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(Washington Post)   US drops 24 year old pledge not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 93
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2002-02-23 09:42:49 PM  
Resistance is futile.
 
2002-02-23 09:43:38 PM  
Duck, and cover!
 
2002-02-23 09:45:33 PM  
Dats da bomb.
 
2002-02-23 09:45:41 PM  
Hooray, we're going back to the Cold War! Wee!
 
2002-02-23 09:45:48 PM  
Bush is gonna start WW3 if he keeps this up
 
2002-02-23 09:46:59 PM  
Of course, the only states we have used the bomb on were non-nuclear... so this isn't exactly a break in precedent.
 
2002-02-23 09:47:02 PM  
We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know whennnnn...
 
2002-02-23 09:48:09 PM  
The Winter Olympics was simply the prelude to the second Cold War. This will ignite it.
 
2002-02-23 09:48:35 PM  
Well really.. which would you, as an American prefer.. the U.S. nuking a nuclear state which would just nuke us back? Or a helpless puny country? Duh.
 
2002-02-23 09:49:27 PM  
I think his intention is to start WWIII.
 
2002-02-23 09:49:41 PM  
Darcius - The way I see it WW3 has already started, and they hit us first.
 
2002-02-23 09:51:57 PM  
Yes my child, once the Saharas consisted mostly of sand dunes not glass dunes.
 
2002-02-23 09:53:31 PM  
'They' being the world, of course, right bob?
 
2002-02-23 09:54:37 PM  
We're screwed. It will take a bit of waiting before we can make any more pledges. While it sorta hurts our credibility with the rest of the world.

But, screw them! they can't do anything to us! *rolls eyes*

RF
 
2002-02-23 09:58:26 PM  
What I'm worried about is our nation is slowly turning into a police state.
 
2002-02-23 09:59:00 PM  
First we pull out of the nuclear treaty with the Russians to allow ourselves to build the kooky "missile defense shield," then we declare nuclear-capable North Korea, democratically-governed Iran and Iraq (where our NATO allies have stated they won't assist us with military operations) to be part of an "axis of evil" and now this.

One foreign policy success after another!
 
2002-02-23 09:59:23 PM  
lol what prompted this?!?
 
2002-02-23 09:59:27 PM  
Bob from accounting--I haven't heard that said by anybody else but that is quite a prophecy.

I think the point of this statement is that the U.S. will likely want the option of treating a chemical or bio attack as not different in kind from a nuke. Makes sense to me...
 
2002-02-23 10:01:14 PM  
so.. if the US will nuke people who use bio weapons, where are the nukes for the Army of God?

RF
 
2002-02-23 10:02:06 PM  
You fools!

Think about it. If Iraq sent a pickup-truck nuke to say NYC, we would be more than justified in turning Iraq into a parking lot.

To all of those who are yet again blaming this on Bush: grow the fark up.
 
2002-02-23 10:02:34 PM  
Sorry Robbie, I don't get it. Honest. What does that mean?
 
2002-02-23 10:02:54 PM  
He's going to start World War 4! WW3 was last SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY, At Monster Truck Madness Tour 2002 only at the Jacobs Dome!!!

What is France's say on the matter?
 
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2002-02-23 10:04:09 PM  
hrm, i think the scarier thing is what would have to happen to america for nukes to become an option...like Louisville Slugger said.

the next time 'they' manage to hit us, they're gonna hit us HARD.

Luckily, the US is the only country in the world that makes war on innocent civilians.../sarcasm
 
2002-02-23 10:06:31 PM  
If his intention was to send potential enemies the message "Don't fark with us, because we are insane!", he may have succeeded.
Of course our allies probably have a different take.
 
2002-02-23 10:06:39 PM  
Randyhalkings, you made me spill weetbix on my keyboard!
 
sec
2002-02-23 10:08:14 PM  
the US could take on all 3 of these shiat countries at the same time and win...it would take about a week to nuke iran and iraq into one big sheet of glass, and korea? please...

bottom line, USA against anybody = USA wins.
 
