darwin comments anyone? anyone?

/bueller?

Don't fark with your friend's best friend!

Dog would have been happy with a steak

sounds like good old english boys with good old english names..... *sigh*

The story about the killer cat on that page is slightly more interesting.

For farks sake, how on earth do the mods select what is greenlit?? Sure this is a great story, but that's a farkin shiatty headline. Sure 10 out of 10 for being factual, but minus several million for style?

Damn, that's a farked up thing to kill a friend over. What would it have mattered a week later?

"sounds like good old english boys with good old english names..... *sigh*"

Anyone understand this? Care to explain?

Man kills best friend over man's best friend.

THAT would have been a much better headline...maybe....

Yeah dukefluke if you read the article you'd realize one of those boys was named Ashley.

Fist
Or perhaps a compromise between yours and the actual:

Man kills best friend over man's best friend's favorite chair.

Uhhh Nuhh I aint hear'n that see.. you ask'n or you tell'n... cause no one tells Boxy Brown!...

\knowhatimsayin?/

AgentPothead - I DID read the article. Ashley is also a boy's name, where's the problem?

hahaha super ball

I guess the visitors should never threaten to smack one's b*tch up

dukefluke Ashley is only a boys name if Jethro is a girls name. Or if Drew is an ok name for Drew Barrymore, even though Drew means MANLY. How do I know this? Because my name means farmer manly.

Although there are better stories out there, this beats that stupid story about Britney Spears.

/Any story involving Britney Spears is not news.
//Same for J-Lo, Hilton, etc.,.

dukefluke

AgentPothead - I DID read the article. Ashley is also a boy's name, where's the problem?


Not only is it also a boy's name, I thought it was more commonly a boy's name. I've known two Ashleys, both male.

Ashley was originally a surname meaning "ash tree clearing". No sex attached, unless you take surnames to be masculine by dint of how they are handed down.

/don't smack my ash up

I knew a girl named Asher. May have been one of the most beautiful gals I ever did meet.

I have lived in 4 countries, visited 28 US states, and one time I even met Christopher Reeve. And every Ashley I've ever met, all 7 of them were female. Though dukefluke and binnster if you are european, I have to admit I have little knowledge of how many male Ashley there are in europe. Speaking as an american though, Ashley is female.

AgentPothead
Sure this is a great story, but that's a farkin shiatty headline. Sure 10 out of 10 for being factual, but minus several million for style?

Style is always a good substitute for substance.

/end sarcasm

"dukefluke Ashley is only a boys name if Jethro is a girls name. Or if Drew is an ok name for Drew Barrymore, even though Drew means MANLY. How do I know this? Because my name means farmer manly."

Right, just so this is perfectly clear to everyone - since the majority of Americans have, for the past 30 years, just make shiat up as names to give their children, any of you who chime in with comments about English names are just making yourselves look stupid, mm'kay?

Good call dukefluke, do you guys not remember Dom Peringnon getting shot last week?

dukefluke you can think I look stupid all you want. But if 99.99% of the world thinks Ashley is a girls name, it is. That is the power of words. They only mean what the people say they mean.

AgentPothead

Speaking as an american though, Ashley is female.


Speaking as someone from the country where the name was created, it can be used for both, but is probably more commonly male in the UK. I'd imagine our female Ashleys emigrated to your side of the channel back in the days of yore.

AgentPothead

But if 99.99% of the world thinks Ashley is a girls name, it is.


America != 99.99% of the world

"dukefluke you can think I look stupid all you want. But if 99.99% of the world thinks Ashley is a girls name, it is. That is the power of words. They only mean what the people say they mean."

Okay, gotcha. Just for the record, are you implying that 4 countries and 28 States is 99.99% of the world? No, didn't think so. I'll just wait on the decision from the PRC before I start collating world opinion on the subject.

As a Brit, I'd have to say that in blighty Ashley is mostly a male name. Also, I live in Wandsworth (just about) were this took place! I'm gonna be damn careful where I sit in future.

You know, I was always a little leery of my neighbor after he names his male german shepherd "Aspen".

/continuing thread meander

binnster I'm on irc right now talking to people from all over the world. None of htem think Ashley is a male name. I didn't mean that the US was 99.99% of the world. I meant what I farking said.Not what you farking think you can read between the lines. If you were to ask 99.99% of the world what sex the name Ashley was I'd bet anything they'd say male.

