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(Some Guy)   Boston to track beer kegs and supply information to local police to determain where college parties are being held. Police cars now being equipped with taps and potato chips   (thebostonchannel.com) divider line 99
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2004-11-23 11:35:53 PM
Is your name Quayle?
 
2004-11-23 11:44:05 PM
*shakes little angry fists at Itsallmyfault*

I wanted to say that!!
 
2004-11-23 11:48:04 PM
I wanted to put his picture up!
 
2004-11-24 12:06:09 AM


Boston appoints keg tracking task force.
 
2004-11-24 12:16:50 AM
The "e" is for "e"xtra funny!
 
2004-11-24 12:20:39 AM
Can't they just tag and release the whole Kennedy clan?
 
2004-11-24 12:28:34 AM
Ku_No_Ichi: *shakes little angry fists at Itsallmyfault*

I wanted to say that!!


And out of frustration you had the spelling corrected?

*fingersnap* *headbob*
 
2004-11-24 12:32:36 AM
Boston police would know by 5 p.m. each day where all the kegs were going, and then if problems erupted at parties officers would know where to go.

Huh? Police get some mysterious information about a "problem" and they don't know where, but luckily they have a list of keg sales handy to quickly deduce where to go?

If a problem erupts at a party, you know where the party is. It's just a way that police can preempt and control those dang college kids.
 
2004-11-24 12:34:56 AM
What authority would any law enforcement agency have to mandate beer suppliers cough up this information to them? Last time I checked, this kind of thing required a subpoena.
 
2004-11-24 12:35:39 AM
Why do people STILL think prohibition actually worked?
 
2004-11-24 01:59:57 AM
Virginia did this back when I was in school. Law took effect on Wednesday. Tuesday night, parties had kegs. Wednesday night you saw peple carying dozens of cases to parties.

Don't people have anything better to do than come up with
stupid laws?
 
2004-11-24 02:10:54 AM
It's already done in New York State.
 
2004-11-24 02:16:04 AM
They wanted to do this at the University of Iowa. Luckly, the city council realized that even they would have to register their keg if they ever wanted to get one. Never passed.
 
2004-11-24 02:16:12 AM
*determine
 
2004-11-24 02:19:00 AM
All liberal states should be doing this soon. California is next I bet.
 
2004-11-24 02:19:09 AM
Welcome to the college of the future: Police State.
 
2004-11-24 02:20:48 AM
Why are kegs so attractive to people in the first place? Buying buy the 30-pack is barely more expensive. Can anyone really say they taste a huge difference between keg beer and canned/bottled beer?
 
2004-11-24 02:25:07 AM
For the record:

In Boston, it's illegal to deliver a keg to an educational institution's property.

And yes, it is illegal for seven women to reside on the same lease/property. Go ahead. Ask why.
 
2004-11-24 02:28:50 AM
Oh it's so on... I'm going to register a PO box in the back bay, and use that as an address for getting kegs. That ought to skew their investigations just a tad. Besides, it's not like there's anywhere left in the city that isn't infested with college students. C'ept for maybe LA or brighton...
 
2004-11-24 02:29:16 AM
bmihura: All liberal states should be doing this soon. California is next I bet.

Oh for crying out loud! What does this have to do with liberal states? If anything it will probably end up coming to South Carolina of all places, home up until recently of the mini-bottles.
 
2004-11-24 02:31:17 AM
INeedAttention.com

Kegs are cheaper (a lot cheaper in some circumstances), you actually get your deposit on a keg back(stupid iowa), and it is much easier to have, say, 10 kegs at a party than have 50 30-packs with 1500 cans sitting around.
 
2004-11-24 02:31:49 AM
NY already makes you put a 80 farking dollar deposit down on kegs; it's really ridiculous.
For home bar people like me /kegerator It's like 80 bucks gone because it will always be on file at my distributor.
/stupid NY beurocracy
//goes and gets fresh (Paulaner) beer out of Kegerator to make himself feel better
 
2004-11-24 02:32:36 AM
Sketch,HOLY SHIAT, I just saw your profile, I met a friend of yours at the last MIT Flea. When is the damn thing coming out, and how was the showing in CA?
 
2004-11-24 02:32:50 AM
So wasteful and puritan. Someone, somewhere, needs to be slapped.

repeatedly
 
2004-11-24 02:33:17 AM
I went to college at the university of Idaho where this was a common practice. You had to fill out a bunch of paperwork to get a keg, you couldn't take it out of the county, and had to provide the address where the keg would be. You could always count on the cops showing up at least once if not more saying there had been complaints. Even if you had three dudes watching a hockey game drinking casually from the keg in their personnal kegerator making no sound other than the low volume of the TV while frat boys drinking canned beer were blasting an air raid siren two houses away the cops would come to the house with the keg because of noise complaints. Needless to say I only was a part of two keg purchases in that town before i had seen enough of that. I'm sure the cops really dig it though, with any luck the person that answers the door at the keg's new home address will be stupid enough to invite them inside and open themselves up to all manner of hassle. Cops are like vampires, once you invite them into your house, you are powerless against them.
 
