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2004-12-01 12:04:21 AM
I believe this says it all:
"They have a clear direction for the brand -- to elevate it just below Buick."
 
2004-12-01 01:47:35 AM
Saturn: The car company started in the late 80's to combat the import threat that started eroding American car sales in the 70's.

Saturn: The car company that started a fanatical following with its different approach and unique advertisements, then threw it all away and started acting like every other car company.
 
2004-12-01 02:31:46 AM
Saturn? Hell no.
Uranus. I would buy a car named "Uranus".

It's a much better name. Really. An ad man's dream.

Come in and test drive Uranus today.

0% Financing on Uranus?

Uranus, there is no substitute.

When better automobiles are built, Uranus will build them.

See the USA in Uranus.

Uranus has a better idea.

At Uranus, quality is job number one.
 
2004-12-01 03:03:40 AM
 
2004-12-01 03:07:06 AM
yawn
 
2004-12-01 03:13:18 AM
What the HELL is that pic?
 
2004-12-01 03:16:22 AM
after options like say an engine and wheels, this 20k car will be 33k fo shure
 
2004-12-01 03:19:49 AM
That would be "Saturn Devouring one of his Children" by Francisco Goya

clicky-clicky


/Nichole asked: "What the HELL is that pic?"
//Yea it's spooky :)
 
2004-12-01 03:26:51 AM
I don't WANT a Sky. I want the Saturn Curve. Hell I'll take ANYTHING new that's small, inexpensive, lightweight, 2 door, 2+2, and most importantly - rear wheel drive.

Until then, I'll keep my OLD, small, lightweight, cheap, RWD car: 1986 Toyota Corolla GTS
 
2004-12-01 03:31:35 AM
If it's anything like the picture, the sky could be a decent looking car. Doubt I'll be buying one in NYC, but you never know.
 
2004-12-01 03:32:57 AM
Well, hair-plugs and gold medallions are getting more expensive, so you've got to trim your crisis-budget somewhere
 
2004-12-01 03:33:43 AM
Ender-DI

Ain't that Toyota Sprinter Trueno somewhere else ?
 
2004-12-01 03:39:56 AM
GM makes crap. Saturn is GM. Saturn makes crap. I got a Sunfire as a graduation present to replace my mom's hand-me-down Cavalier. WHY, MOM!?! Kill me. (and trust... it's all crap)
 
2004-12-01 03:43:26 AM
Mad_Flyer: Ain't that Toyota Sprinter Trueno somewhere else ?


Only on Gran turismo 3:



And probably somewhere in Japan.
 
2004-12-01 03:43:45 AM
They'll have to get it right if they want to perform well against Mazda. The low/mid priced convertible market is utterly dominated by the Miata, and they're very well produced. My 1996 has 180k miles on it and I'm just now replacing the original battery on it this week.

Miatas are built to last and a lot of fun to drive. My only complaints about it are the noise level in the cabin and that it's a bit underpowered off the line...but convertibles are about control first and foremost, and the Miata delivers way way more bang for the buck in that arena than any other roadster on the market IMO.
 
2004-12-01 03:43:49 AM
Redlines aren't bad. I'd just rather have a WRX or an SRT4.
 
2004-12-01 03:45:25 AM
JohnBoone: Only on Gran turismo 3:

Yeah. Sold that SS Edition in a heartbeat to fund my fascination with over-powered RWD cars. Hah.
 
2004-12-01 03:47:26 AM
Ender-DI: Just paint it white and black and go all Initial-D on someone. ;)
 
2004-12-01 03:51:50 AM
 
2004-12-01 03:54:52 AM
 
2004-12-01 03:55:02 AM
Crap. Was I the only one tryng to figure out how the tagline fit into Cassini/Huygens?
 
2004-12-01 03:58:02 AM
Yawn. Make it a biodiesel or at least a hybrid and I'll think about it.

/used to drive a tuna boat Lincoln Town Car
 
2004-12-01 04:04:35 AM
le mew

Check out the Mazda Ibuki concept car, which has been making appearances at the recent car shows -

http://www.autointell.com/asian_companies/mazda/mazda-ibuki-04/mazda-ibuki-200 4.htm

Hybrid roadster. Something similar will probably end up as the next Miata redesign.
 
2004-12-01 04:14:13 AM
I'm a proud Saturn owner. They never should have dropped the SL line.
 
2004-12-01 04:21:43 AM
On a side note:

They put Honda engines in Saturn Vues. The good thing about this is that when the Vue falls apart you can still sell the engine.
 
2004-12-01 05:06:11 AM
Off topic, but related.

Put the word "Anal" in place of a car brand for some amusing results.

I'll give you an example:

"Anal Navigator"
 
2004-12-01 05:28:39 AM
NarrMaster -- Anal Supra? Sounds like a Mexican wrestling move...
 
2004-12-01 05:39:49 AM
but convertibles are about control first and foremost,

To quote professor farnsworth.
hhhwhat????
Convertibles are about not having a top. If you want a car for control get an NSX.
 
2004-12-01 05:49:03 AM
OK, gotta admit, it's funnier than my "Uranus" idea.

Anal Explorer
Anal Barricuda
Anal Ram
Anal Eldorado
Anal Avalanche
Anal Uplander
Anal Excursion
Anal Safari
Anal Odyssey
Anal Eclipse
Anal Legacy
Anal Outback
 
2004-12-01 06:00:18 AM
But then again.

