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2004-11-18 03:42:31 PM
I'll see your Tom Tomorrow and raise you a Ted Rall:

 
2004-11-18 03:42:52 PM
I dunno about THAT...

Andy Capp and Family Circle... rib-ticklers of the finest sort... cover the whole spectrum of real-life existence for most of us.

That Washington b.s., that's not our business... that's white man's business!
 
2004-11-18 03:44:38 PM
2004-11-18 03:25:13 PM albo
who submitted this headline? what a fool.
hello? over here *waves hand* actually read threads much?



Headline: "Doonesbury creator and 60s burnout Gary Trudeau to receive free-speech award. Accepting for him will be a floating horse's ass"



Exhibit B



"lampooning DAN QUAYLE"



Exhibit C



"lampooning GEORGE BUSH"




"Gary Trudeau"
 
2004-11-18 03:45:33 PM
I like Guy Gilchrist because he's obviously a Christian and loves our President.

Plus he draws little elves you can masturbate to.
 
2004-11-18 03:47:06 PM
The hardest part of Freedom is to to defend that which offends you, but is by itself an expression of that Freedom.

Or, to use something from a Movie:

President Andrew Shepherd:

America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've got to want it bad, because it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil who is standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the 'land of the free'? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the 'land of the free.'"

I can only add to that : Amen!
 
2004-11-18 03:47:21 PM
That "horse's ass" comparison wasn't very nice...

You weren't being fair to horses.
 
2004-11-18 03:49:30 PM
I wouldn't know white man's bizness either. I'm a gay latino eskimo into cross-dressing and nude tupperware parties. Family Circle just don't strike a chord, Nomesayin?
 
2004-11-18 03:50:39 PM
America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've got to want it bad, because it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil who is standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the 'land of the free'? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the 'land of the free.'"

And if you condemn this fraternity, aren't you condemning the entire fraternity system? And if so, isn't that an endictment of our entire university system, which is a fundamental representation of our American way of life?

Well... I'm not going to stand around here and listen to you people bad-mouth the United... States... of America!

/marches out, single-file, humming The Battle Hymn Of The Republic
 
2004-11-18 03:50:45 PM
2004-11-18 03:35:01 PM Lace Valentine
Betcha thought the guy that drew Marmaduke was going to win this award.


hell yes! marmaduke is on the cutting edge of world affairs AND its done with smarts and wit and (perhaps) most importantly, class. i mean come on! a big slobbering dog who jumps on everyone and doesnt listen to his owners! way stick it to the man, Brad Anderson (guy who draws marmaduke).
 
2004-11-18 03:52:01 PM
the_gospel_of_thomas

Those were funny, forgot about those. Thanks.
 
2004-11-18 03:52:39 PM
One thing for sure: Gilchrist knows how to draw a nice rack.
 
2004-11-18 03:53:01 PM
patkelly
I have to agree with that. I remember Trudeau absolutely crushing Carter during the inflation and oil crisis that he watched over. I remember his take on Clinton and Bosnia. Unfortunately, as with most artists/performers/public figures, it seems that only the latest production gets any attention. Trudeau draws satirical strips about government and society, regardless of the ruling class at the time. Finding his work humerous or not is still a subjective affair, and I think that he a bit more bitter than he has been in the past, which may prevent some from enjoying the comic.
Funny or not, saying it is not topical seems absurd.
 
2004-11-18 03:53:17 PM
I like Marmaduke... such a FUN comic! And Family Circle too...

/have kids of your own, then come back and let us know what you think is funny
 
2004-11-18 03:54:27 PM
Okay, so this was WAY up there, but someone asked who the Voltaire of our time was.

To this, I say:

Fark'ers.

Duh.

Voltaire wasn't a philosopher, nor was he an original thinker like Aristotle or, to some degree, Plato. He was a philosophe, someone who took what other philosophers were saying and re-worded it using magnificent sarcasm and eloquence. He, to put it basically, parroted what the real thinkers said and passed it around.

What he *didn't* do was pass it around as his. However, between then and now, people have come to assume it was his, and only the researchers know otherwise.

So, go us! We're the Voltaires of the era.

/got *something* out of her short college education, anyway
//history rocketh
 
2004-11-18 03:56:08 PM
And let's not forget the Master himself:

 
2004-11-18 03:56:50 PM
patkelly

Don't you get it? He found a comic making fun of Dan Quayle and another making fun of George W. Bush. Only an ass would dare question the Holy Republican Empire. It's treason!
 