I went and checked though and the dictionary says you are right, Ashley is masculine and feminine. Though Ashlee and Ashlie are both only feminine. Where does that leave us?? Who the fark cares.

Well I did a GIS for 'Ashley' (using the UK google site) and 99.99% of the image results came back male :P

"Though Ashlee and Ashlie are both only feminine. Where does that leave us??"

Exactly where we started, Americans making shait up and calling them names.

Or we could go the other way, and use a whole bunch of names - ain't that right Billy-Bob-Jo-Bob-Betty?

Well try it on google.com, the whole front page is female :)

"Mr. Roachclip..."


/Cheech & Chong obscure nowdays?

Most people might think that Ashley is a female name cause their brains are rotted from all that Ashlee Simpson BS thats been crammed down our throats in the past months. You know - keep the ammount of thinking down and concentrate on making your associations by using single comparisons. Anyone who's grown up in a Commonwealth country would probably have known a few Ashley's in their life and chances are they were males.

Ashley is originally a man's name. Just like Leslie. And Laurie. And I'm sure there are other examples of male names that North Americans have somehow, for some reason, switched over to female.

And when you say 99.99% of the world - I'm sure you just mean:

Out of the North American population who have never read a book or seen a movie dated earlier than 1985, and think that the rest of the world exists just to keep the globe well-balanced in its orbit - 99.99% think that Ashley is a girl's name.

AWSOME

Thats so farking bad ass. GET OFF MY DOGS CHAIR OR I WILL SMASH YOUR farkING HEAD IN. Yes!!! AWSOME!!

I'm going to call any female offspring I sire 'John-Boy' (middle name 'Walton'). It'll take off big style and in a few generations every girl in 99.99% of the world will be called John-Boy. Then almost every American male will have a girls name (as we know that 99.99% of American males are called John-Boy).

Actually wageslave the name Ashlee is entirely female, we were discussing the sex of the name Ashley. And the only time I ever even heard of Ashlee Simpson was when she danced that jig on SNL.

farking right. Don't sit in Rover's chair.

"Actually wageslave the name Ashlee is entirely female, we were discussing the sex of the name Ashley."

And what in the wild wild world of sports is "Ashlee" unless it's a derivation/corruption of "Ashley", hmm? Seeing as it's been in existence as a name for about 25 years at the absolute maximum, that can be the only explanation, unless of course the origin of the name can be proved to be totally different.

So the name Ashlee isn't entirely female, it's the fabrication of someone who either can't spell or wanted their little darling's name to be more "special".

If they were in the UK why the hell does the guy have a baseball bat? Isn't that a sign that he is probably a psycho and is gonna bash someone sometime with it?
He should have a cricket bat so he doesn't look suspicious...

Are we sure neither of these guys is a British soccer hooligan?

who gives a rip about if it's a guys name. nobody wants to here what you oversea-ers think becuase nobody cares. Your opinion doesn't matter.

"who gives a rip about if it's a guys name. nobody wants to here what you oversea-ers think becuase nobody cares. Your opinion doesn't matter."

That's more like it. Pothead - take note - this is how you're SUPPOSED to deal with us forriners.

Goodnight, binnster.

Dobbs:

who gives a rip about if it's a guys name. nobody wants to here what you oversea-ers think becuase nobody cares. Your opinion doesn't matter.


The twelve year olds have arrived! Have a seat kiddies.

The spelling doesn't matter - theres a large group out there that would probably just think you misspelled Ashlee cause thats all they know. That was my point...

I think it's vitally important for us to get to the bottom of this Ashley matter as the death of the teenager is of no importance when compared to the life altering possibilities the gender of the name Ashley has.

G'night SwiftFox John-Boy.

I'm surprised he was going to claim self defense. In the UK don't they tack on an extra five years for self defense? Ten if it is in your own home?

Limey rednecks. Imagine that.

Jeffowl, only if it's against a dangerous criminal. :)

"I think it's vitally important for us to get to the bottom of this Ashley matter as the death of the teenager is of no importance when compared to the life altering possibilities the gender of the name Ashley has."

You're absolutely right. I'm assuming you have many insightful comments about the actual story that I bet you can't wait to make, and we seem to have finished the name thing, so fire away.

