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(ESPN)   Spurned a-hole athlete Maurice Clarett decides that, because he was treated unfairly, he will throw the Ohio State football program under the bus. Oh yeah, they gave him a bunch of free stuff, too   (sports.espn.go.com) divider line 213
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2004-11-09 12:04:21 PM
"We went through a yearlong investigation of our academic programs, everything that [Clarett] has to allege,'' Geiger said. "He vowed to me that he would do something to try to get us and this may be what he's trying to do. So he's on his own.

"We dealt with this guy [Clarett] for 18 months. I just hope you've checked into the background and history of who you're dealing with.''


Now that part I have very little trouble believing. Clarett sounds like a complete idiot.
 
2004-11-09 12:04:25 PM
Clarett is an amazing football player, but he is a selfish douche who is trying to bring other people down for his own mistakes. As great of a player he was, I really don't miss him too much.

/OSU student
 
2004-11-09 12:04:58 PM
This should likely have an "obvious" tag. I went to tOSU, and as much as I dearly love the Buckeye Nation, I suspect some things are rotten in the football program. I was in classes that some of the players rarely attended. Funny, they still passed. And reports of boosters plying the players with cars and money are nothing new; I'm almost certain the same thing happens at just about any Div. I school (can you say Chris Webber, anyone?).

That said, I think Coach T probably cleaned up the football program quite a bit. I was at tOSU during the Cooper years, and scandals were on the pages of the local papers almost daily. Personally, I would *love* to see college ball return to its purest state, without boosters and gambling and the like. But, it's going to take more than a coach and some NCAA sanctions to do it. How 'come you never hear about boosters getting arrested?
 
2004-11-09 12:05:10 PM
I hope his 15 minutes of fame are just about up. When and if he gets to the NFL I hope it is for squat. The whiney baby had a prefect life handed to him and he is intent on farking it up.
 
2004-11-09 12:05:48 PM
The thing is that everyone assumes a free education should be enough for the college athletes. Has anyone recently seen the graduation rates for D1 football and basketball programs? They're pretty low, which to me says that the college athletes do not care about education as much as we think they do/should. With all the money and publicity these athletes bring to the schools, I'm with Mr.Bungle at Work when he says that they should all get a stipend in addition to the free education.
 
2004-11-09 12:05:49 PM
At least at OSU they do this kind of shiat, and you know, win games.

Here at Minnesota we have to settle for impropriety and losing seasons.
 
2004-11-09 12:06:18 PM
I doubt that many NFL teams will give two craps about him right now. Would have to be a small market team who doesn't mind putting up with his antics.

If he can play, I don't think that most of the NFL teams would give two craps about his past. Ray Lewis, Ricky Williams, and whomever else are shining examples of the "put up or shut up" attitude taken by most pro sports teams.

You can probably disregard my statement however, because most of those draft experts and such don't think that he will be a very good NFL player.
 
2004-11-09 12:07:08 PM
Neuman:

maddox sucks monkey balls.

"How to Kill yourself like a Man." YAWN.

Boring, lame, not funny.
 
2004-11-09 12:10:09 PM
To all you people saying the athletes should be paid, I have this to say. Screw. You. Where do think that money comes from? The sky? No, it comes out of peoples tuition payments and in some cases from the government. When I was in college I couldn't say that I got a completely fair return on my investment, despite the fact that I earned a degree and an adequate education. I already knew my money was being wasted on crap like girl's softball. Don't rub it in my face by buying them dinner too. If anybody here has ever worked in a Division I athletic department before, you already understand that these athletes (especially ones in major sports) aren't suffering.
 
2004-11-09 12:11:29 PM
Wait, OSU gave this guy a tutor?!? That is a complete travesty... helping a student learn, and whatnot.
 
2004-11-09 12:13:19 PM
If I may play devil's advocate, why should student athletes be paid a stipend, when the vast majority of their counterparts work while in college? Is it because some of you feel that the time the athletes spend training/playing wouldn't allow them time enough for a work-study job? Just curious....
 