2004-11-18 03:56:57 PM
patkelly

What's good for theis good for the
 
2004-11-18 03:57:09 PM
So, go us! We're the Voltaires of the era.

Actually, most of us are the Rosa Parks's of this era... we don't do nuthin' but sit our black asses down.
 
2004-11-18 03:58:19 PM
What's good for the goose is good for the duck with a head wound? What?
 
2004-11-18 03:58:33 PM
LoveInAction
Actually, most of us are the Rosa Parks's of this era... we don't do nuthin' but sit our black asses down.
Amen.
 
2004-11-18 03:59:18 PM
I like to think of myself as the Soupy Sales of the new millenium.
 
2004-11-18 03:59:31 PM
Don't you get it? He found a comic making fun of Dan Quayle and another making fun of George W. Bush. Only an ass would dare question the Holy Republican Empire. It's treason!

"Treason doth never prosper... what's the reason? When it does prosper, none dare call it treason!"
 
2004-11-18 03:59:54 PM
idunnothefilenamesayaganderandididntaskquestions ....
 
2004-11-18 04:01:30 PM
What exactly has that gander been charged with?
 
2004-11-18 04:01:32 PM
... we don't do nuthin' but sit our black asses down.

Hmm. Well, all right, so some of 'em are the Voltaires.

I'd be more like the forgotten person behind Rosa Parks going, "Don't get up, lady, you show 'em!" Or that guy behind Voltaire saying, "Wait, wait, so you're saying you told your little girl to jump off the stairs into pitch blackness and she did? Wasn't that someone else?"
 
2004-11-18 04:02:53 PM
I guess SweetyKali never saw Barbershop...

(sigh, another jest fallen flat!)
 
2004-11-18 04:04:20 PM
I guess SweetyKali never saw Barbershop...

Guilty!

Sorry.
 
2004-11-18 04:04:58 PM
Bloom County & Outland are the best multi frame comic strips of all time. Farside being of course the best single frame. Both guys got out wile they where on top. Doonesbury is still good sometimes, congrads to Gary on the award.
 
2004-11-18 04:05:49 PM
I like to think of myself as the Soupy Sales of the new millenium.

So how come every time I write 'F', you see 'K'?

/whitefang... now HE was funny!
 
2004-11-18 04:08:55 PM
Okay, for those of you who never saw Barbershop, one of the funniest scenes is where Cedric The Entertainer, as the old curmudgeony barber, waxes polemic (and it goes something like this)...

"There are three things black folks got to come to grips with... one, Rodney King deserved to get beat, for the way he drive... two, O.J. did it... three, Rosa Parks didn't do nuthin' except sit her black ass down."
 
2004-11-18 04:10:16 PM
As a side note to justanotherfarkinfarker's reference to The Far Side, I had the privilege of "working" with him when he was at the California Academy of Sciences doing something or another. Of course, I was only there because my mom was working there, and I was folding letters on the floor while Gary Larson talked "big people business" across the room, but I did work with him.

Technically.

/totally just dates herself
//...not in that way
 
2004-11-18 04:12:42 PM
Are you suggesting he doesn't make fun of liberals enough?

One can never be too rich... or too thin.
 
2004-11-18 04:14:17 PM
I've never understood how the guy that draws Mr. Boffo makes a living making cartoons. Garry Trudeau, though, he makes sense.
 
2004-11-18 04:17:54 PM
Oh, I forgot opus is comming back.

Hopefully this won't come true:

Breathed said at the time that cartoonists "die and go to cartoon hell for working beyond that magic intersection of art and fun."
 
2004-11-18 04:19:45 PM
I hate that a-hole I wish he'd go to Iraq and follow after one of his characters
 
2004-11-18 04:20:44 PM
I'm sure 1990's burnout Bruce Tinsley and his joke-free "Mallard Fillmore" cartoon will use this "news" for weeks to come.
 
2004-11-18 04:21:00 PM
Hmm.

I guess that depends on what you mean by 'liberal'. Do you mean the political party that is actually called 'liberals'? Or do you mean like how Democrats are called liberals by Republicans? Or do you mean the unwashed hippies with years-old dreds who can't be bothered to vote, just want some regime to biatch about?

Just curious.

Either way, no, liberals aren't remotely controversial enough to do a daily -- or almost-daily -- cartoon about, and expect it to be funny.
 
2004-11-18 04:22:03 PM
OMG OMG Submitter as a moran asshat who can't take a little joke!!! Garry is a freakin' genius, how dare you insult him!? Oh sure you get all bitter when someone makes fun of the guy YOU admire, but step back and have a sense of humor goddamnit!

