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(Guardian)   Nigerian villagers seize Shell oil platforms, haven't yet worked out how to deposit them in your bank account if you just give them the number   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 170
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2004-12-06 09:35:10 AM
AFRICA WINS AGAIN!
 
2004-12-06 09:36:16 AM
Do they need a bridge? I can sell them a nice one.
 
2004-12-06 09:37:59 AM
Doesnt Shell have a private army ermsthn?
 
Ott
2004-12-06 09:38:26 AM
And if they all jump off a bridge would...all of them...jump off...a....
 
2004-12-06 09:38:52 AM
right on!
first this guy protesting for running naked, now this! revolution I tell ya
 
2004-12-06 09:40:01 AM
nice headline
 
2004-12-06 09:44:45 AM
I get Nigerian emails about once a week. The best one was the son of an Iraqi oil dealer who had to escape to Quatar because US forces killed his father and tried to seize all his property. The best part was that the son got my contact info from the United States Human Resources database. Whatever that is?
 
2004-12-06 09:45:01 AM
When will President Stoopid invade Nigeria?
 
2004-12-06 09:45:50 AM
Excellent headline, submitter.
 
2004-12-06 09:47:39 AM
Just in time to make gas prices go up again.
 
2004-12-06 09:48:04 AM
I lived in Nigeria for years. They should really think about using Nigeria as a good nuclear bomb test site. The whole damn country is very backwards!
 
2004-12-06 09:51:39 AM
Hyperx

Yeah, because not reaping the monitary benefits not being offered by the companies who are extracting the resources is really their fault. Especially seeing as how they're up against entities that have virtually unlimited pockets to pull bills from.
 
2004-12-06 09:53:38 AM
Just send them your car and they will return it with a full tank of gas and a barrel of crude in the trunk. I sent mine off yesterday.
 
2004-12-06 10:00:07 AM
In other news the price of oil reached $100 a barrell on rumors of the revolution.
 
2004-12-06 10:00:29 AM
I don't know what the facts on the ground are, but I'll tell you what - you've got to work pretty hard to piss off regular villagers (not militia people) enough to get them to come en-masse, unarmed, and occupy your oil platform.

I was also amused to see the guy saying they'd check to see if the villagers had a 'real grievance' - no, I'm sure that they just had nothing better to do, or are only out for the cash (along with their kids).

Too bad you never hear followups for this kind of thing - I'd like to know what's really going on.
 
2004-12-06 10:07:09 AM
Maybe they should declare the platforms an independent country, like Sealand. There could be a whole series of them worldwide! Pirates in the positive and literal sense of the word! Yarr!!
 
2004-12-06 10:07:14 AM
Hasn't AIDS/HIV wiped out about half the African continent by now?

/meh
 
2004-12-06 10:09:25 AM
In a semi-related story, I just got an e-mail from:

Ms.KIMAEVA LIOUDMILA, a personal secretary to Mikhail Khodorkovsky
the richest man in Russia and owner of the following companies:
Chairman CEO: YUKOS OIL (Russian Most Largest Oil Company) Chairman CEO: Menatep SBP Bank (A well reputable financial institution with its branches all over the world)

Looks like a new twist on the Nigerian scam.
 
2004-12-06 10:09:32 AM
perisoft:
Too bad you never hear followups for this kind of thing -

Sure you do, it just usually takes regime change and a couple of decades of digging before the mass graves are discovered.

/only half-joking
 
2004-12-06 10:11:28 AM
Fear the Russian Most Largest Oil Company. "Most Largest Oil Company" - another name just waiting for a band.
 
2004-12-06 10:11:46 AM
Too bad you never hear followups for this kind of thing

Here is a follow up for you from the BBC:

Last month, over 80 protesters occupied a rig operated by Shell contractors in neighbouring Delta state and 17 people were injured when soldiers opened fire.

Journalists were later shown the graves of seven men who were reportedly shot dead in the incident, but the army denied that anyone was killed.


I have a bad feeling that this protest is going to end the same way...
 