2004-11-24 02:35:10 AM
ToeCutter, kegs are expensive. If you didn't put a deposit down you could just get a different keg every time and sell the empty ones. They can fetch you some cash if you want.
 
2004-11-24 02:35:32 AM
American Police are all on power trips. Most, especially in no crime areas, just sit around harassing kids.

Asking to search cars of people hoping to find half a joint. This whole stupid police state has to go, this is why Europe is so much better. They arn't backwards and moronic by breaking up parties that kids will always do.
 
2004-11-24 02:36:25 AM
Screw beer. Gimme hard liquor. My liver needs to look like Abe Vigoda's nut sack by graduation or else I lose a bet.
 
2004-11-24 02:38:06 AM
Because we really party hard at MIT.
 
2004-11-24 02:38:15 AM
If problems erupted at parties officers would know where to go.

Because if trouble erupts somewhere, police currently have no way of finding it.

The hard-hitting WCVB-5 news team, converting oxygen to carbon dioxide 24/7.
 
2004-11-24 02:39:24 AM
wow, they only sell beer in kegs? Oh wait they dont farktards. Were the youth of america, we figured out how to get beer when we were 16, now well figure it out again.

Looks like the frats will just have each legal brother go buy two cases at different stores across the city. Problem solved. Fark the police.
 
2004-11-24 02:43:42 AM
ConservativeZeitgeist:

American Police are all on power trips. Most, especially in no crime areas, just sit around harassing kids.

Asking to search cars of people hoping to find half a joint. This whole stupid police state has to go, this is why Europe is so much better. They arn't backwards and moronic by breaking up parties that kids will always do.


-Are you kidding me? You'd get the exact opposite of what you want by going to Europe. You have more protections regarding search and seizure here than you do in Europe. College parties aren't broken up in Europe because the drinking age in most European countries is 18 or lower.
 
2004-11-24 02:46:02 AM
I'm not a police officer, but I have met a few at some college parties. ( was never officially arrested, just told that I "couldn't go home just yet" )

They always gave me the impression they didn't have much trouble finding the place. Even when we didn't have kegs.

Maybe the 4 freshman passed out on the lawn, the loud music, the fire code violations of sheer number of people, the fights, yelling, and general drunken debauchery gave it away that there was a party goin' on.

/hindsight is always 20/20
 
2004-11-24 02:48:31 AM
Uh...heh...a few years ago, maybe 5, we had our pledge marshall take a buncha pledgies to the beer store and then they got stopped by the cops.

They (cops) had all our pledges (4) take the kegs (10) up to some third floor office or something with a walk-in or a big chest fridge or something. In return, it didn't get written up. (I dunno, I wasn't with them.)

We had an emergency meeting to collect another 500 bucks so we could still throw our party that night. Problem solved.
 
sib
2004-11-24 02:52:14 AM
College kids in Boston are generally pretty bright, it wont take long until they realize they can just go to cambridge and buy their kegs without registering them.

I spent 3 years at UMass Amherst buying kegs in Hadley (who didn't give shiat whatsoever). Hadley is roughly 30 yards from the UMass campus.

You hear me UMass folks? buy your kegs at Liquers 44 (just stay away from the vodka)
 
2004-11-24 02:53:03 AM
Why is everyone woried about kegs? Just make your own. All you need is duct tape, sugar, yeast, 15 - 2 liter bottles, some glass cups, a sink, a stove, an old pressure cooker, and 50 feet of vinel tubing. Put all that together correctly and you have your own moonshine.

/Nothing like having alcohol that is more flamable than gasoline.
//Waits for the police to require registration on all that stuff.
 
2004-11-24 03:00:51 AM
they already do that in OREGON. down with OLCC.
 
2004-11-24 03:02:10 AM
Recent rioting after professional sporting events also has authorities concerned. After a Red Sox victory in October, rioting led to the death of Emerson College student Victoria Snelgrove and more than 40 arrests, all of them college students. No student has been expelled.

Didn't the police kill her? Perhaps we should be keeping them away from these events.
 
2004-11-24 03:09:00 AM
2004-11-24 02:38:06 AM benjo

Because we really party hard at MIT.


How was Steer Roast this year? Do they still have the Bose sound cannons hooked up so you can hear it on the other side of the Charles?

/Former MasterBaster
 
2004-11-24 03:09:04 AM
adr4200

Didn't the police kill her? Perhaps we should be keeping them away from these events.

Your right we should protect ourselvs from the police. Not allow them within 1/4 mile from any gathering of people.

