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(MSNBC)   If calling Colin Powell an "Uncle Tom" doesn't get you fired, give calling Condoleezza Rice "Aunt Jemima" a shot   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 819
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2004-11-19 02:06:29 PM
Still waiting on the NAACP to comment on these...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/uclickcomics/20041116/cx_po_uc/po200 41116

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2004/db040407.gif

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111704/content/eib_extra.guest.htm l

No excuse for this crap in this day and age. You believe it, fine. Your right fine, but it's my right to call you a Asshat!
 
2004-11-19 02:06:44 PM
I think the solution to problems like this is to let our commenters be anonymous, like fark moderators.

That way, nobody will know who to blame when someone says something unkosher, just like nobody knows exactly who is tilting Fark dramatically to the right.

Most recent links not approved:
2004-11-19: Third increase in federal debt limit since Bush took office narrowly approved by Congress. Fiscal discipline surrenders
2004-11-19: Third increase in federal debt ceiling since Bush took office narrowly approved by Congress. Fiscal responsibility surrenders
2004-11-19: Party of fiscal responsibility votes to raise debt ceiling, again. Your debt asplode
2004-11-19: The party of fiscal responsibility passes an $800 billion hike in the debt limit. Your children surrender
 
2004-11-19 02:06:51 PM
I'd hit it!
 
2004-11-19 02:07:05 PM
Question.

I know "Uncle Tom" is a servile black, but what is an "Aunt Jemima"? Is it the female equivalent, or what?

Just wondering.
 
2004-11-19 02:07:24 PM
He's a braver man than I am. Condi has mad eyes. I wouldn't want to upset her.
 
2004-11-19 02:07:34 PM
As Immortal Technique put it...

"Condoleezza Rice is just a new-age Sally Hemmings"
 
2004-11-19 02:07:36 PM
Stopheles

Thanks for reminding me of that book. I keep saying< "I ought to get that," and then not doing so.

/puts it on order now
 
2004-11-19 02:07:46 PM
...unfortunately loves to see regressives slug it out...

and a merry wharever...
 
2004-11-19 02:07:58 PM
This is nothing more than some lazy, fat ass radio dj trying to get some publicity. First of all Dr. Rice is an extremely intelligent person. Secondly I never inferred anything that would allow me to believe she was a pawn or only chosen because she was black.

In any event I have Sirius now. I got so tired of listening to radio dj's spout at the mouth like they are foreign policy experts or what not. The whole lot of them can go to hell.
 
2004-11-19 02:08:02 PM
Beatle_Matt wrote:

I am sick to death of blacks getting upset every time someone says ANYTHING derrogatory against them.
I mean, they'll even gang up on Bill Cosby for crissakes for doing nothing more than telling the truth.
...but its alright for the Wayans to make "White Chicks". What if a couple of white guys made a movie called "Black Chicks"?
Phucking double-standards man.

---------------------------------------------------------

It wasn't called "Black Chicks" it was called "Soul Man".
Just sayin'.
 
2004-11-19 02:08:05 PM
Stopheles

Thank you! I totally forgot to mention that when bringing up the book, as a part of the reference to the term.
 
2004-11-19 02:08:06 PM
odd but I have actually laughed out loud in this thread. Usually i avoid these type(race)like the plague.
 
Ant
2004-11-19 02:08:23 PM
2004-11-19 01:12:38 PM mialynneb [TotalFark]

Do they want Chris Rock in office or something?


I'd be glad to have Chris Rock in Office
 
2004-11-19 02:08:39 PM
Son of Thunder: More proof that liberals can't stand successful black conservatives.

A ha ha. A ha ha ha ha ha. God you're funny.

And 100% correct.


Statements like that make me want to hate conservatives of every color. Luckily I have enough of a brain to see through the convenient stereotypes and assess the individual as an individual.
 
2004-11-19 02:09:12 PM
Guerilla_Sutra

That link is funny as hell, I forgot all about that site. The e-mail section (or whatever) is the best.
 
2004-11-19 02:09:32 PM
Big_B

Which is amusing, and hypocritical, and shows the power of the Democractic spin machine to keep so many minorities in their pockets... historically it has been Republicans that appoint more minorities to positions of power than Democrats.
 
2004-11-19 02:09:39 PM
"Aunt Jemima" - what a lot of crap. Not that one expects a lot of intelligence or integrity from a talk-radio blatherer, but still...

It is a fact that Condoleeza Rice is a pathological liar, a professional perjurer, a war-mongering piece of shiat. But what is the relationship between this fact and the mere contigency that she happens to be black, and a woman? Would her disastrous faults of both character and performance somehow be more forgivable were she a standard-issue GOP rich white man?