To be fair to the name-gender-sidetrack, there's only so many things you can say about the original story. Afterall, the kid had it coming.

The more I get to know People, the more I Love my Dog, the more I love my Dog, the more I want to Kill People....

/sumthin' like that

In my defense I was at work getting paid to argue about whether Ashley was male or female.

This is why I have a cat

I think the only place the "multiple name" (ie Billy Bob, Bobby Joe, etc) problem comes about is the deep south. And even then it's just a shortening of William Robert, Robert Joseph, or whatever. Although I'm not sure where Bobby Sue might come from.

I'm going to hypothesize that they call them by shortened versions of both first and middle names because everyone in the south has 30 kids, so naturally you're going to get more than a couple Roberts. Good way to tell the difference between Jim Bob and Jimmy Joe.

By all means though, judge the entire US on the south. We've been judging foreign countries on small groups of minorities for years. Turnabout is fair play.

So AgenPothead I'm just curious...Did you meet Christopher Reeves before or after he could wiggle his toes? Ohh and btw there are males named Ashley whether you think so or not and it's just something you're going to have to accept. Get over it you're wrong.

ohh and SUPA PWN!!1!!1!1!!!!11 STFU NOOB

/nerd
//my 2 cents

INFAMY
awesome comeback

Agent Pothead: one of the freakin' main characters in Gone with the Wind, set in the deep south, was ASHLEY Wilkes, a man. That was a popular book & movie for a good part of the 20th century. Something more recent? Shannon Doherty married Ashley Hamilton in the 90s. It's a man's name that maybe eventually will only be used by women. Kinda like Evelyn used to be exclusively a man's name.

yip yip

if we're going to get to the bottom of this, i think we need input from european people that've met christopher reeve

this incident must have been very traumatic for the dog

Ashley Lelie is a wide receiver in the NFL.

I have to say that AgentPothead is becoming my favorite little kid arguer on Fark.
Never have I read someone with such an egocentric view of his own world and self defend himself so seriously.
He completely refuses to actually understand the world around him.

I'm going now to hang out with my friend Leslie.
By the way, AgentPothead? Leslie is a man.

Open your floodgates!

AgentPothead ...Speaking as an american though, Ashley is female.

I've known male and female Ashleys. More females, but I'm pretty sure for males it's much more common in the South (where I'm from). It's probably because of the guy named Ashley in Gone With the Wind.

But back on topic:

What kind of psycho takes a baseball bat upside his friend's head because he won't get out of a chair? I could see giving him a black eye, but fracturing his skull? Sounds a little more than "self defense."

And as I have an Anatomy final tomorrow I will add my analysis of the head trauma:
They said good Ashley took a blow to the left side of the head. The most likely spot to cause death if fractured would be the pterion (commonly known as the temple) where the frontal, parietal, sphenoid, and temporal bones meet. A depressed frature of this area can sever the middle meningeal artery that lies just underneath the skull. The large amount of blood escaping from this artery would form an acute epidural hematoma and put pressure on the brain. People with this form of head trauma can often survive with surgery. This guy was one of the unlucky ones.

Bah, I've killed for less.

Why would you ever sit on the dog's chair? If it's even close to being as hairy as my cat's chair, you wouldn't go near it unless you wanted your clothes completely covered with hair

If you are English, you name your boy Ashley or Leslie because there is family tradition and pride in such a name, and because it has a masculine connotation.

If you are America, you name your boy Ashley or Leslie if you desire him to grow up to be one of the fellows on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy."

If you are Canadian, you don't name your boy Ashley or Leslie because both those names suck.

"What kind of psycho takes a baseball bat upside his friend's head because he won't get out of a chair?"

The answer is, "a Staffs Bull Terrier owner". Staffordshires are one of the Chavs' dogs of choice for dog-fitting and setting on people.

/I know a 50-something ex-Teddy Boy who keeps two.

It's funny that Americans criticise the name Ashley when they are all called stuff like Aaron A. Aardvark Jr or Ulysses Z. Spunkfelcher III.

Make that, "dog-fighting". And I'm surprised the dog needed her owner's intervention!

I'm going now to hang out with my friend Leslie.
By the way, AgentPothead? Leslie is a man.


