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2004-11-24 09:06:12 AM  
Gotta laugh at the fact they decided to include that old photo there.
 
2004-11-24 09:14:06 AM  
Personally, I'm more offended by them reprinting that picture in their article than I am by the word Napalm. It sure seems like people are trying to get offended these days.
 
2004-11-24 09:16:39 AM  
The "deadly chemical Napalm"?!? Wow.
 
2004-11-24 09:33:20 AM  
Things could only be worse if they decided showing a war movie on Veterans day was offensive...

/Never mind.
 
2004-11-24 12:12:42 PM  
The Advertising Standards Authority? The UK cna have ads banned because 7 people find them offensive? That is really horrible.
 
2004-11-24 01:02:27 PM  
Napalm is a tool of war, just like guns, swords, F-14s, and even jeeps. Yet all those other things are acceptable.

To take it further, will they ban the Easy Bake Oven because millions of Jews were cooked in ovens?

Come on. Kids (well, mostly boys) are fascinated with war and killing. Keeping them from exploring that is not necessarily a good thing, especially at an age where parents are there (we hope) to guide their curiosity. What happens when you tell a kid they can't have something? They want it even more. I'm not saying this will happen, but it's certainly a possibility that removing violent entertainment from kids will make them more likely to seek it out as adults, possibly in not-so-innocent ways as playing a video game.
 
2004-11-24 03:03:20 PM  
Interesting? Where's the Asinine or Stupid tag?
/No, it's not Ironic, either
 
2004-11-24 03:03:21 PM  
"Napalm never smelt this good."

"You smell that? Do you smell that? Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like-victory."


Yup, there's nothing like glorifying in the killing people. Anyone who doesn't do it is a wimp. I do have it right?

Kim Phuc's being herded down the street is a poignant image. That people like haws83 got a giggle out of it makes me wonder how many pedophiles are masterbating to it right now, thinking "With a name like 'phuc' Jesus wants me to do it".

iollow is just plain simple. Yes, I do believe they banned the "Auschwitz Limited Edition Easy Bake Oven-Biting the heads of gingerbread children has not been so much fun!" If you're going to draw parallels do it right.

Keeping them from exploring that is not necessarily a good thing, especially at an age where parents are there (we hope) to guide their curiosity. What happens when you tell a kid they can't have something? They want it even more."

Rationality meets Darwinism. That any child of yours survives drinking bleach, playing with matches, or cowboys and indians with your handgun, is beyond me.

Feel free to refute these scathing opinions, but consider I trained to go to Iraq when they actually had chemical weapons-as a NBCW Instructor. Children have begged me for food when I was in Rwanda. I was medically released after my tour in Bosnia.
 
2004-11-24 03:03:28 PM  
What a horrible picture.
 
2004-11-24 03:03:36 PM  
Lest anyone forgets, napalm sticks to kids.
 
2004-11-24 03:05:23 PM  
Nothink like the smell of napalm in the morning.
 
2004-11-24 03:05:25 PM  
macman37,

Napalm sticks to everything.
 
2004-11-24 03:06:15 PM  
In the original draft, Nicolette Sheridan used the word "napalm" in that Monday Night Football skit.
 
2004-11-24 03:07:51 PM  
No matter what you do you can allways find 7 people to complain. Its not like they said "roast some vitnamese alive". I wonder if these are the same 7 people that write letters to the editor.........
 
2004-11-24 03:09:57 PM  
Napalm was evil, is evil. But pretending that it didn't happen won't change that. As a kid I remember kids drawing swatzikas on their notebooks, not because of any hatred for Jews, but because they didn't know the significance of it all. Pretending that the world hasn't done horrible things or created evil devices only helps ensure that those same mistakes are more likely to occur.
 
2004-11-24 03:11:09 PM  
I'm with The Omni, WTF, seven people complained?

Slap each and every damn one of them and tell them to grow the hell up.
 
2004-11-24 03:11:27 PM  
iollow

Napalm is a tool of war, just like guns, swords, F-14s, and even jeeps. Yet all those other things are acceptable.


RTFA, it's not the word at issue, it's the phrase "napalm never smelt so good". I'm glad that americans are so willing to give lessons on free speech on public airways, considering you can't even say the brown word on broadcast TV.


To take it further, will they ban the Easy Bake Oven because millions of Jews were cooked in ovens?

Yes, hyperbole always helps to clarify an issue.


but it's certainly a possibility that removing violent entertainment from kids will make them more likely to seek it out as adults, possibly in not-so-innocent ways as playing a video game.

Umm, how is this about taking violent entertainment away from kids?
 