Get your hands on Uranus, you'll never let go.

Uranus. Drivers wanted.

At Uranus, we build excitement.

Uranus, ask the man who owns one.
 
2004-12-01 06:10:47 AM
Anal Contour.
 
2004-12-01 06:19:51 AM
Anal Probe
Anal Eclipse
Anal Diamante
Anal Accord
Anal Spyder
 
2004-12-01 07:01:50 AM
My 97 Saturn SL1 has over 182K miles on it. Very little work aside from normal oil changes & servicing. They build a damn fine car that LASTS. I still get 30MPG and it's as powerful as it has ever been. I will buy another Saturn soon, and it will last me another 200K miles.
 
2004-12-01 07:03:23 AM
200K miles..? Heck, my Neon was only getting broken in at 200K.

/290K on a first generation Dodge Neon
 
2004-12-01 07:12:36 AM
I have two Saturns and when its time to get another car, I will look at Saturn first. You get a nice car, which rarely needs any work done, and its cheap.
I am glad they are expanding their line but I hope they dont lower the quality.
 
2004-12-01 07:12:51 AM
My friend's 97 saturn is gimpy as hell. He's had to put more money and work into it than I did my 92 geo metro. heh
 
2004-12-01 07:42:53 AM
Nichole:

My friend's 97 saturn is gimpy as hell. He's had to put more money and work into it than I did my 92 geo metro. heh

Heh, my 97 Saturn is still going strong at 140K with essentially no serious work. Kept telling myself I really wanted another Saturn when I got a new car, but I also wanted a convertible. This is a good thing!
 
2004-12-01 08:01:00 AM
Wasn't Saturn originally supposed to be a joint venture with Toyota?
 
2004-12-01 08:24:14 AM
I have a saturn. 130,000 miles so far, it has never needed any work other than routine maintenance. Drives great, I love it, will certainly buy another when this one kicks.

I didn't realize Saturn was 'struggling'; I see the farking things everywhere. Seems like every time I pull into a parking lot, I'm parking next to one. How hurting can they be?
 
2004-12-01 08:36:06 AM
The 2002 Saturn Sky concept wasn't even their first hint at doing this. I remember going into a Saturn dealership back in the early to mid-90's and asking about it.

What I remember most about it was the sloping front end, like if you took an egg, laid it on its side, and cut the bottom 2/3 of it away. The short end would be the same slope. I'm guessing it was based on their original body style before the SL/SC series.

It looks kinda like this, only rounder and flatter on the bottom.



Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any actual pictures or mention of it.
 
2004-12-01 09:01:35 AM
Mid life crisis on the cheap....

Two Words: Used Vette

Fastest $20 K around. Easy to maintain
 
2004-12-01 09:08:56 AM
Nice cars.
 
2004-12-01 09:15:28 AM
I love the blurry and overly contrasted piece of shiat picture they have of it.
 
2004-12-01 09:16:10 AM
i'll take my car
/anal new yorker
//not from new york
/// not seeing a woman from new york
//// or a man you perv
 
2004-12-01 09:18:05 AM
All I have to say is...... "My first green-lighted article! Whoot Whoot!"
 
2004-12-01 09:27:18 AM
*yawn* That headline should read "GM gives us another boring, underperforming cookie cutter car". When are people going to wise up? I can't believe that anyone would buy this crap. The new Chrysler lineup may be crap, but at least they are trying out some interesting designs with some decent horsepower (300 with a hemi anyone?).

I wonder if the exec who gave the green light to this project is the same one who green lighted the Pontiac Aztek?
 
2004-12-01 09:28:16 AM
fitzbuhn

Thanks for the sharper picture. As am I neither a 16-year old girl or a 50 year old asian man, I will stay away. (Thats pretty much all I see in the new beetle). At $22k, I'd rather have an MR2 -- which they are unfortunately discontinuing. For now I will settle with my s2000.
 
2004-12-01 09:29:26 AM
This about sums up the folly of Saturn selling out its 'inner hippy' soul and moving upmarket:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorials/1098444973/
 
2004-12-01 09:40:52 AM
good god, who spells w00t as "whoot?" yikes.

$22k will buy you a 1-2 year old S2000 with 20k miles on it. RWD, 240hp, and looks way mo' betta than anything Saturn will ever come up with.
 
2004-12-01 09:47:17 AM
No problems with my 97 Saturn, but Craniansodomy had it right with this pearl of wisdom

Saturn: The car company that started a fanatical following with its different approach and unique advertisements, then threw it all away and started acting like every other car company.

Saturns used to look different, now they use the same 4 door Sedan mold as all the other companies that is neither unique, pleasing to look at or at all interesting. They started naming their model lines which I thought detracted significantly from their image.

I don't know if they still treat their customers differently but it's about the most laid back car buying experience you could possible ask for. If they've lost that edge, they've lost it all.

If they wanted to stay true to what they do best, they would have the SUV the Minivan and this Roadster all have the same wheel base, and they would all cost $15,000 for a decently equipped option. That's how it used to be for their entire product line, you just picked what kinda top you wanted on what was basically the same frame, and you paid almost the same price regardless of which model you picked.
 
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