2004-12-06 10:14:30 AM
In a nutshell, the Nigerians are living in poverty and staring at an oil platform off their coast, wondering what kind of deal their own goverment struck with the oil company and where all the money is going. It's a great source of wealth that the "villagers" never see.

Corrupt government, multinational oil company, third world... y'know. Standard kind of stuff.
 
2004-12-06 10:16:08 AM
Hmmmm....threatening U.S. oil supplies....that's always a good way to get yourself dead....


/ just sayin'
 
2004-12-06 10:24:21 AM
I'm not all for big oil/big buisness, but isn't it kinda stupid that these nigerians are expecting us to give them something? Because as far as I remember, we don't owe then jack. How about if instead of rioting untill they get government handouts, they try, you know, educating themselves. Or at the very least, doing something to improve their condition. Other than waiting for someone to give them some share of what is somehow rightfully there. Fark them, says I, we have enough problems in this country without becoming the worlds soup kitchen.
 
2004-12-06 10:26:46 AM
I really need to get a picture of a big wad of shiat hitting a fan.... because this is what we have here.
 
2004-12-06 10:27:59 AM
EmbodiedHate:

Hyperx

Yeah, because not reaping the monitary benefits not being offered by the companies who are extracting the resources is really their fault. Especially seeing as how they're up against entities that have virtually unlimited pockets to pull bills from.



Guys, not saying it was right, but if the shoe was on the other foot, they would do the same thing to us, no matter how "civilized" they think they are.

This stuff is as old as the earth itself. Don't call people to take to violence to settle problems freedom fighters any more than those that do it for domination. It is human greed and avarice on both sides, pure and simple.
 
2004-12-06 10:28:32 AM
I'm not all for big oil/big buisness, but isn't it kinda stupid that these nigerians are expecting us to give them something? Because as far as I remember, we don't owe then jack. How about if instead of rioting untill they get government handouts, they try, you know, educating themselves. Or at the very least, doing something to improve their condition. Other than waiting for someone to give them some share of what is somehow rightfully there. Fark them, says I, we have enough problems in this country without becoming the worlds soup kitchen.

Lusiphur - your post takes my breath away with its ignorance.
 
2004-12-06 10:34:46 AM
I'm not all for big oil/big buisness, but isn't it kinda stupid that these nigerians are expecting us to give them something? Because as far as I remember, we don't owe then jack. How about if instead of rioting untill they get government handouts, they try, you know, educating themselves. Or at the very least, doing something to improve their condition. Other than waiting for someone to give them some share of what is somehow rightfully there. Fark them, says I, we have enough problems in this country without becoming the worlds soup kitchen.

We don't owe them anything, for their oil, that we are taking from them. Right... Now who's looking for handouts.

/"We" being the collective oil users of the world.
 
2004-12-06 10:38:00 AM
Old story. Chevron was loaning its helicopters to government death squads there ten years ago. A minority tribe controls the government and sells the national assets without sharing the wealth with the tribesmen whose ancestral lands sit atop the oil deposits.

Murder, mayhem, thievery, and environmental destruction.

But, hey, Americans: Go ahead and tank-up that giant pigmobile SUV or stupid giant truck. You deserve it, because you're special. Oink Oink.

If there is a God, a whole lot of Americans are going to roast in hell. Just sayin'.
 
2004-12-06 10:43:58 AM
El_Camino_SS
It is human greed and avarice on both sides, pure and simple.


Except that one side is rich and powerful, and the other is poor and impoverished. When people are living on the breadline, they will do just about anthing to improve their lives.... What's the excuse of the oil companies? They don't need one, because every decision they make is guided by one thing alone: the Bottom Line.
 
Ott
2004-12-06 10:48:17 AM
Everyone shoulda left Africa alone. That continent was much better off 'uncivilized.'

Ditto for America.
 
2004-12-06 10:49:17 AM
ScottMpls, HyperX, Farkshower1972, and Lusiphur, you guys are really, really intelligent !!! If the US contains people of your caliber it's no wonder it's the only superpower. Now I know why Bush is so bright. He's from the country that contains such fonts of wisdom as yourselves.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2004-12-06 10:49:50 AM
Often, poor Nigerians + oil facilities = Darwin laughing at roasted Nigerians.
 