It's as if you told me you feel that, say, Osama bin Laden is a bad, bad person - a not-unreasonable conclusion in and of itself, I think, and most people (well, most Americans, at least) would agree - and the primary source of your discontent is "he is tall and has brown eyes. God damned brown-eyed tall people! Scum! Hate 'em all!"

WTF?
 
2004-11-19 02:09:40 PM
Someone answer hollyholly's question about Aunt Jemimah. I'm out of time,a nd I only know as far as the basics of the syrup lady.

Bye!
 
2004-11-19 02:09:41 PM
How things have changed. Judging from this message board, it is more than clear that the far left has no problem with racism if the target in question does not fall in lock-step with the liberal platform. Why not go ahead and call her Dr. Rice an Oreo, and complete the trifecta?

Racist farks. Enjoy you descent into irrelevance.
 
2004-11-19 02:09:45 PM
mrexcess

...just like nobody knows exactly who is tilting Fark dramatically to the right.

I know! I know! The vast right wing conspiracy.

/resistance is futile
 
2004-11-19 02:10:02 PM
More proof that liberals can't stand successful black conservatives.

I think what you mean to say is that liberals can't stand successful conservatives.

I know I can't.
 
2004-11-19 02:10:14 PM
So let me get this straight....

If a black man or woman attains a position of power in our country AND they weren't put there by a Democrat or a liberal then they aren't legitimate.


Condoleeza Rice is a Soviet specialist who EPITOMIZES a pre-9/11 mindset. Hell, she's got a pre-91 mindset. She received intelligence briefs warning that Bin Laden was determined to hit the U.S. soon, and did nothing about it -- took the warnings as "historical in nature." Even though the Clinton Administration gave the Bush Administration information about Al Qaeda and the Taliban during the transitional period, the Bush administration did nothing. It pulled its intelligence troops out of the Middle East, it cut anti-terrorism funding considerably, and it buried its head in the sand.

Condoleeza Rice is one of the people who shoulders responsibility for the Administration's inaction leading up to 9/11. For that reason alone, she is unqualified for the National Security Advisor position, let alone the position of Sec. of State. She isn't one for diplomacy (hates meeting with heads of state, has said so on public record) and THAT IS WHAT THE POSITION IS ABOUT.
 
2004-11-19 02:10:43 PM
as a liberal, I say this guy is a dumbass. taking issues and bottling them like that is wrong. doing it in a racist way is even more wrong. things require a lot of information and thought. not a couple words.

the dude's a racist.

/condi is still a biatch.
//also, she's lawful evil with a 3 wisdom score
///both colin and condi are republican (I hesitate to use thw word slave in this context) puppets
 
2004-11-19 02:10:48 PM
"Aunt Jemima"? Is it the female equivalent, or what?


A white serving domestic servent
 
2004-11-19 02:10:58 PM
Okay, I'm really interested in finding people's opinion on this, i'm not trying to flamebait:

If Aunt Jemima and Uncle Tom are figures who represent "undesireable" black roles, who would their equivalents be for white people? Who's the whitest white person, someone who's name white people wouldn't want to be called?

I'd really be interested in hearing people's thoughts.

/could be me for all i know
 
2004-11-19 02:11:25 PM
KarmicHoax

historically it has been Republicans that appoint more minorities to positions of power than Democrats

They're just looking to up their "street cred".

/sarcasm
 
2004-11-19 02:11:27 PM
Diogenes

So...what black conservative do you like?
 
2004-11-19 02:11:28 PM
How was Colin Powell kissing Bush's ass?
All I've heard is that Powell disagreed with Bush on Foreign Policy and was sidelined because of it. NPR described Colin Powell as a person who puts his country first and disliked the partisan ways of the administration. Rice on the other hand agrees with Bush and won't rock the boat.
 
TV
2004-11-19 02:11:31 PM
untrustworthy

We can do everything possible to try to make ourselves safe, but no matter what, bad things will still happen. Hindsight is 20/20, so don't act like the attack could have been easily predicted.

The Al Qaida plans for Operation Bojinka were discovered in the Phillipines in 1995, so it was known at that point that a plan to hijack planes and crash them into strategic targets was in the pipeline. The deal went down under her watch, she should have been fired along with a hell a lot of other people in the Bush administration and at NORAD who failed to do their jobs.
 
2004-11-19 02:12:11 PM
If Aunt Jemima and Uncle Tom are figures who represent "undesireable" black roles, who would their equivalents be for white people? Who's the whitest white person, someone who's name white people wouldn't want to be called?

There isn't really one, since white people can't exactly "sell out".

I suppose the closest equivalent would be "wigger".
 