My mother is called Leslie. She was named after my grandfather.

/true

By all means though, judge the entire US on the south. We've been judging foreign countries on small groups of minorities for years. Turnabout is fair play.

That's not turnabout, that's standard operating procedure for judging the US since its inception.


I have to say that AgentPothead is becoming my favorite little kid arguer on Fark.
Never have I read someone with such an egocentric view of his own world and self defend himself so seriously.
He completely refuses to actually understand the world around him.

Perhaps it's a reaction to the world around him completely refusing to understand the country he's from? (Although, to be fair, they tend to _think_ they understand it, so to what extent can you really fault someone for ignorantly believing they're not ignorant about something?)

all this talk about ashleys and ashlees and ashleighs, I can't believe we've forgotten Ashley MacIsaac and if you ever read the comics section of the paper, there's Ashleigh Brilliant

these are both very men, not to mention the NFL player mentioned above, and I do believe there are a couple of NHL Ashleighs.

but suddenly there is a pop icon girl with the name "Ashlee" and the whole world suddenly thinks its a girl's only name...


/thought "Dana" was a girl's name b/c the first Dana I was aware of was Dana Barrett from the Ghostbusters. boy was I wrong

*please adjust your eyes to read bold as italics in my previous post

He said Muir ran to the kitchen and returned with a wooden baseball bat which he brought down on the left side of Mr Bridgeman's head.

Does he mean a *cricket* bat, or would he really have a baseball bat? Is this another one of those words that Brits don't know so they use the wrong word, like the way they think soccer is "football" and stuff?

/they drive on the wrong side of the road, too.

//prissy whining follows below...

//prissy whining follows below...


Ghey trolling precedes above.

/not that there's anything wrong with that

What kind of psycho takes a baseball bat upside his friend's head because he won't get out of a chair?

the way I read the article, the guy tried to kick his friend out of the apartment after his friend threatened to kick his dog.

I would do the same.

anyone who would provoke, then kick my dog if it bit him does not belong anywhere near my property.

then the friend became violent and grabbed the guy around the neck...guy goes and gets the bat, and kills his friend.

its seems that the taking a baseball bat to the guys head only became an issue after the guy's "friend" escalated the situation with violence.

It's guns that kill people, and guns have been banned in England. So this story is B.S.

frazer_not_crane:

If you are Canadian, you don't name your boy Ashley or Leslie because both those names suck.



You've forgotten Mr. L. Nielsen.

K.

Justifiable homicide. 'nuff said.

fark'em.

Suede head:It's funny that Americans criticise the name Ashley when they are all called stuff like Aaron A. Aardvark Jr or Ulysses Z. Spunkfelcher III.

I don't care what you say. I'm proud of my Spunkfelcher heritage!

How could anyone steal this animals spot..


/ Stupid cat rips off my side of the bed constantly..

"Sure this is a great story, but that's a farkin shiatty headline."

Alright, how about these:

"Teen kills friend instead of smackin' his biatch up."

"Teen kills best friend when man's best friend wants to sit where teen's best friend is sitting."

"Your dog wants his favorite chair. Your friend wants to be alive again."

Surprised that nobody did a "Your Dog Wants" headline, but I apologize if they did as I didn't read all the posts.

I bet those kids were smoking the marijuana. It makes you kill people, you know. Like in that commercial.


/Drugs are bad, mmmmmmmmmmkay?

Good thing they didn't have any guns, otherwise someone might have gotten hurt.

I expected one to be named Laci.

/Remember Scott Peterson
//if you plan on playing Trivial Pursuit, The Third Millenium

"Teenager killed friend in row over dog"

What the F does "in row" mean.

And the submitter didn't spell favorite correctly.....left out the U, it is a must have

"Muir, what are you going to do with that ball bat?"

"I reckon I'm bout to hit you upside the head wit it, um hum."

"Yip"

Suede head:It's funny that Americans criticise the name Ashley when they are all called stuff like Aaron A. Aardvark Jr or Ulysses Z. Spunkfelcher III

Also, in America, white guys have names like Lenny whereas black guys have names like Carl.

well, you know what sick boy said about brits with baseball bats



/high as a kite and horny as a field of stags. it's been a beautiful fukin day

Ahhhh the smell of burning corpses in the street for Christmas..