2002-02-23 10:09:55 PM  
Has anybody read of Russian Command and Control being vulnerable. IE that some group could force a launch via cyber attack or infiltration? Pretty scary thought.
 
2002-02-23 10:10:58 PM  
Sec that maybe so, but you dont think you could suffer incredible casualties by making such a move? Or are u only using your left nut to think with?
 
2002-02-23 10:11:46 PM  
Yeah, Sec, let's irridiate the world and coincidentally kill tens of thousands of people in nations allied to us with the fallout. That will teach those gooks and towelheads you don't mess with the good ol' U S of A!
 
2002-02-23 10:12:22 PM  
ha ha, that Bush.. what is he, on crack!?!?!

What with the protecting of our freedom and the defense of our borders and the not taking crap off foreign dictators like Clinton, who had the good graces and social skills to politely ignore American casualties... what a dolt. I bet Bush doesn't even cheat on his wife!!!!!!!
 
2002-02-23 10:15:01 PM  
Louisville Slugger:

One of the suspects in the Anthrax mailings was whacked out Christian groups (i.e.: the Army of God). Of course, a whacked out Christian being Attorney General isn't deterring him from investigating this lead! *sarcasm*

As for Russian Command and Control being vulnerable to a cyberattack prompt. Stop watching Wargames so much. :)

"USA against anybody = USA wins"

What about USA against China?

RF
 
2002-02-23 10:16:05 PM  
Did anyone really take that pledge seriously? Hi guys Ive built a big farking nuke but I promise I wont ever use it against anyone who cant nuke me back...
 
2002-02-23 10:17:24 PM  
"What about USA against China?"

I think the Russians, despite the fragmentation of the Soviet Union, can still heave about as much nuclear tonnage as we can. And Vlad Putin certainly isn't the peaceful friend of democracy we're supposed to pretend he is.
 
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2002-02-23 10:21:35 PM  
"Yeah, Sec, let's irridiate the world and coincidentally kill tens of thousands of people in nations allied to us with the fallout. That will teach those gooks and towelheads you don't mess with the good ol' U S of A!"

that's the spirit!
 
2002-02-23 10:21:43 PM  
"What with the protecting of our freedom"

Good joke there! It's sorta easy to miss, but of course Bush putting in that Patriot is gonna protect us so much!

"the defense of our borders"

For the record, wouldn't you say Bush isn't opposing the immigration and naturalization of Mexicans illegally living in the US? As for any other ways to protect our borders, unless Canada gets an attitude, our borders are save from a ground invasion.

"and the not taking crap off foreign dictators like Clinton"

Clinton, Clinton, Clinton! You sound like friggin' Jan Brady. Can you name one example of Clinton conceding to foreign dictators? (one note: Arafat doesn't count, unless you recongize Palestine)

"(Clinton) who had the good graces and social skills to politely ignore American casualties"

What evidence would you like to bring up that says Clinton ignored the terrorist attacks on the US. Just because he didn't storm into a country and shot off missiles like Yosemite Sam on speed doesn't mean he ignored anything.

"I bet Bush doesn't even cheat on his wife"

and this is relevant to Bush withdrawing from treaties, taking World Peace back 20 years and alienating our allies HOW?

RF
 
2002-02-23 10:21:53 PM  
Bush was heard saying in the oval office while he signed off on this. "Must preserve my precious bodily fluids. Must protect the purity of precious bodily fluids."

a cookie to who ever gets the reference.
 
2002-02-23 10:22:18 PM  
GMiscue: Not crack. Just regular cocaine. (Bush has done cocaine before, btw)
 
2002-02-23 10:23:54 PM  
Duh, Code_Archaeologist, I already used that reference in this thread!
 
2002-02-23 10:24:19 PM  
Code A: Dr. Strangelove, Jack D. Ripper.

Prinze: I'd say that China is more of a threat, since the Russians are not working with state of the art material for their nuke launching technology or anything.

I don't buy the whole "Putin is evil' sentiment that is expressed.

RF
 
2002-02-23 10:24:34 PM  
We can use nukes on non-nuclear states? Bush will start with Alaska and kill off all the wildlife and drill for oil, OPEC and PETA be damned.