2004-11-09 12:16:34 PM
Just another example of why I like Duke football. Yeah, we definitely suck in the win/loss column (which admittedly is ALL that matters to most) but I like pulling for players that I know can actually read and write well enough to legitimately graduate from a major university. Plus, when the football career is done they don't have to resort to selling crack back in the hood to make up for the $6.75/hr at Wal-Mart.

/we don't have to worry about boosters filling their pockets - Mommy and Daddy take care of that.

/I know, I know..."Duke Sucks"
 
2004-11-09 12:16:42 PM
This kid is a real A$$hat, but I believe every word of it. I beleive he took the fall assuming he could come back, the team dropped him, so now he's dropping bombs. It's echoed by a few other players, so I'm guessing it is 100% true. This sheite goes on all the time at most schools, OSU was just a dumb for not paying off the one holding the whistle.
 
2004-11-09 12:17:42 PM
He should be a greeter at walmart.

Running a ball around is not impressive. I say give his money to alternative energy research.

Athletic/sports programs are a DRAIN on the nation.

/blue state
 
TV
2004-11-09 12:17:56 PM
Is it because some of you feel that the time the athletes spend training/playing wouldn't allow them time enough for a work-study job?

Under NCAA rules they're not allowed to work, because the boosters used to set them up with $20,000 a year jobs (for the star atheletes) that they didn't have to show up for. Basically the recruiting process was a bidding war. It still is.
 
2004-11-09 12:18:11 PM
Huh. At my school the Athletic department gave money to the rest of the school. They got it from legitimate boosters and alumni.
 
2004-11-09 12:18:34 PM
Leon didn't want no booster tossing his salad no how! college football is for dumbies anways.
 
2004-11-09 12:18:57 PM
Just another example of why I like Duke football.

Now that's funny.
 
2004-11-09 12:18:59 PM
which means...
MICHIGAN WINS!

/go blue
 
2004-11-09 12:19:56 PM
Bahaha.. The luckeyes finally got busted. Beautiful..
 
2004-11-09 12:21:48 PM
all this talk of a stipend is a bit of BS and wont solve anything.

as anyone here who has played D1 athletics on a full scholarship knows, athletes receive essentially a stipend in the form of "room and board money" already.

basically if the athlete is just there to play sports and doesnt care about acadmics why give him a scholarship at all?? just pay him the money to play and fark the education.
 
2004-11-09 12:23:19 PM
They're all guilty.

Clarett is a douche, and college football is deeply crooked. They deserve each other.
 
2004-11-09 12:23:40 PM
What are some of you people talking about?
He was a very important reason they won the championship. I remember him taking the ball away from a defensive player late in the game and thinking that play won OSU the championship. He's an ass but OSU doesn't win without him.
 
2004-11-09 12:24:05 PM
Clarett is overrated. He scored six of those TDs against Texas Tech and Indiana while against Purdue and Miami he had 52 and 47 yards respectively. For those of you who remember OSU that year, those were the two games they almost lost. He never proved he could play in the big games so they had to rely on Craig Krenzel. Krenzel even had more yards rushing (81yards with 2TDs) in the National Championship game than Clarett. And now Clarett has missed two years of competitive football. He can't be in game shape anymore, can he?
 
2004-11-09 12:24:07 PM
OSU program and fans here are rediculous and delusional. There are wealthy people here who will throw money at any sport OSU would have a chance of winning.

/live in columbus, 24 years and counting
 
2004-11-09 12:24:15 PM
oh and TV is right about the whole working thing violating NCAA rules
 
2004-11-09 12:24:18 PM
Just Ingnorant,

There's something to be said for being able to go to a Div 1A game and yell at the referee KNOWING he can here you. :)
 
2004-11-09 12:25:58 PM
I onced got lectured in class from a prof for calling an "athlete" a "ball-brained moron."

Why? He didnt know the molecular components of water. In a college biology class. I had to work with him. I complained to my prof "this guy doesnt even know the molecular component of water, he doesnt know h2o, hes a ball brained moron, and I dont want to work with him."

Prof gave me the lowdown that, in many parts of our life, we have to deal with farkING MORONS, and this was one of them. (basically, dolled up to not be offensive.)