(anyone notice a lot of folks here missing their own points?)
 
2004-11-18 04:23:26 PM
patkelly

Oh, Dammit! - I forgot to use a "shortbus" mentality
to respond to you so you can understand.

All of you Libs here are getting PISSY that
Gary Trudeau is being made fun of.

Trudeau likes to portray the people he dosen't like
as floating objects, and not human beings.

When submitter says that he's a Horses' Arse, and
turns the tables on the Tard, you all get your
collective panties in a bunch.

What a bunch of little crybabies you all are, unable to
take a joke.

Why don't you post a picture of Bush with a "Mission
Accomplished" sign - that's usually the best you can do.
 
2004-11-18 04:24:59 PM


I love Boffo. He goes hot and cold, but when he's hot, he's hilarious.
 
2004-11-18 04:25:16 PM
(anyone notice a lot of folks here missing their own points?)

That's what makes FARK... well, FARK!

/now WHERE IS that pic of Captain Obvious!
 
2004-11-18 04:25:45 PM
Tom Tomorrow:

Enlightened, humorous, insightful, RIGHT ON.

The dipshiats in this thread that condemn him, Trudeau or anyone who dares to call bullshiat on our stupid right-leaning society:

You'll never get it. You'll never understand why people love to taunt you and make fun of your kind.

You'll never have a brain. Face it.
 
2004-11-18 04:26:00 PM
the_gospel_of_thomas says: All of you Libs here are getting PISSY that Gary Trudeau is being made fun of.

Note the use of 'Libs', as in 'liberals'?

I rest my case.
 
2004-11-18 04:28:36 PM
Wait, I'm confused...

I took the headline to be a tongue-in-cheek homage to Trudeau. Was I mistaken?
 
2004-11-18 04:30:17 PM
Gee, ANNOYED seems... well, ANNOYED!

Tom Tomorrow:
Enlightened, humorous, insightful, RIGHT ON.


We come from two different worlds, you and I... mine has a thesaurus with CORRECT synonyms.
 
2004-11-18 04:31:13 PM
I took the headline to be a tongue-in-cheek homage to Trudeau. Was I mistaken?

I think that depends. Are you Republican, Democratic, Conservative-Republican, Liberal-Democratic, Independent Democratic, Independent, Conservative Christian, Fundamentalist Christian, Liberal, a witch, a hippie, a fundamentalist anything, a professor at an intellectual college, a politician, or an atheist?
 
2004-11-18 04:33:37 PM
SweetlyKali

I hear the term "NeoCon" used all of the time,

GOD DAMM You Libs got some THIN SKIN!

 
2004-11-18 04:34:07 PM
I would say the people who scream their heads off and start unfounded name-calling at a man who tells jokes about them are the ones who can't take a joke. The ones who say "why are you calling him a horse's ass?" aren't exactly the crybabies here. Sorry. I know it hurts.

Let's be fair here, mate... you can't have it BOTH ways!

/You can't squawk at the sqawkers for squawking without being a squawker yourself.
 
2004-11-18 04:34:48 PM
via the new Chick Track called "Squatters"
 
2004-11-18 04:35:12 PM
I've been following Doonesbury for a while, and I have to concur with that he's gone from being bipartisan to being a hatchet job on those with whom Trudeau disagrees. Remember that comic strip where he had President Bush say thanks to the terrorists for committing 9/11 just so his policies would be justified? That was just tacky, and I doubt he would have done it to the same degree if Clinton were the target.

He's also been following the Michael Moore school of thought by resorting to gimmicks, like when he offered a reward to anyone who could prove that Bush had been at that Alabama National Guard station back in his youth. Also there was the bit where he had a military character lose a limb in combat. I would appreciate it as an homage to those who have sacrificed so much in battle, except that in light of his recent track record, I can't shake the feeling that Trudeau used it only as a political tool to hammer Bush, with any intents of paying homage trailing a distant second. Same deal with Moore releasing that book of soldiers' letters expressing doubts about the war, supposedly because he cares about them, even as he says the following on his web site:

"Im sorry, but the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end."

This guy is telling us that he cares about our troops, even as he believes they must be sacrificed in some sort of medieval exchange of blood to appease God. And people call red-staters religious nutjobs.

I haven't seen similar incendiary quotes from Trudeau, so I won't convict him in such a manner, but at the same time, I can't tell whether he's being wholly genuine in that troops homage, either.

Congrats to Trudeau on the award, but I'll be sticking with my main man Hobbes, thanks.

 
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