Sadly it's true, police today are more trigger happy than the ATF was at Waco.
 
2004-11-24 03:11:12 AM
HOLLY FARK, what am I doing up at 2:11AM. Night everyone.

/ZZZZZZZ
 
2004-11-24 03:20:49 AM
Yeah here's what happens when you exercise your 2nd Amendment rights. Who knows what could go down at a kegger?

Waco
 
2004-11-24 03:23:22 AM
INeedAttention.com: Why are kegs so attractive to people in the first place? Buying buy the 30-pack is barely more expensive. Can anyone really say they taste a huge difference between keg beer and canned/bottled beer?

After you get the 10 deposit back for an empty keg, using it and all the beer inside only costs about $20 for Beast (Milwaukee's Best) or Beast Ice.

1 keg=something like 7.5 cases-worth? of beer. Cheapest case of beer I know is, hey! Beast, 9 bucks in my area, 7 down by campus.

Beer out of kegs tastes much better, esp. when you can ensure that said kegs have been sitting in a nice cold walk-in 32 degree F keg box for a day, or shipped straight from the beer stores' walk-in coolers.
 
2004-11-24 03:31:41 AM
Kegger = word gets out and stupid freshmen/people you don't know start showing up. At my last keg house party last year, we had two people show up at 10 PM - party time here is usually strictly 11, kids - who no one in the house knew. They heard about it from "someone in their English class".

Heh. Kinda got freaked out that we'd get raided and get a noise violation/have to buy another keg, but everything turned out alright. I'm all down for the crazy huge word-of-mouth parties, but only when I can afford it.

Last one the ex-roommates had, the off-the-street folk were pretty easy to spot - the whole place was gay boys and art/humanities students ('cept for yours truly) and they were both the only frat boys, and the only Republicans at the whole place.

Hard Alcohol Martini Party = classy = same price as kegger = decent bar with the leftover alcohol instead of getting drunk during the football game the next day with the getting-warm alcohol.

Also, lots of marchino cherries for months to come. Damn Gordon Food Service and their vat of cherries I thought I'd go through. They did have classy plastic cups for cheap, though.

/The more you know
 
2004-11-24 03:38:19 AM
One more fun get away from cops idea, although not my own, unfortunately:

There was a block party on a street my friends had a house on. The student-ghetto-ish street the cops love to cruise down every 5 minutes even when it's a weeknight. So they close their door, lock it, and sit on the porch with their drinks. Cop comes by and tries to find someone who lives in the house to give a noise violation to, but no one will own up to actually living there - they're just sitting on the porch. I'd imagine they were the only house not to get one.

I had a fun little conversation once with a cop who barged into acquaitence's house (same street, different year) without knocking, saying why, etc. I was pretty sober and bored (and 21 at that, so go ahead and ask for my ID) and pissed off. They can't come onto private property unless you let them in, kids. Although they can serve noise violations and the like.

The ACLU has great phamphlets on the subject, and also notices to put by the door for partygoers (don't let cops in, get someone from the house to open the door if they knock, etc, etc). Good work, my civil liberties lovin' friends.

I wonder how much bribing it would take to get the liquor store guy to just sell you a keg without getting it registered. I bet not alot. The guy who owns a liquor store my friend works at sells to underage sorositutes as long as they flirt with him.

/sigh, college
 
2004-11-24 03:40:02 AM
Actually, they don't need to register kegs in California. They banned keggers on campus when I was a freshman at UC Santa Cruz many years ago. Which simply meant we all bought cases of beer instead. I'm sure the same thing would happen elsewhere.

Long island iced tea party = need to have a bartender who stays semi-sober. Which means at least one or two people at the party still have a brain if trouble does start...
 
2004-11-24 04:10:37 AM
Just give them a different address than the party is occuring at.
 
2004-11-24 04:13:22 AM
Smed:

ToeCutter, kegs are expensive. If you didn't put a deposit down you could just get a different keg every time and sell the empty ones. They can fetch you some cash if you want.

This is not true, at least in NY. There's always been a deposit required for a keg, but until recently it was much more reasonable. Certainly not near the $75 they require now.

Additionally, which is relevant to ToeCutter, if you don't return your keg within 30 days, your deposit is technically void. However, this is not regularly enforced so it shouldn't be a problem to get it back.

Also, how much do used kegs sell for? Last time someone said they sold for a bunch I tried to look around (on eBay for example) and I couldn't find anyone selling.
 
2004-11-24 04:17:26 AM
Isn't it a violation of human rights and privacy to tap into people's purchases like that?

This is exactly why America isn't the land of the free, but rather the land of slavery and violation of human rights.
 
2004-11-24 04:25:18 AM
You see... in Canada beer is easier to get, served in higher volumes per container (14ounce bottles), and has higher alcohol content.
 
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