Your dog wants to resume the throne.

What is the matter with Americans making up names? I think it's one of the coolest things -- not the ridiculous ones where people name their kids after brands, but that someone can think "Condoleeza" sounds good and name their kid that. And heck, the weird name doesn't seem to have held her back.

I think if I had daughters (I have no plans to have kids, so no one will be tortured with these names.) I would name them after gemstones, like Amber, Emerald, Topaz.

Just have to show off my Staffie Bull

Greaser_77 - "What the F does "in row" mean."

A "row" (pronounce the "ow" as in "ow, you bastard, that baseball bat really hurt") is another word for an argument. It's an "English" thing.

for those who dont know, these two twits were arguing over a pitbull.

figures such a moron would have a moron's dog.

Thank godness they don't have more guns in England, or this kid would have been even more dead.

What is the matter with Americans making up names?
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Because it requires thought and imagination, something that is frowned upon in Canada.

Pitbulls are some of the sweetest puppies of them all!

Their paws smell like gingersnaps.

/it's true

cleverloginname
for those who dont know, these two twits were arguing over a pitbull.

figures such a moron would have a moron's dog.
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You know Pit bulls are very popular amongst blacks, your comment could be taken as racist. FYI

Beli Tsar

"I bet those kids were smoking the marijuana. It makes you kill people, you know. Like in that commercial. "

at the risk of changing the direction of the thread I must say that your interpretation of that commerical was a bit off. I believe that the point of it/them was to !dramatize! the fact that there are consequences for doing drugs, such as, impared judgement (like alcohol.

"You know Pit bulls are very popular amongst blacks, your comment could be taken as racist. FYI"

So, in order to save cleverloginname's blushes, you're going to detract attention from his post by making comments that are both racsist AND dumb? Bravo. Your selflessness will not be forgotten.

...Aaron A. Aardvark Jr or Ulysses Z. Spunkfelcher III.


Is that Spunkfelcher, as in the Boston Spunkfelchers? They're really well known here in the states.

Infamy [TotalFark]

Ashley is originally a man's name. Just like Leslie. And Laurie. And I'm sure there are other examples of male names that North Americans have somehow, for some reason, switched over to female.

And when you say 99.99% of the world - I'm sure you just mean:

Out of the North American population who have never read a book or seen a movie dated earlier than 1985, and think that the rest of the world exists just to keep the globe well-balanced in its orbit - 99.99% think that Ashley is a girl's name.

--=--

Infamy, Im from Canada. Not only did I know that Ashley could be masculine and feminine, I have read books from before 1985.

Please, keep Canada -- in every aspect -- seperate in your mind from the USA. We happen to have the misfortune of being neighbours, but are a great deal different in many ways that you would find objectionable.

Fire and Ice by Michael Adams talks about the increasing differences between Canadian and USofAmerican values and opinions from a statistical POV.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0143014234/qid=1103035710/sr=2-1/ref=pd _ka_b_2_1/103-0659598-3004634

what, no 'your dog wants a lazy-boy' headline? and shouldn't have been a cricket bat?

So Ashley and I went to Terry's house and picked up Dana and Leslie on the way. Rene called on my cell and was picking up Billie and we all met at Daryl's place. Boys, girls, who knows.

/names are just names, people define masc./ fem.

What, you couldn't just grab him by the collar and yank him out of the chair? I wouldn't kill to give my cat his favorite chair.

About that baseball bat thing that's been mentioned...

They sell baseball bats in most sports shops over here and so many people i know own one.....yet i have never known anyone who plays baseball and i've never seen a baseball field anywhere.

Hmmm, wonder what they're used for instead then?? Oh silly me, the article explains it.

Actually, there IS a difference between a Staffordshire bull terrier and a Pit bull. Pit Bulls were bred for the traits commonly seen in pit bulls. Namely, instability, lack of fear, etc. They were bred from Staffordshire terriers, but they aren't the same thing. An American Pit Bull was bred for fighting other dogs relentlessly. Now, whether or not all pit bulls are mean fighters is another thing. if a dog is socialized correctly, chances are, it'll be a loving companion dog. But, most people that get pit bulls are morons who WANT a penis replacement dog, and even pit bulls that are properly socialized can be unpredictable because of breeding. This is much less true of a real Stafforshire terrier. Staffies are smaller than Pits, too.