Just a little humor at the expense of the wording of the headline. I suck.
 
2002-02-23 10:26:02 PM  
just an interesting side note to good ol georgys reputation.... during his run for presidency his main form of transportation was Enrons company jet. Oh and guess who's family fortune helped start bush's first oil company in the 80's, Bin Ladens (not Osamas) But another nice little note to all this, is how our politicians were, prior to all the shiat hitting the fan, trying to put an oil pipeline through taliban territory. Bush isn't exactly the brightest, and unfortunately it's looking more and more to me (now this is just my opinion) that he is getting a bit power hungry. damn, does that mean since I am not with him, I'm with the "evil" now???? I better let all that patriotism get shoved down my throat and appreciate having the right to be a free thinking american.

ok, my rant is done... just wanted to throw in some interesting ideas, do what you want with them.
 
2002-02-23 10:29:00 PM  
If you guys knew about some of the EXTREMELY CLOSE calls we have had with nuclear subs and the sort in the past decade or so most of you farkers would farkin poop in your pants. And I know cause Ive heard about alot of these close calls I got connections what with my nephew bein the USA's uncle n' all ;). Id rather just live my life, make peace with whoever I need to make peace with, try n stay good to myself n 2 others, and not worry about any kind of shiat relating to WW3. If its gonna happen its gonna happen, and theres not gonna be a farkin thing you or I can do about it, itd be like sitting around, worrying about how at any second our planet could be blown to shiatsville by a big ass meteorite...Ignorance is bliss my fellow farkarians, Ignorance is bliss.....
 
2002-02-23 10:30:41 PM  
I'd provide an informed reasonable argument in regard to this but... I'd rather sum it up with

WOO HOO

Now if we can just toss out that silly "we won't assasinate leaders" and I'll be ecstatic.
 
2002-02-23 10:30:53 PM  
Robbie, I was obliged to sift through a mountain of poli-sci documents on Putin for a paper last semester, and the information I came across wasn't reassuring: political opposition intimidated, the portion of the press not owned by the state harassed and raided when it aired opinions critical of the government, Putin overstepping the authority granted to him by the Russian constitution, etc. You can take a man out of the KGB, but you can't take the KGB out of the man.
 
2002-02-23 10:31:11 PM  
And I my friends, am about as blissfully ignorant as Im ever gonna get, me thinks.... Bring on the boobies and beer
 
2002-02-23 10:50:56 PM  
This means we can finally Nuke the Holy Land to end forver all the stupid fighting over who's religion is better!

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA.........
 
2002-02-23 10:54:15 PM  
The Communists cry as Bush voids an ILLEGAL treaty. The POTUS cannot make such treaties with other nations.

The Communists want America to be weak and not fight. They want America to be struck first from North Korea, China and Russia.

The next December 7th is coming. China will strike America first and they will strike and send in their men to ban Christianity and spread forced Communism thru America.

and none of you liberals will object to Communism, will ya?

EZE
 
2002-02-23 10:57:47 PM  
Emeril:"The Communists cry as Bush voids an ILLEGAL treaty. The POTUS cannot make such treaties with other nations.

The Communists want America to be weak and not fight. They want America to be struck first from North Korea, China and Russia.

The next December 7th is coming. China will strike America first and they will strike and send in their men to ban Christianity and spread forced Communism thru America."


Someone's got to get this guy's sitcom back and get him the hell off of the internet.
 
2002-02-23 10:58:04 PM  
Hoosier--Yea, then we can commence with the stupid fighting over whose country is better, then once that is over we can start fighting over what race is better, then if there's still anybody left, we can fight over..... Nuff said there will ALWAYS be something people have stupid fights over, people just like to blame religion because its the most prominent difference that causes wars at this present time. But if all religions were wiped out there would still be SOMETHING there always will be too.. so why dont you just relax, crack open a cold one and take a look at some boobies with USU
 
2002-02-23 10:59:28 PM  
(*) (*) sorry thats the best I can do :(
 
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