Athlete wound up doing NONE of the work, spent the time dicking around with the lab equipment. I added a note to the lab report saying such.

Althete wasnt in the class 2 weeks later.

I got a B.

/nerd
 
2004-11-09 12:28:25 PM
Nothing gets me excited like an Ohio State-Michigan flamewar on Fark. Do it up, folks!

/Born and raised in Michigan
//OSU student
///Midterm in one hour
 
2004-11-09 12:28:45 PM
Regardless,

Clarett will be a high draft pick, make millions of dollars and could possibly turn out to be a superstar in the NFL. It certainly doesn't hurt him to tell his side of the story, especially now.
 
2004-11-09 12:29:28 PM
And once again no one really cares who much these spoiled babies cry as long as they entertain us on the cheap because the NCAA is basically a slave labor system of indentured servitude.
 
2004-11-09 12:29:52 PM
Under NCAA rules they're not allowed to work, because the boosters used to set them up with $20,000 a year jobs (for the star atheletes) that they didn't have to show up for. Basically the recruiting process was a bidding war. It still is.

TV -- I'm aware of the rule. I should have clarified my previous statement.


as anyone here who has played D1 athletics on a full scholarship knows, athletes receive essentially a stipend in the form of "room and board money" already.

Good point. I was never a D-I athlete, but I was on full scholarship at tOSU. I got a pretty decent refund check at the start of each quarter, especially when I moved out of the dorms. Personally, I think the athletes should be allowed to work (under strict guidelines, of course) if they so choose. Working during your college years is about more than making money -- it also teaches you the value of it. As I said before, why aren't the boosters, who are obviously screwing up collegiate athletics for everyone, ever brought to justice?
 
2004-11-09 12:31:23 PM
One of the big reasons Tressel was brought in was to clean up the program from all the crap the Cooper was letting slide. The university knew they were under scrutiny then, especially for the football program.
Not that player 'perks' don't happen in any sports program across the nation, from high school on up. But when you come in and try to change the culture of an organization it takes time.
I'm willing to bet at the end of this everyone is looking out on high from this mountain of allegations and figure out they're actually standing on a molehill.
 
2004-11-09 12:32:10 PM
OK, I've had it. We have to have an Ohio tag. First they steal and election, now they're trying to steal Maurice's dignity!!

This is teh funny!!!!!lolol

If you're looking for athletes taking retardedly easy classes, remember the Jim Harrick basketball exam?
 
TV
2004-11-09 12:33:29 PM
nectar_of_the_goddess

I've always wondered why they don't do that too. But then again, trying to make sense out of the anything involving the NCAA rules commission is something of a challenge.
 
2004-11-09 12:34:30 PM
If you are a GM in the NFL, do you take him?
 
2004-11-09 12:34:40 PM
I worked two side jobs to put myself through college. If it wasn't for ramen noodles I would have starved. I've saved and earned several companies millions of dollars using the skills I earned in college.

My cousing worked two side jobs to put himself through college and medical school. He lived off of ramen noodle and "damaged goods" canned food. He saves a childs life nearly every day in surgery.

Clarett didn't have to work or study in college. He ate well and drove nice cars. Clarett can catch a football and run pretty well and someday might be seen on television doing that several times a year.

Screw Ohio and their football program.
 
2004-11-09 12:37:00 PM
....and this is new, like, HOW?

This stuff has been going on for decades with various colleges which is why we get various sports figures who haven't figured out how to talk right, can't handle their money, throw temper tantrums on and off the field, need a calculator to do basic math and charge $5 for an autograph.

This same stuff came up back in the late 70s only it included various colleges. Nice to know that they learned their lesson from those investigations, court cases and fines. (Sarcasm.)
 
2004-11-09 12:37:56 PM
thunderstormer

Actually, Clarett wasn't regarded as that high of a draft pick. Until they rejected his plea to enter the draft, he was expected to be 4th or 5th round pick. Guys like Chris Perry, Stephen Jackson, Kevin Jones were better NFL prospects than Clarett because they have the speed that Clarett doesn't. Adrian Peterson would have been a higher pick than Clarett coming out of high school.
 
