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2004-11-15 02:24:37 AM
This article is worthless. Because it only takes into account the UNDERGRADUATE majors that employers hire undergrads for.

If you go into History/PoliSci/Phil ---> see you in lawschool.

Biology/Chemistry ----> Med School

An undergraduate business degree is pretty much worthless nowadays without an MBA.

And I can tell you for a fact that I see my fellow humanities people (history, phil, econ) excelling in first year law classes. History and phil people have the edge in classes like Property and Torts. Econ/business/finance people excell in contracts, especially stuff on the UCC.

So do what you want. But if you want a job outside of academia, get ready to go to Grad/Law/B-school.


Undergraduate degrees are the new HS diploma anyway.


/history major
 
2004-11-15 02:24:44 AM
For those of you asking what to major in, major in something you love. You'll be a lot happier in a job you love getting paid less than in a field you don't like making tons of money you don't have time to spend. College is a time to learn to structure your thinking, not just to learn a task you can use to make a living. If you go through college without taking classes that let you explore your world and help you find your place in it, you are wasting your time. There's more to life than getting a large salary. Explore politics, psychology, anthropology, sociology. EE means you can understand computers, but liberal arts means you can understand people, and unless you want to end up like the unibomber, your life will be defined by your relationships with the people around you.
 
2004-11-15 02:25:17 AM
Wait a minute.... I thought the economy was supposed to be like the great depression and that there were no jobs for college grad cuz of all the outsourcing...

Was I lied too? Who would ever say that?
 
2004-11-15 02:25:32 AM
microbiology here WAZZU
 
2004-11-15 02:25:47 AM
and the law students laugh. Maybe ya'll should consider a profession that doesn't even bother putting itself on lists of 'employability.'

Ya'll? I guess your JD will earn you some crazy cheese in Dothan, Alabama.
 
2004-11-15 02:27:47 AM
sirak Axolotl, so instead of smoking weed in college, you found that you could earn more peddling it?
/just kidding - couldnt help it when I saw the school
What business out of curiosity?


Actually I probably would have done better sooner selling weed, but since I've never smoked it I didn't think of it. I own a motorcycle dealership in Marin County, CA.

Really, I'm not bagging on Comp Sci folks because that's how I started my BA and most of them are bright people, but get out and see the world fer crissakes. Kiss a girl. Learn a foreign language, or teach your native tongue to others. Still be smart and make a good living writing code, but back away from the friggin' terminal for five minutes, won't you?
 
2004-11-15 02:27:56 AM
Anyways, all those degrees, except for maybe Marketing (the art of convincing someone they need something that they don't) and business admin, all those can be done as well by an Indian for 1/8th the price.
 
2004-11-15 02:28:48 AM
embowafa
/must. quit. thinking. about. women. must. study.

Easy... just come to WashU. Then you'll want to forget about the beautiful girls.
 
2004-11-15 02:29:17 AM
2004-11-15 01:35:40 AM stubblyhead

...alan greenspan's degree is in music, for god's sake.

Obviously you didn't major in Googlology.
 
2004-11-15 02:29:36 AM
embowafa

What college did you actually go to? never thought of it your way . . .

BFA - West Virginia University (populated by out-of-state PA/NJ/NY/MD students AND lots of hippie chicks)

MFA - Carnegie Mellon University (populated by sheltered nerds who want to try a walk on the wild side)

MA - Moscow Art Theatre (populated by lots of Russian chicks who want to marry an Americanski get the hell out of there)

Carpe diem, young man, carpe diem.
 
2004-11-15 02:29:48 AM
sirak

and the law students laugh. Maybe ya'll should consider a profession that doesn't even bother putting itself on lists of 'employability.'

Ya'll? I guess your JD will earn you some crazy cheese in Dothan, Alabama.


That's nothing. I've heard people use yous as the plural of you, and instead of saying ya'll, they say yous all.
 
2004-11-15 02:30:47 AM
2004-11-15 02:28:48 AM skyfire360


embowafa
/must. quit. thinking. about. women. must. study.

Easy... just come to WashU. Then you'll want to forget about the beautiful girls.


That reminds me of a song we used to sing about UW.

/almost miss band. dammit i must study! not read fark and eat ice cream and procrastinate!
 
