie Ray. The blues are by far the greatest genre (or possibly sub-genre) of music ever invented.

/hopes living in mississippi will wear off on me and let me play mississippi blues
//also smoking 2 packs a day to get 'The Voice'
 
2004-12-14 05:35:01 PM
21-7-b

I'm somewhat kidding, but you still have to realize that Americans deal with this sort of thing all the time. Europeans are pretty content being homogenous so it's not really an issue.
 
2004-12-14 05:35:44 PM
Civil_War2_Time:

As I said earlier...find any context of my statement/s that make reference to anyone of any color with respect to me being able to tell what color you are by the way you drive. I can also tell you, just by listening, what kind of car it is (with 50% accuracy), and at night can tell you (75% accuracy) of what any vehicle is just by their headlamps/taillamps. Useless talent I know,but there's a lot of people of very different colors, that fit within all of the driving profiles I mentioned earlier.

Which useless talent exactly, the ability to spot a tail (unless it's Stingray (anyone?)) or the ability to make your talents fit into such nicely divisible percentages as 50% and 75%?
 
2004-12-14 05:35:55 PM
Just admit you are a liberal and don't want to face the facts.

God I hate it when Euros get involved in threads that have nothing to do with them


Read it again folks. This guy ain't prejudiced. It's those damn liberals and Euros comin over here tellin us what's what.
 
2004-12-14 05:36:28 PM
Haizum:

That's because they are acting "white".

What would Bill Cosby say right now?
 
2004-12-14 05:37:58 PM
The Saint of Killers

Yea, then I said I was kidding.

But that's cool, instead of standing up for your own posts, stand up for someone else's.

I think 21-7-b can hold his own; I'll give him that much.
 
2004-12-14 05:38:12 PM
majorhopper,

I'm still awaiting a reasonable response from you regarding how you tried to refute my points on recognizing people by the way they drive. But, you never have responded with anything that even fires one of my neurotransmitters, and you've obviously been owned like Lusiphur's cat.
 
2004-12-14 05:38:35 PM
And while I'm at it...WTF is an african American?
 
2004-12-14 05:39:06 PM
Dancin_In_Anson

What would Bill Cosby say right now?

I think he would say that it doesn't make any sense for blacks to hate other blacks for acting white.
 
2004-12-14 05:39:13 PM
What? It was you that said those things? I am shocked!
 
2004-12-14 05:39:54 PM
Haizum

that's great. and you're still a thinly disguised racist. i remeber how you injected how your grandfather was a nazi panza gimp into one of these threads without any justification. it was almost as if you were boasting. you seemed to be using him to suggest he was a nazi, that doesn't make you a nazi. but i think you'd loved all that. we got to discussing how many proper nouns have a z in the middle of them: nazi, haizum, panza, tanzania. great fun

just sayin'
 
2004-12-14 05:40:37 PM
I have been told by a prosecuting attorney that the best way to avoid a DUI is to drive a car so expensive that it looks to a cop like you might actually be a lawyer - or at the very least that five Defense Attorneys will spring from the trunk as soon as you are pulled over.

-As a lawyer and former assistant DA with a nice car, I need to move to your town. I was pulled over for DWI despite my car, and booked into jail. I beat the rap- not because of connections, but because I had blown in the intoxilyzer and the results were below the required level for conviction (yet there was "probable cause" enough to support an arrest). I am white, but didn't think the black cop was being racist. By the way in my time as an ADA I prosecuted people with expensive cars, and lawyers and doctors as well.
 
F42
2004-12-14 05:41:03 PM
jpboaty:

That's right... it's PC... it's VERY offensive to mention
black people AT ALL.

He could paint his face like a mime... no problem.
He could paint his face like a pumpkin... no problem.
He could paint his face like an indian... BIG problem.
He could paint his face like a white... no problem.
He could paint his face like a etc...

Just insert any race other than white... BIG problem.
Other races are VERY offensive in the PC movement.



What a farking idiot.

Are vampires real? Are anthropomorphic sentient pumkins real?

No.

Have black men been sent to prison for crimes they didn't commit because the police and judge were cross burning white robe buddies? YES! By the thousand.

It used to be easy for a redneck to get away with murder: Just slap on some shoe polish on your face and hands beforehand and some attractive and successful African-American's gonna hang for your crime. How many farking vampires have been framed for murder again?

/can't believe people can be that retarded
 
2004-12-14 05:41:09 PM
Dancin_In_Anson

And while I'm at it...WTF is an african American?


Dave Matthews.

/Good evening friends
 
2004-12-14 05:41:09 PM
Lusipher

I thought the Russians were strict Greek Orthadox?

The Irish were INVADED by Vikings, they weren't vikings themselves. They were Celts.

Russians are a Slavic people, originating on the steppes of Russia. Also not Vikings. Who were Scandinavian (Germanic stock of a sort)

The Irish are historically renowned both for their hospitality, good cheer, and generosity to strangers.

Yeah, they are both legendary drinkers.

I'm curious, is your National stereotype book maybe a mis-print?

/I keed I keed
 
2004-12-14 05:41:45 PM
21-7-b

I had a relative that was a panzer commander on the eastern front. I think I was using him as an example of a Nazi officer that was not in fact a Nazi.

Oh, btw, that has nothing to do with the thread.
 
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