2004-12-06 10:50:42 AM
Energy regulator Ofgem has launched an initiative to tackle fuel poverty by helping vulnerable customers to be more aware of schemes to help them.

would these "schemes" be perhaps some obnoxious scam letters sent to stupid foreigners?
 
2004-12-06 10:51:46 AM
How about if instead of rioting untill they get government handouts, they try, you know, educating themselves. Or at the very least, doing something to improve their condition

I hope to god you're being sarcastic. How do you think they will go about educating themselves? Should they pull books out of their collective asses? And as for doing something to improve their condition, what do you propose for that? Your post is the most ludicrous, self-flagellating and ignorant i've read of in a while. Try getting that silver spoon out of your mouth and live in the real world for a change.
 
2004-12-06 10:56:24 AM
but isn't it kinda stupid that these nigerians are expecting us to give them something? Because as far as I remember, we don't owe then jack.

except, we (oil-consumers) might owe them fair compensation for the oil that we're pumping out of their land, and the gist of the article was that not only has the government (which gets the money) abandoned them, but the company won't hire them either (and I have a feeling these are not high-paying jobs).
 
2004-12-06 11:01:17 AM
Lord_Baull:

Your post is the most ludicrous, self-flagellating and ignorant i've read of in a while.

self-flagellating? nice.
 
2004-12-06 11:08:46 AM
bigandugly
Lusiphur - your post takes my breath away with its ignorance.

I guess thats why you didn't make any kind of intelligent response, right? I'll give you a couple minutes to catch your breath and if I still don't see any kind of argument to rebut what I said, I'll assume you're a flame-happy troll who's content to mock anyone who doesnt mirror your chosen parties rhetoric. In other words, a moron.
 
2004-12-06 11:09:13 AM
EmbodiedHate,

Was that you I saw running down the freeway pulling a rickshaw this morning? Thought so. Carry on with your pointless self flagellation.
 
2004-12-06 11:10:19 AM
It's called desparation, folks. You have no idea what you would do in that kind of situtation.

That's what happens when the British chop up the contintent into little nation-states, everything gets farked up by tribal warfare, and these people get into the un-ending cycle of poverty.

Also, when foreign companies start being assholes, people start getting pissed off. See United Fruit in Nicaragua (? or was it Guatamala), or the oil companies in Mexico (read The Prize by Daniel Yergin - brilliant, unbiased book on oil history)

So what can us rich people do? Understand the CAUSES of the current sitution - look back at the past and see what we can try to help.

By help, I don't mean to throw cash at them. But we should work on aid projects that help build energy systems, infrastructure, education, agri, and other institutions that help things going. Not only in Africa, but everywhere.

If you complain that you don't think your tax money should go to that, then you are an asshole. Whether you consider yourself a christian or a humanist, you know in your heart that you should always help people.

Finally, we should be PATIENT. Anyone who has lived in a 3rd world country knows that patience is key. We can't expect things to change overnight, and we should expect desparate people to do stupid things. Your family would do the same.
 
2004-12-06 11:12:18 AM
skelter/Lord_Baull,

OMG!!!! Too damn spooky.

I swear I didn't read the posting comments past EmbodiedHate before making my ode to self flagellation. Self flagellation does pretty much sum up modern man beating himself up for things that he can't change without hurting himself.
 
2004-12-06 11:14:04 AM
2004-12-06 09:48:04 AM HyperX

I lived in Nigeria for years. They should really think about using Nigeria as a good nuclear bomb test site. The whole damn country is very backwards!

As opposed to the rest of the continent where everything is so very progressive?

I really hope you're being sarcastic and or trolling.

/ lived in Tanzania and Kenya growing up (east Africa)
 
2004-12-06 11:15:30 AM
'chumpchange
It's called desparation, folks. You have no idea what you would do in that kind of situtation.
That's what happens when the British chop up the contintent into little nation-states, everything gets farked up by tribal warfare, and these people get into the un-ending cycle of poverty.'

Like the people in Africa were doing so well before the Brits and Dutch showed up. They were just a weavin baskets and loving one another with bountiful charity. Riiiight.
 