2004-11-15 02:33:37 AM
Kent Brockman: "Things are not as happy as they used to be down on the unemployment line. Joblessness is not just for philosophy majors anymore."
 
2004-11-15 02:34:12 AM
Hey, non-poli-sci majors, poli-sci and economics are practically the same degree. Also, for entering a graduate program in Business/Econ/Finance/Law, a BA in poli-sci is a very strong credential. That's rather important, since a bachelor's degree in damn near anything is worth its weight in, well, paper.

/just saying
 
2004-11-15 02:34:48 AM
coachwdb:

It's that time of year to send in college apps. Time to recheck those wonderful female to male ratios.

/small towns suck. The only cute chicks without kids are high schoolers. KY apparently the #1 product sold around here
 
2004-11-15 02:35:00 AM
I'm two years through a four year conjoint BA/BMus (liberal arts & music). My only plan when I'm done is I'm going to go overseas and teach English in a whole lot of different places. ROK or PRC will probably be the first stop. The plan: fluent in 10 languages by age 30. I'm fairly close with French, half-way there with German & Spanish.

Then I can come back and set up a lucrative business in accent training for all the Chinese students who come here to study and can't get jobs because nobody can understand their English. w00t!
 
2004-11-15 02:35:41 AM
Skyfire

I got the title scholarship to the Olin school of Business at WashU. I still didn't go there. I knew better.

Haos

My argument was not that you can't work hard in organizations, but that you can come up with easy stuff to put on a resume.

If you're really spending that much time working for campus organizations and are that defensive about it, I pity you. Being able to party anywhere anytime is a beautiful thing. God bless business.
 
2004-11-15 02:36:31 AM
What the hell ... English major, Chinese minor. Grad school? Maybe. Go back to Beijing and perfect my Chinese? Maybe. We'll see.

All I know is, I spent 2 years of college in the bio program, and was never more miserable. If I had gotten that degree, sure, maybe I'd have gotten a job asap ... but Christ, would I be unhappy. Now ... we'll see ... but I'm a lot happier ...
 
2004-11-15 02:36:42 AM
wow its sad too see that biological science degrees are the lowest paid degrees considering i study my freaking ass of. I respect all degrees but damm microbiology is not easy. thank god i love it.
 
2004-11-15 02:36:51 AM
I wonder where degrees from Devry and University of Pheonix rank?

/dont have either... just curious.
 
2004-11-15 02:37:50 AM
preoccupo wrote:
"all of you 30-year old virgin comptuer science nerds can blow me. i would rather shoot myself while driving off of a cliff before I settled for a degree in bean counting or computer "science"

So by your own admission, you are not actually going to be USING your Poly-Sci degree are you? I mean, you are going to be a pilot, right?

Last time I checked, flying an airplane did not involve writing an essay on government policy or debating on minority issues in a classroom.

However, the last time I checked with my friend who just graduated with a COMPUTER SCIENCE degree, he was working for LORAL SPACE SYSTEMS. His job? He programs graphics for F-16 flight simulators. Probably the one you are going to train on.

By the way, have you ever stopped to think about how much computing power is actually IN the airplane you are about to fly.

Hell, all you're going to do is wiggle a flightstick and jabber on a radio. Woo hoo. You actually think that YOU are flying the plane! HAHAHA

The quick and dirty: Some engineer had to figure out how to translate your stick wiggling into a computer that manages flight physics while monitoring one-thousand in-filght sensors and balancing the engine output for two General Electric 20,000 lb.-thrust powerplants.

I like how you wrote computer "science" in quotes like that. It demonstrates you have very little knowledge of what actually needs to happen to get a modern airplane in the air. Good luck in flight school.
 
2004-11-15 02:38:04 AM
In summary, degrees don't mean squat, it's all about how much money can you make for someone else or how much can you make for yourself, preferably doing something you like getting out of bed for every morning.

Which is called marketing. Your mad skillz are nothing if you live in Minsk or Tierra del Fuego and no one knows you exist. Or even if you live in Chicago, but keep waiting for someone to say, "Young man, I like the cut of your jib; here's a million dollars". Carpe farkin' diem.
 