And in the USA, Ashley is usually a female name, whereas in England, it's usually a male name.
Othe unisex names: Leslie, Shannon, Casey, Beryl, Shirl. Many others.

It wasn't a cricket bat. Cricket bats are made of wood, and need regular maintenance. For a start, you have to treat them with (I think) linseed oil, which has to be rubbed into the wood. Then the wood needs to be broken in, which means several days' worth of repeatedly bouncing a cricket ball on it. You've got to watch out for cracks, peeling, water damage... all sorts.

Baseball bats, however, seem to be sold in the UK for one purpose - beating people. No one here plays baseball (not counting US army bases and a tiny amount of sickos who actually DO play it), but people still buy them. If you banned them in England tomorrow, I don't think anyone's going to care that much. Besides, if you're a chav from Wandsworth who owns a pitbull, a baseball bat is going to be vastly more socially acceptible than a cricket bat. It's a class thing.

I think it was just a misunderstanding that arose when the dead one pointed to his mouth and asked his friend if he wanted to hit it.

And on the name thing

England's black left-back is ASHLEY Cole. It is definately a guy name here and seems to be slightly more predominant among black kids for some reason.

The guy's a pretty class footballer, just unfortunate he's a dirty gooner though.

Looks like it's time to start the process of banning baseball bats. We must continue to ban items used to hurt others until we live in a hurt free world.

Shannon, Ashley, Aubrey, Evelyn are all male names. And I suppose that Cameron will eventually be a female name as well.

An oh, A Boy Named Sue.

Damn that sucks. See UK, this is what happends when you ban handguns and most longarms. In the states that kid could have just gotten is daddys unlocked S&W .40 from the bedroom and waved it all around (after smoking a joint of course), and then "accidently" shot his friend in the chest making a nice clean wound, and not this barbaric head cracking baseball bat stuff you Brits do.

Oh and ashley is a girls name. Usually a hot stripper girls name. But yeah I know it can be both... you just don't see it as both.

All you would have had to said was 2 words.
Evil Dead.
It was fun playing though.

bco2365 --
"Looks like it's time to start the process of banning baseball bats. We must continue to ban items used to hurt others until we live in a hurt free world."


Shiat, we're going to be eventually ruled by the rock collectors.

I know a guy whose grandfather's name is Oral.

We had a guy running for senate in the last election whose name was Shirley Love. He was the only person on the ballot with "Mr." in front of his name. My Dad's middle name was Deloras, until he reached age 18 and changed it.

Apropos of nothing, I used to have a list of all the stupid/odd/misspelled hillbilly names I ran across doing title searches all over West Virginia. I wish I could find that now, so y'all could argue over the gender of Druzilla, Abrah or Dorcas.

Oh joy. Here come the ignoramuses who believe that specific dog breeds always behave in antisocial ways.

On a positive note, the dog gets a choice of chairs now.

FYI - Staffies are the most populare breed in the UK, and South Africa. They're also known as the "nanny-dog" becuase of their disposition towards children.

I am so disappointed by the lack of pictures in this thread. C'mon, visual types! We've got dogs and murder and baseball and the UK to run with.

Some breeds of humans will turn on you like that.

SkippinWork

I know a guy whose grandfather's name is Oral.

Was his last name Roberts, and did he see a 900 foot tall Jesus in Tulsa, Oklahoma?

laworderstuff:

2004-12-14 09:41:19 AM laworderstuff

Pitbulls are some of the sweetest puppies of them all!

Their paws smell like gingersnaps.

Please. This thread is gay enough already.

What about the name Lovie?? As in Lovie Smith coach of da Bears. A name is just a name. No one is right, no one is wrong on this one. This European vs American flame war holds no water for either side. Go back to soccer vs football flame wars. But again those are both just names which happen to both be accetable depending where you live.

Get over it, move on, nothing left to fight over on this topic.

Awww ease up. Boys will be boys, plus the dog LOVED that chair. Why should that asshat have a right to sit in the dogs chair? good riddance you dog chair taker!

Sique

Some breeds of humans will turn on you like that.

Like chavs, wiggers, and politicians?

I think we're all missing the point. He was sitting in the dog's chair...