TV
2004-11-09 12:38:38 PM
If you are a GM in the NFL, do you take him?

Hell no. Head cases seem to rarely last in the NFL, even when they're extremely talented. (see: Ricky, Lawrence Phillips, etc.)

/m2c
 
2004-11-09 12:39:34 PM
Let me attempt to foresee Clarett's NFL future (all predictions wrong or your money back)...

*Drafted on Day 2, I think round 5-6, by Oakland Raiders, the first and likely only team that will take a chance on him.
*Holds out asking for Day 1 money. Eventually settles for the money Oakland normally gives round 5 picks, but not before missing training camp.
*Barely makes team after a so-so preseason. Sustains bruised sternum after an intense matchup with New Orleans Saints.
*Drilled repeatedly throughout season by such defenses as the Ravens, Eagles, Patriots, Browns, Redskins and Cowboys. (I looked. They're on Oakland's schedule next season.)
*Retires after 2-3 seasons due to injury/ability. Nothing instantly career-ending, just a lot of really hard hits adding up. Ends up working in food service or playing in arena league.
 
2004-11-09 12:40:03 PM
thepan16

The Raiders will draft him.
 
2004-11-09 12:40:46 PM
Clarett didn't have to work or study in college. He ate well and drove nice cars. Clarett can catch a football and run pretty well and someday might be seen on television doing that several times a year.

Screw Ohio and their football program.


Um, dude, you do realize that "Ohio" is a completely different university than "Ohio State", right? :-)

And, as has been mentioned previously, our hands aren't the only ones that are dirty.
 
2004-11-09 12:44:34 PM
TBone3212

That's mainly because he was too young and he'd get eaten up by any defense. There are plenty of good RBs that aren't track stars. Look at Emmitt Smith - are you telling me that Clarett couldn't outrun him?
 
2004-11-09 12:45:45 PM
If you are a GM in the NFL, do you take him?


Nope. 2 reasons:

1) The kid hasn't seen elite football contact in almost 2 years. And the game the pro's play is light years beyond NCAA football. The talent gulf between NCAA and NFL is greater than the talent gulf between NCAA and high school. I don't know that stats, but surely someone knows the percentage of total NCAA players that appear, not just sign an NFL contract, in NFL games.


2) He had trouble staying healthy in his one NCAA season. Can you imagine what NFL players would do to him?
 
2004-11-09 12:49:56 PM
Thunderstormer

"Clarett will be a high draft pick"

they are projecting him as a fourth-round pick. Your chances of sticking with a team as a fourth-rounder are very slim if you have a questionable background. He'll have to absolutely wow them at the combines and in camp to make the league as a backup. And NFL contracts aren't guaranteed beyond the signing bonus. Fourth round picks (hell, second and third) don't get huge signing bonuses. Mr. Clarett will not become exceedingly wealthy until his second contract, which probably won't ever happen. He was a good back, but he needed a lot more experience. He could have been special with a bit more development, but the fact is, the dude ain't very fast. Three-yard backs like him are a dime a dozen and wear out quick. The dude should have went to class. Another lesson in greed.
 
2004-11-09 12:50:13 PM
2) He had trouble staying healthy in his one NCAA season. Can you imagine what NFL players would do to him?

Let me furtehr explain....He had trouble staying healthy in an 11 game season, and in that season, there were a few cupcake teams with 19 and 20 yr old kids, that maybe pushed 240 with subpar (i.e., didn't even get a sniff of the NFL) talent.

As compared to 16 games against Ray Lewis et al?

sheeeeyittt....
 
2004-11-09 12:50:14 PM
Hell. I already saw the movie.
 
2004-11-09 12:50:25 PM
rickythepenguin

So he hasn't taken a hit for 2 years. Big deal. He'll sign on with a team, sit for a season or two - maybe even not that much, and he'll be the starter.

There are players in the NFL that have come back from major injuries in college to have a productive NFL carrer... Willis McGahee comes to mind.
 
2004-11-09 12:51:24 PM
I been pwn3d!
 
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