2004-11-15 02:38:31 AM
Rain_Maker says:
and the law students laugh.
----------------

We always do. Although I'm up at 130am on a sunday after doing 8 hours of reading and outlining...so we havent laughed last yet.

Although I can already see the killer instinct coming out in myself and formerly "non-competitive" classmates who went to sheeshy undergrads.

The only downside to lawschool is that they don't have any sort of beauty requirement. Going onto the main undergraduate campus and seeing those pert breasts makes me want to cry.
 
2004-11-15 02:38:37 AM


Just one word, PLASTICS.
 
2004-11-15 02:38:42 AM
Yea I am Currently A Highschool Senior taking Inflated Honors Courses and Enginnering classes at my local College as well,(Wasn't my choice) But, I would really like to go into medicine, Nursing or maybe the long long process of a doctor. I like working with people, and all those stupid tests say id be an ace for advertizing? Bah Humbug
Any farkers think of what i should look for in a major if i want to try and help humanity?

/Looking to go to SDS
// Looking for a way to weasel out of this enginnering gig
 
2004-11-15 02:39:07 AM
safeinsane:

it's because she's a woman.
 
2004-11-15 02:39:09 AM
Curtis1619
I got the title scholarship to the Olin school of Business at WashU. I still didn't go there. I knew better.

You are wiser than I, my friend. Oh yeah, you probably wouldn't have liked it anyway. With names like "Grade-B School", "Baby B School" and "B-school Pre-school", it's hard to respect a degree from there.

/An engineer's work is never done
 
2004-11-15 02:40:38 AM
Russian and East European Studies, minor in Architecture. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing after graduation, and I find that somewhat exciting.
 
2004-11-15 02:40:48 AM
I majored in French and minored in Spanish, but nearing the end of my degree, I've realized that those degrees in the north Texas region are quite useless, so I start my master's in Public Administration in January. Looking to Washington DC for a job. Being trilingual doesn't hurt either..
 
2004-11-15 02:40:51 AM
Actually I probably would have done better sooner selling weed, but since I've never smoked it I didn't think of it. I own a motorcycle dealership in Marin County, CA.

Really, I'm not bagging on Comp Sci folks because that's how I started my BA and most of them are bright people, but get out and see the world fer crissakes. Kiss a girl. Learn a foreign language, or teach your native tongue to others. Still be smart and make a good living writing code, but back away from the friggin' terminal for five minutes, won't you?


Thats cool.

Yeah, I took a comp sci class in high school. After seeing the type of people in there I dropped the class. I ended up getting a degree in microbiology and am in grad school now.
 
2004-11-15 02:40:53 AM
gayaamer sure don't get out much, do he?
 
2004-11-15 02:41:19 AM
preoccupo just got owned. Nice.

/please note I didn't use "pwned" or whatever the kids are saying these days
 
2004-11-15 02:41:38 AM
sheesh you need to get laid.

and if you'd rather tack away at a computer than fly a jet, more power to you.
 
2004-11-15 02:42:11 AM
2004-11-15 02:38:42 AM Yosha


Yea I am Currently A Highschool Senior taking Inflated Honors Courses and Enginnering classes at my local College as well,(Wasn't my choice) But, I would really like to go into medicine, Nursing or maybe the long long process of a doctor. I like working with people, and all those stupid tests say id be an ace for advertizing? Bah Humbug
Any farkers think of what i should look for in a major if i want to try and help humanity?

/Looking to go to SDS
// Looking for a way to weasel out of this enginnering gig


When you get to school, either change your major, or go in as what you want. Fark doing what everyone else says you should. Do what you want. I'm in theatre & computer science (who says you can't be paid for being insane?) and I love it. Do what you want, Fark what your 'rents have to say, and go after your dreams. I'm going after mine (no matter how illogical they are) and so should you. It's that's simple.
 
2004-11-15 02:42:15 AM
Skyfire

Are you talking about Washington University [in the state of Washington], or the private college in St. Louis with one of the 10 best b-schools in the nation? I'm referring to the 2nd.
 