I'm from the South....Georgia specifically, and I am well aware that Ashley is is boys name. A very nice boys name at that. But I don't have any Billy Bob Sue's in my family, but there are a bunch of bible names like Josiah, Madonna, Gabriel, and I think there is a Methusala in there somewhere......just kidding. Yes I do have a relative named Madonna though. And as far as the guy killing his friend goes, he shouldn't have threatened to kick his friend's dog, I'd beat someone with a baseball bat if they threatened my pup too!

Did anyone notice the advertisement for insurance on the right side of the site? The company is called HISCOX. I smell a photoshop contest, and really bad inuendo jokes.

Headline "Man chooses biatch over best friend." Oh wait, that isn't news...

This deserves the Hero tag. I can see the scary if it was a cat's favorite chair. I mean come on...

After reading most of the thread, I'm surprised. First, I went to school with two Ashleys. On guy, one girl. And how many people here would really look down on a male Ashley if, say, he had a fistful of boomstick?

Second. Your dog really wanted that couch?

/double-cliche?

Question: If it was the dog's chair, why didn't the guy let the dog kick the farker out of it? I, for one, will not be doing battle with a Pit Bull over a chair anytime soon. I like my balls attached.

Elvis Nixon: Heck yeah!

My daddy left home when I was three And he didn't leave much to ma and me Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze. Now, I don't blame him cause he run and hid But the meanest thing that he ever did Was before he left, he went and named me ``Sue."

Well, he must o' thought that is was quite a joke And it got a lot of laughs from a' lots of folk, It seems I had to fight my whole life through. Some gal would giggle and I'd get red And some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head, I tell ya, life ain't easy for a boy named ``Sue.''

Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean, My fist got hard and my wits got keen, I'd roam from town to town to hide my shame. But I made me a vow to the moon and stars That I'd search the honky-tonks and bars And kill that man that give me that awful name.

Well, it was Gatlinburg in mid-July And I just hit town and my throat was dry, I thought I'd stop and have myself a brew. At an old saloon on a street of mud, There at a table, dealing stud, Sat the dirty, mangy dog that named me ``Sue.''

Well, I knew that snake was my own sweet dad from a worn-out picture that my mother'd had, And I knew that scar on his cheek and his evil eye. He was big and bent and gray and old, And I looked at him and my blood ran cold And I said: ``My name is `Sue!' How do you do! Now you gonna die!!''

Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes And he went down but, to my surprise, He come up with a knife and cut off a piece of my ear. But I busted a chair right across his teeth And we crashed through the wall and into the street Kicking and a' gouging in the mud and the blood and the beer.

I tell ya, I've fought tougher men But I really can't remember when, He kicked like a mule and he bit like a crocodile. I heard him laugh and then I heard him cuss, He went for his gun and I pulled mine first, He stood there lookin' at me and I saw him smile.

And he said: ``Son, this world is rough And if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough And I know I wouldn't be there to help ya along. So I give ya that name and I said goodbye I knew you'd have to get tough or die And it's that name that helped to make you strong.''

He said: ``Now you just fought one hell of a fight And I know you hate me, and you got the right To kill me now, and I wouldn't blame you if you do. But ya ought to thank me, before I die, For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye Cause I'm the son-of-a-biatch that named you `Sue.'''

I got all choked up and I threw down my gun And I called him my pa, and he called me his son, And I come away with a different point of view. And I think about him, now and then, Every time I try and every time I win, And if I ever have a son, I think I'm gonna name him...

Bill or George! Anything but Sue! I still hate that name!

"This is my boomstick!"
"Any one of you so much as say that Ashley isn't a man's name again, and I'll..."




/Ashley is a man's name, even in the U.S.A.

Citizen R. Kane

Question: If it was the dog's chair, why didn't the guy let the dog kick the farker out of it? I, for one, will not be doing battle with a Pit Bull over a chair anytime soon. I like my balls attached.

It's a bull terrier not a pit bull, big difference between the two.

I've known Ashleys and Leslies of both genders...

Don't really care.
My sister named one of our female cats "Bruce".

SunCrushr you may now take solace in the face that you are apparently the only farker let "with a clue".

Too much xtal meth = psychosis = aggravated murder

I went through this same debate with myself a while back when I played Vagrant Story by Square for the Sony Playstation.