2004-11-24 03:12:04 PM  
iollow, it's just a ban on adverts. Nobody is banning the game. I can almost understand the fact that adverts affect everyone while the game is only played by people who actually want to play the game. Almost. People need to get off their i'm-easily-offended horse, and live in the real world. Same goes for the JFK Assasination game or watever it's called.
 
2004-11-24 03:12:44 PM  
I used to make napalm with friends and put it in bottles to shoot with our slingshots. It was fun watching the splash of fire engulf the local park's grass. Muahaha. NAPALM!!!
 
2004-11-24 03:12:45 PM  

" The flammable jelly killed many Vietnamese civilians."


It's all in how you spread it on your toast, actually.

 
2004-11-24 03:13:40 PM  
Napalm hasn't been in the inventory of the U.S. military since the 70s.
 
2004-11-24 03:13:42 PM  
One of my TAs from a history class a few years ago told me that Viet Cong basically translated into Red Chink. Anyone know if that's the truth?
 
2004-11-24 03:14:22 PM  


Napalm man from megaman 5
 
2004-11-24 03:14:34 PM  
I made napalm when I was a kid using my Poor Man's James Bond Bible. Nasty stuff. Let me put it this way, AGREYWOLF42, I can guarantee you played with the flamethrower guy that comes in every toy soldier kit. Hell he was the cool one. Didn't affect you then. The only reason Napalm affects people now is because no one saw pictures of fried Japs at the bottom of the Iwo Jima caves.

In my mind, this world needs to either come to terms with the fact that human destructive power is never more than a google search away. Or and advert.

/Man I miss my Poor Man's James Bond book and my anarchist cookbook... hehe
 
2004-11-24 03:14:54 PM  
Ahhh....Britain....

Where you can show titties in a daily newspaper, but you can't purchase a video with:

1)head butting
2)hitting or kicking an unconscious person
3)nun-chuks
 
2004-11-24 03:17:22 PM  
From Wikipedia:

Viet Cong (Vit Cng) was a name used by American and allied soldiers in Vietnam, as well as by much of the English language media to refer to the armed insurgents and political dissidents fighting against the Republic of Vietnam during the Vietnam War. The name was derived from a contraction for the Vietnamese phrase Vit Nam Cng Sn, or "Vietnamese Communist." The primary group covered by the term is the guerrilla army formally named the People's Armed Liberation Forces (PALF), the military of the National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam (Vietnamese Mt Trn Gii Phng Min Nam Vit Nam) or National Liberation Front (NLF). In areas under its control the NLF also included many non-military cadres, including villages chiefs, village clerks, and school teachers. Many consider the term Viet Cong fairly derogatory, although its widespread use in the United States and Europe since the Vietnam War has made the term better known than the proper name of the NLF.

This expression originated with and was used by the Republic of Vietnam (RVN) government of South Vietnam under President Ngo Dinh Diem. It was originally a general term used to describe his political opponents, many (but not all) of whom were Communists. Its use became widespread in Vietnam after the 1954 partition of the country between the RVN in the south and the communist-dominated Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) in the north. The NLF and its guerrilla army, the People's Liberation Armed Forces (PLAF), never used the name "Viet Cong" to refer to themselves, and always asserted that they were a national front of all anti-RVN forces, communist or not.

In U.S. military usage Viet Cong was the successor term to Viet Minh, which described the forces led by Ho Chi Minh against the French for the independence of Viet Nam in the First Indochina War, from 1945 to 1954; however, unlike the term Viet Minh, which described all of the forces fighting France, Viet Cong specifically referred only to the insurgent forces in South Vietnam. North Vietnam regular army forces were described as PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) or simply North Vietnamese Army (Qun i Bc Vit).

In 1969, the National Front formed a provisional Republic of South Vietnam which took power briefly after the fall of Saigon in 1975 and before the reunification of the country under the leadership of the Communist Party of Vietnam as the Socialist Republic of Vietnam in 1976.
 
2004-11-24 03:18:17 PM  

The corporate headquarters of the company that made NAPALM during the Vietnam war is a few miles from me. It has not been banned.
 
2004-11-24 03:19:09 PM  
Mr. Clarence Butterworth:

Ahhh....Britain....

Where you can show titties in a daily newspaper, but you can't purchase a video with:

1)head butting
2)hitting or kicking an unconscious person
3)nun-chuks


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that violence should be more acceptable than boobs. Any reason why?
 
2004-11-24 03:19:40 PM  
Thanks
 
2004-11-24 03:19:54 PM  
Ah I feel so much SAFER.

It is safer, now...isn't it?
 
2004-11-24 03:20:10 PM  
I'm offended by tampon adverts. I don't care if the damn thing will hold the Atlantic ocean. I don't want to see it on my T.V.

You know what I do? I fast-forward, mute, or change the station. Grow up people, it's life, and in case nobody bothered to clue you in on this yet, it isn't fair.