2004-11-15 02:43:15 AM
Hell, all you're going to do is wiggle a flightstick and jabber on a radio. Woo hoo. You actually think that YOU are flying the plane! HAHAHA

The quick and dirty: Some engineer had to figure out how to translate your stick wiggling into a computer that manages flight physics while monitoring one-thousand in-filght sensors and balancing the engine output for two General Electric 20,000 lb.-thrust powerplants.


Gayaamer, so basically you are pissed that he is going to have all the fun?
 
2004-11-15 02:43:53 AM
Look, people: all I want is Hunter Thompson's job. Is that too much to ask?

/that, or video game reviewer for PlayBoy.
 
2004-11-15 02:43:57 AM
sirak
Yeah, I took a comp sci class in high school. After seeing the type of people in there I dropped the class.

For the record, I'm a closet comp-sci major. I hate the stereotype and would like to think I'm pretty damn far from it.
 
2004-11-15 02:45:58 AM
From your pic on your profile, skyfire360, I'd have to agree with you that you're pretty damn far from it.

/Cool pic
 
2004-11-15 02:46:02 AM
For the record, I'm a closet comp-sci major. I hate the stereotype and would like to think I'm pretty damn far from it.

I was debating whether to include "I'm sure not everyone in comp sci is like that" in my original post. I guess I should have.
 
2004-11-15 02:46:34 AM
sirak

Hey now, comp sci is like playing chess all day. The value is in the path, not in your fellow travellers. But as others have said, do what you love, because nothing sucks more than wasting your short short life grinding through med school or law school for the $ if you hate the subject.
 
2004-11-15 02:46:40 AM
coachwdb:

How did you get to go to the Moscow Art Theatre? Do you know Russian, or did you get that via a study-abroad thingie? That's something I've wanted to do for a while, except I know I think four or five words in Russki.
 
2004-11-15 02:46:42 AM
embowafa

If you're serious about applying to colleges, check this out:

http://www.wvu.edu/FutureStudents/Admissions/index.html

Great theatre department (trust me). Great computer science department. Always in Princeton Review's Top 10 party schools (if you care to partake). Could be the best 5-6 years of your life.

/it's not the length of your education, it's the width
 
2004-11-15 02:46:50 AM
Looks like I will be falling back on my IS minor when I graduate in may.

/English Literature Major with a double minor in IS and Film
 
2004-11-15 02:47:46 AM
Yosha--do you want to make sick money, and help people out?

I found this little gem on Salary.com:

The median expected salary for a typical Nurse Anesthetist in San Diego, CA 92129 is $125,163.


Your local rates may vary. It's even better than pharmacy school.
 
2004-11-15 02:48:58 AM
Theoretically high returns on working-stiff degrees will never be more important than the universal truth that the hottest chicks do humanities/social sciences.

/want to form a study group?
//Oh, is it just us?
///Let's go back to mine and talk structuralism over wine and Barry White records
 
2004-11-15 02:49:39 AM
What? No physics?!

I'll show you! I'll show you all! Soon you shall fear my leet physics skills!

/Got nothin'
//Except for some physics skills
 
2004-11-15 02:49:42 AM
I started in Biology, dropped out. Switched to Psychology. dropped out. Dropped out two more times. Invented a thing used in nanotech industry for processing computer chips. Dats dat.
 
2004-11-15 02:51:53 AM
mentallo69

wow its sad too see that biological science degrees are the lowest paid degrees considering i study my freaking ass of. I respect all degrees but damm microbiology is not easy. thank god i love it.

Same with math.

But, if you get a PhD and a good research going then you'll be rich. If you get a PhD then you're set for life too since you can teach, though the pay sucks but the workload is cool.
 
2004-11-15 02:52:38 AM
English and Poli Sci BAs with a minor in Computer Science.

Will soon be attending....Librarian school.

Yes that's right kids, $40,000 starting, all the benefits you can shake a stick at, high demand, plenty of government and private sector jobs, surrounded by nothing but books and computers, never gonna get outsourced. Oh, did I mention I can move to anywhere in the friggin coutnry since there isn't a corner on this earth that doesn't have a library down the block? They even take AMERICAN Library Association (ALA) accredited degrees in CANADA. You Canadian bastards can't handle the deweys and decimals apparently.

Fark you cocky business majors and engineers. I'm gonna get mine and love every minute of it! w00t!
 
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