2004-12-06 11:15:48 AM
Ahh time for excutive outcomes to go put that fire out with a lead hose.
 
2004-12-06 11:16:21 AM
We don't owe them anything, for their oil, that we are taking from them. Right... Now who's looking for handouts.

Ummm....oil that we're taking from them? Offshore?

First of all, I'm almost positive up until Shell and Exxon discovered that oil, the villages had no idea it was there. Secondly, even if they did notice strange dark liquid floating up on shore, I'm 100% positive they had no use for it. They're not taking anything from the villagers because the villagers had no use for it. Now that they found out it's valuable, they want "their rightfull share".

Heres a metaphor for you in case you still don't get what I'm saying. Your grandfather gives you a house, and in the front lawn is a rusted out shell of a car. You assume it to be trash, but are too lazy to do anything about it untill your neighbor comes over and says "Hey, thats a '70 chevelle ss, if you're not doing anything, I'll take it off your hands. I'll even give you $10 for it." Not knowing or caring much about cars, you agree to the deal. Your neighbor puts several thousand dollars into restoring that car in his garage, and when he's done, he comes by your house and says "Remember that car you sold me? I just got 40 grand for it at auction." If you were the nigerians at this point you would take your whole familly and go sit in his drive-way demanding your share of the money.
 
2004-12-06 11:16:34 AM
I guess thats why you didn't make any kind of intelligent response, right?

Typically, an itelligent response requires an intelligent fore-thought. To say that these people should educate themselves brings to mind the mentality of Marie Antoinette: let them eat cake!

Hey fool, in order to educate themselves, they would need a) some previous form of education (i.e. the ability to read) b) resources to educate themselves with (i.e. books) and c) some friggin time off from spending the entire day looking for ways to clothe and feed their families!!
 
2004-12-06 11:17:59 AM
'If you were the nigerians at this point you would take your whole familly and go sit in his drive-way demanding your share of the money.'

And I'd call the cops to come drag your stupid asses off my property. Which is what Shell will do. Sucks to be left off Darwin's party list.
 
2004-12-06 11:19:42 AM
"ScottMpls, HyperX, Farkshower1972, and Lusiphur, you guys are really, really intelligent !!! If the US contains people of your caliber it's no wonder it's the only superpower. Now I know why Bush is so bright. He's from the country that contains such fonts of wisdom as yourselves."

What's your point?
 
2004-12-06 11:23:03 AM
If anything, the United States is the recipient of the world's largesse, no the other way 'round. But instead of going hat-in-hand, the USA goes big stick in hand.

Think about it: The USA makes almost nothing anymore. We consume far more resources than we can produce, because we've eaten through the easily available resources of North America like locusts already. We export almost nothing beyond Michael Jackson CD's and satellite-guided bombs. We can't even fianance our own debt, and rely on foreigners to buy up our bonds and t-bills.

And then some Americans display their incredible, massive stupidity by blabbering about how indignant they are that we are the "world's soup kitchen." Haha. We aren't the world's soup kitchen, we're the world's glutton. The giant obnoxious pig of Earth. A continent-sized leech, sucking the world dry. A giant parasite.
 
2004-12-06 11:23:41 AM
ScottMpls, HyperX, Farkshower1972, and Lusiphur, you guys are really, really intelligent !!! If the US contains people of your caliber it's no wonder it's the only superpower. Now I know why Bush is so bright. He's from the country that contains such fonts of wisdom as yourselves.

*sigh* why do I get lumped in with the republicans? You know, it's possible to have an opinion that DOESN'T sit at one of the extremes. You know, finding middle ground? Being rational, and not just spouting party rhetoric? But I guess if you have to stoop to insults rather than making a valid point, you probably don't get the concept of compromise.

Also, human rights is BS. Before you go blowing all that shiat out your ass about how human rights are so important, check the tag on the shirt you're wearing. If it says Made in China/Taiwan/Hong Kong/Honduras/India/El Salvador go smack yourself real hard because that shirt was probably made thanks to your local global neighborhood sweatshop.
 
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