The main character was named Ashley. I mulled over it and even though I couldn't recall ever meeting or hearing about any Ashleys male or female, the name sounded undeniably female to me.
Ash sounds masculine to me.

I suppose on a deeper note all the names that end with the E as in Feet sound seem either the way you address a child or feminine to me. Danny, Jamie, etc... Unless I saw a prominent figure with a name to the contrary, for example Leslie Nielsen circa Airplane!

Bobby Sue is short for Roberta Susan...

For the record, just because you can use it doesn't mean you SHOULD use it.

Understandably, speakers of the "Queen's English" may choose some pretty limp-wristed names. That doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't think its funny.


from US Census Common Names:
NAME (male) %FREQ CUMM FREQ RANK
ASHLEY 0.014 85.797 584
KERMIT 0.013 85.851 588
JOAN 0.008 87.621 759
LINDSEY 0.007 88.174 834
TRACEY 0.007 88.181 835
ANDREA 0.006 88.590 900

NAME (female) %FREQ CUMM FREQ RANK
ASHLEY 0.303 34.098 63
JOHN 0.012 80.095 819
JAMES 0.010 80.707 875
ROBERT 0.008 81.819 996

tag007
It's a bull terrier not a pit bull, big difference between the two.


actually, Staffordshire Bull Terriers are just little pit bulls, not much difference between the two

Hahaha, they approved my link, but i guess the title "Your friend's dog wants his chair back" was too vague =)

He should have gotten out of the farkin' chair. Lesson learned.

Another murder with an assault weapon. When will it end??

What you gonna call it?
Ed. Ed junior.
But I thought you said it was a boy?
As in Edward. We just like that name.

he had every right to

/not

cleverloginname - sorry, I know how complex sentences can confuse. If you re-read - I think you'll see that I don't group all Canadians or all Americans or all Mexicans into a group of illiterate, insular morons. Rather, I have grouped the illiterate, insular morons from each country into a big, continental group of their own.

Also - if you click on a person's log-in name, you will see their profile. That profile often includes the person's location. Just a hint.


Thanks for playing though.

"You know Pit bulls are very popular amongst blacks, your comment could be taken as racist. FYI"


yeah cause they'll buy anything some loser rapper mentions in a "song."

chavs...

...'nuff said...

ConanTroutman

Yes!

I am apparently the only person this is happening to, but a giant starbucks ad with no option to close is floating over the first two paragraphs, so I cannot read. If anyone wants to be my best friend you could post the text of the story below.

OMG THX!!!

--brad

'Teenager killed friend in row over dog'
13 December 2004
A teenager killed his friend after he refused to get out of his dog's favourite chair, the Old Bailey was told today.

Staffordshire Bull terrier Cleo became agitated as a heated argument broke out between his owner Stefan Muir and Ashley Bridgeman, both 18.

Mr Bridgeman allegedly said he would kick the dog if it bit him and grabbed Muir round the neck when he tried to push him out of the flat, said Jeffrey Pegden, QC, prosecuting.

He said Muir ran to the kitchen and returned with a wooden baseball bat which he brought down on the left side of Mr Bridgeman's head.

It caused a 5.5cm fracture of the skull and the youth died the following day from brain damage.

Muir, of Wandsworth, south London, denies murdering Mr Bridgeman in April this year, saying he acted in self-defence.

Mr Pegden said: "This, upon any view, is a tragic case. The defendant and the deceased were rather good friends.

"They were simply watching television in the living room when they started arguing over the defendant's dog.

"The argument became violent. They became violent and began to fight.

"It seems the deceased might have been sitting in the dog's favourite seat."

The trial was adjourned until tomorrow.

"yeah cause they'll buy anything some loser rapper mentions in a "song."

Lolz!

Sheesh. The thread seems to have gone a little cold on the story up top with all this hoo rah about whether Ashley is a male or a female name.

All I can say is Ashley here in good ol' blighty is male, definately. The only girls called Ashley are spelt differently. Like Ashlee, or Ashlie I guess, but I've never seen it. Personally those spellings seem a bit gay to me, as if some schmuck wanted to call their kid something different and so corrupted the proper spelling. But hey, the proper spelling can probably be female somwhere else.

As for the name Colin, that's definately female...