/also; I don't want to hear about your "freshness", keep it to yourself, thank you.
 
2004-11-24 03:20:12 PM  
The accented vowels didn't copy over into my last post. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Cong for full text.
 
2004-11-24 03:20:25 PM  
Fact: "Phuc" is pronounced "Puke". The young lady lived and is an anti-war activist today. Lots of hits on google, here's her Foundation.

"Now Mrs. Kim Phuc lives in the Toronto area of Canada with her husband and two sons, Thomas and Stephen. In 1997 UNESCO named her a Goodwill Ambassador for Peace. She is also an Honourary Member of Kingston Rotary, an Honourary Member of St. Albert Rotary, a member of the Advisory Board for the Wheelchair Foundation, an Honourary Member of the Canadian Commission for UNESCO, and a recipient of the Queens Golden Jubilee Medal."
 
2004-11-24 03:21:42 PM  
Morrigan Sedai

No, just pointing out the oddness of it. Unless it's American TV/Movies/videogames, then it's the other way around.

Boobs are much better than violence, in my opinion.
 
2004-11-24 03:22:00 PM  


History repeats and repeats until we change it....
 
2004-11-24 03:22:14 PM  


"ALKSFJHALDJ@JSHERAHHRAR! NO COMMENT! RAARRASLJHRRASD!"

 
2004-11-24 03:22:24 PM  
DIY napalm: white soap (such as Ivory), shaved into slivers and dissolved in gasoline. Broken-up styrofoam chunks may be substituted.

More fun than Playstation. ;)
 
2004-11-24 03:24:22 PM  
This happens too farkin' much. An ad generates maybe 5-10 complaints, and the ASA bans it on the basis that it may cause "serious or widespread offence". Which, of course, it hasn't, since the only people complaining were a few easily offended twats with nothing better to do.
 
2004-11-24 03:24:49 PM  
Meanwhile we used it during the Iraq invasion, which the british participated in. Nothing hypocritical there, no.
 
2004-11-24 03:25:53 PM  
I felt compelled to comment here because of my username...but I have nothing witty to say. Man, Im a J-O-O. I do have a question though...why is it no matter what you do, someone gets offended? What happened to telling people to just get over it. Im positive people arent even HALF as offended as they usually claim they are when they see or hear something. And, even if they are geniunely offended...who the hell cares? You cant always worry about how someone feelings are going to be affected. Oh well, though what can you do?
 
2004-11-24 03:26:51 PM  
Eh, Napalm is ok, but it is willy peter that will make you a believer.
 
2004-11-24 03:26:54 PM  

Kim Phuc now.
 
2004-11-24 03:27:07 PM  
Question for Firefox Farkers. I have it set to remember my passwords, and then Firefox asks me to enter my master password. What's the point of remembering the password then? Any way to get rid of that?
 
2004-11-24 03:28:54 PM  
iollow:

Napalm is a tool of war, just like guns, swords, F-14s, and even jeeps. Yet all those other things are acceptable.

But the intended purpose of napalm was to burn away dense vegetation (trees & stuff). It was never intended to be used as a weapon against humans.

It's a highly flammable, thick, oil-like substance that sticks to whatever it touches, and you cannot put out the flames. It burns contiunually until the fuel within it is exhausted.

I don't think the military intentionally used napalm on people, but certainly there were people who were inadvertently hit by it. And the thought of what this particular weapon can do to a person is just reprehensible. I'd imagine most people would prefer to be shot or blown up rather than be covered in burning napalm.
 
2004-11-24 03:28:57 PM  
RyanC829:

Question for Firefox Farkers. I have it set to remember my passwords, and then Firefox asks me to enter my master password. What's the point of remembering the password then? Any way to get rid of that?

Mine did that for a while too. Then it just started remembering my password. I have no Idea.
 
2004-11-24 03:31:06 PM  
I'm guessing those people weren't big fans of "Postal 2" either...
 
2004-11-24 03:36:44 PM  
Sheesh, I dunno where to stand on this one. It's a stupid ad, to be sure, but I think that would have been reflected in their sales.
 
2004-11-24 03:37:32 PM  
Chris Taylor: A lot of little firefights, ambushes, we drop a lot of bombs, then we walk through the napalm like ghosts in a landscape.
 
2004-11-24 03:43:13 PM  
That's it, I'm moving to Canada!

Huh, what?
 
2004-11-24 03:44:45 PM  
*riff* *riff* AGENT ORANGE! *riff* *riff* AGENT ORANGE! THE FIRE THAT DOESN'T BURN!

...Sorry, this thread made me think of that. \m/ points to whoever gets it. Without Googling. :p
 
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