2004-11-19 02:12:37 PM
Boy, did this guy miss the boat. If anybody needs a moniker, it's Clarence "Uncle" Thomas.

Yassir, massa Scalia, that there sho nuff is a fine vote.


Right. Because a federal judge who sits for life really has to kiss ass to keep his job.
 
2004-11-19 02:13:11 PM
She's smart, she's cute. she is well spoken
She's even been well White House broken
She moves with ease among the fundies
Wearing red white and blue undies
I have a pair, she's continent
A shame she's so incompetent.
 
2004-11-19 02:13:24 PM
THX 1138

That's an awesome question.

If this thread is still running when I get back on to look, I'll see if I can't offer some names for you.
 
2004-11-19 02:13:34 PM
Ahh, the compassion of the liberals!
 
2004-11-19 02:13:37 PM
Arcadian Refugee

I'd also recommend LIES ACROSS AMERICA, his book on public monuments that commemorate things that didn't happen, and sites of major events that aren't commemorated at all. In some ways, it's even more interesting a book, because you see how these falsehoods and omissions are accepted as part of the local flavor of various areas.
 
2004-11-19 02:13:47 PM
SweetlyKali

It is racist because you wouldn't call a white woman Aunt Jemima, nor would you call a white man Uncle Tom in the same manner. It is racist because it IS!
 
2004-11-19 02:13:53 PM
Best headline ever. Too bad the credit has to go to the DJ instead of the submitter, but there you have it.

/second the hero tag motion.
 
2004-11-19 02:13:57 PM

:-)
 
2004-11-19 02:14:00 PM
[i]Linda Hoskins of the NAACPs Madison branch said she could not comment on Sylvesters remarks until she had heard them in their entirety.[/i]

I gotta admit, this is pretty level headed for the NAACP. I respect that they are willing to hear the use of these remarks in context before commenting.
 
2004-11-19 02:14:13 PM
Hang On Voltaire

My premise was that Americans as a group will only vote for African Americans or women as long as they are Republicans. In a presidential election, the country as a whole is all that matters. Regional and state elections are a whole different ball game. Who do seriously think would win in a bid for president - Hillary Clinton, or Elizabeth Dole?
 
2004-11-19 02:14:38 PM
How was Colin Powell kissing Bush's ass?

I don't know. There's the whole "let's go before the UN and tell them exactly where the weapons are, so that when we win the war and discover nothing, we can look foolish" thing... I think that's something Powell should have said no to.
 
2004-11-19 02:14:57 PM
THX 1138

Slick Willy.

Actually, this is so easy: Our culture and world and society are filled with negative "white" steroetypes

Simon Legree
Scrooge
Hitler
Shylock
Slick Willy
 
2004-11-19 02:15:06 PM
If Rice and Powell are token blacks of the republican party, then are Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and every black church a Democrat campaigns in the token blacks of the democrat party? Other than being the rent-a-riot for the democrats, what have the good reverends done? Everyone was proud of Clinton's cabinet "looking like America", but when Bush picks a cabinet more diversified than he had, the minorities in it get slandered and put down as tokens to the man.Black, hispanic, female....if you don't support the left's agenda, then you are evil. God himself could not appear on earth as a blackman and a republican without critics on the left putting him down.

/? Are Charlize Theron and Dave Matthews african-american?
 
2004-11-19 02:15:27 PM
I stopped reading after "Radio show . . ."
 
2004-11-19 02:15:29 PM
This should help out about now:

http://aztlan.net/oiltanker.htm
 
2004-11-19 02:15:31 PM
The liberal implosion continues...(snicker)
 
2004-11-19 02:15:39 PM
This is what makes freedom tough folks. Defending free speech you agree with is easy. Defending this guy's right to be an asshat is hard. Really hard. He has a right to his crappy opinion just like you and I do. I'll get off my soap box but the irony of our current situation is that Madison, Jefferson and Jay gave us the solutions 275 years ago. Defend your Constitution- even when it hurts!

/I appreciated the post bluddy.
 
2004-11-19 02:15:56 PM
Stop it! Stop it all! You can't criticize Ms. Rice at all for any reason what-so-ever...you'll just be called a racist, and they'll kick in sexist, too.
 
2004-11-19 02:15:59 PM
Bludstone

Don't listen to untrustworthy. I'm not sure why. Its just a gut instinct.
 
2004-11-19 02:16:43 PM
Ahh, the compassion of the liberals!

Ah, the irony of watching Bush flaks play the race-card to defend imcompetance in their party. Do you also think that people who are horrified by Alberto Gonzales' record are only horrified because he's Latino? Are you familiar with the Left's problems with John "whitewhitewhite" Ashcroft and Donald "pale-pale-pale" Rumsfeld?
 
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